I hope he brings Brian Norwood with him
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I hope he brings Brian Norwood with him
He just got hired at UCLA yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
So we just have newberry and Hughes as defensive coaches, right? Any word on how we plan to fill out def staff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'm sure Darcel McBath is coming. If Leach bring in his DL coach Jeff Phelps I'm not sure about that. That leaves one spot open and if it were me I'd hire Jeff Koonz for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
McBath is also coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Originally Posted by Jarius
Newberry took a couple guys with him from Kennesaw St to Navy, I know his DL and LB coaches for sure. Wouldn't shock me if he brought them along again, especially since I would imagine Leach will give him more autonomy on that side.
DC - Newberry
DL - Phelps
LB - ???
CB - McBath
S - Hughes
He mentioned that was something that was important to him in an interview I saw from the preseason. Having coaches that he was familiar with and having a working relationship with. With Norwood going to UCLA I suspect that we'll get our DL and LB coach from the Naval Academy as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
It won't be their DL coach. Phelps is coming to MSU also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I thought that was just a rumor? We'll almost certainly hire Navy's LB coach then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
No Phelps is already here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Not a fan of Phelps being brought from WSU. I'm on board with everything else.
I definitely have questions about him as a recruiter no doubt. As a coach he's actually very solid. I do understand the stench of the WSU defense from last year being on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I think Leach?s effort or lack thereof in recruiting is going to make or break him. He better find some guys that are going to recruit defensive talent
Assuming he is connecting with Key or trying to already, right? That is his first recruitQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Since when did Mike Leach give little effort in recruiting? I’m not sure where this falsehood started.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg
I think people have conflated the facts that he prioritizes coaching acumen in staff hiring decisions and targets specific player characteristics regardless of recruiting rankings with the idea he undervalues or short changes recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I think some of it is based off his reputation of spending a lot of time in Key West. Let?s not sugarcoat it, he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
If he wins, no one will care. If he loses, it will be a problem for most people here (myself included) who believe that to win at MSU you need to be recruiting to Starkville, from Starkville, 365 days a year.
Unless he's using some of that time in FL as a scouting trip. Hopefully he has enough contacts there to recruit FL talent to MSU. Especially when it comes to WRs and QBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Lol, he ain?t recruiting in Key West.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg205
You don?t scout Florida with Key West as your starting point.
Look, as long as he wins, this will be funny.
As for me like all of our other coaches I'll give him a chance to fail first before I complain. Just because his staff isn't a Mississippi All Star team it doesn't mean that his guys can't recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I think a lot of our fans are scarred by Dan and his country club too. I can't see Leach being a guy that has sacred cows like Dan though. I also find it hard to believe that he is worse at recruiting than Dan. I could be wrong because it's always possible. Over time I wouldn't be surprised if he actually ends up attracting more Southern coaches to his staff as guys like Nichols and Spurrier become head coaches somewhere else over the years.
I was talking about in between snorkeling and sunbathing.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Last time I was on Key West my phone worked just fine. As long as he's not making recruiting calls from Captain Tony's I thing we will be ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Mullen spent most of those offseasons at his lake house in GA.
Hell - I don't care if he is making calls from Captain Tony's. Leach has enough status that he can dial up a recruit and FaceTime them from anywhere and just say, "Steve says you're gonna give me 1100 YAC and 20 TDS in our offense. Youre that good. I'm out at Captain Tony's in Key West and I had to talk to you right now..." and it will be over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
That's how most of recruiting is done by a HC anyway.
Navy's defense against Memphis, Tulsa, and ECU... DC seems to scheme very well to make up for lack of talent. Also aggressive and discipline. Sorta reminds me of Grantham. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwED...ature=youtu.be
My rebuttal to the fans that are having visions of Dan bringing his guys in with Mike bringing his offensive guys in is this. How many of Dan’s guys have gone on to become head coaches? Now, how many of Mike’s guys over the years have gone on to become head coaches? There are currently 8 head coaches who either coached or played on Mike’s first staff/team at Texas Tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Anybody worrying about unnecessary bullshit like Leach living in Key West and his staff following him, is just a damn worrier and negative numb nut. Let the guy get rolling. We aren't dealing with Candy-assed, thin-skin, ass slapping, bullshit anymore. It's time to change that mindset with the fans too.
Amen to that. It's great that the guy loves him some Key West. Hell, my ass would be there every chance I could get if I were I that tax bracket. A bunch of of these folks are going to get their feelings hurt by this staff. This staff truly doesn't give a shit and are going to do things the way they see fit and damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Exactly! Leach is coming here to win not to just relax and cash a paycheck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We hired a proven coach. A coach with as much swagger and 17 you attitude as any we'll ever have. If you can't get behind this hire, you probably need to go cheer for USM.
**But I'm still not paying $75 for his damn book on Amazon.**
I'm fired up to see what our new DC can do with an elevated talent pool to work with.
Usually the guys that became head coaches under Dan were the DC's that he micromanaged.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Reminds me a lot of Jackie with his attitude and swagger. I like it a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Except one throws the ball 50 times and the other ran it 50 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I think we are about to enter an era where we have some Jackie type excitement. And yes, I wouldn't be shocked if we end up winning the West like Jackie at some point with Leach. Maybe even more because I have a feeling Leach won't have the loses to people like Troy and Tulane. If for no other reason our profile has been raised- thanks Jackie.
Yeah polar opposites on offensive philosophy lol! Very similar in a lot respects otherwise. Mavericks, don't give a crap what the rest of the football world thinks, speak their mind, etc. Very refreshing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This is his chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
He knows the magnitude of his legacy & potentially the College Football HOF rests on how he performs at MSU.
We're gonna get balls to the wall effort.
I think we may get a better effort than what he's ever given. He knew he couldn't recruit well enough to Lubbock or Pullman to win big, so why try all that hard?
He knows that is different here
I believe he recruited at least close to the ceiling of where he was relative to the team he was with at the time. If he keeps us at 25 or so and coaches players up he will do fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I think he will recruit better than Dan.