Shrader Out for Bowl Game

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12-26-2019, 08:06 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the rumor of the ark suspension for shrader is true, send him and gay on their way. It's time for the coaches to take control, and getting rid of 2 of your better players for BS would show players the coaches are taking charge. Again, if shrader was suspended for ark game for fighting.

I'd be more for both players having a come to Jesus moment and growing up.
12-26-2019, 08:06 AM
Maroonthirteen

Everyone is assuming Gay is playing because there has been no news. Moorhead isn't going to come out and say Gay is suspended. It will be game time before anyone knows.
12-26-2019, 08:06 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'm putting the majority of the blame on the guy that punched someone in the face and broke an orbital bone. Regardless of what Shrader did or didn't do, thats unacceptable behavior. Without that punch, this is a non-story. So yeah, I'm blaming the majority of this on Willie. To no do so would be in someway saying that breaking people's faces is somehow ok.

And what if shrader threw the first punch?
12-26-2019, 08:13 AM
Churchill

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

That's a hell of a note. Guy was one of the best QB's in North Carolina, if not the best, and this happens to him. He came to State because he and his family liked Moorhead. I'll bet he regrets signing with State and that he transfers. Can't say that I blame him if that is his decision.

If he was my son and wanted to pursue football as a career, I would be getting his ass out of this clusterf*** so fast it would make your head spin.

Edited to add: if anyone has some reasons he (or any other kid with a big upside) should stay...fire away
12-26-2019, 08:15 AM
hacker

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12-26-2019, 08:18 AM
BogeyGolfer

Good lord, I hope those of you...

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Originally Posted by jwells

Garrett Shrader will miss the bowl game against Louisville with an orbital fracture.

that wanted Joe back enjoy this shit-show... Regardless if Shrader misses the bowl game...Look, there is a lot bigger problem going on here than a fight after practice. It's the small things that lead to bigger issues and most of us realize this and wanted a change. The lack of effort, unpreparedness, pre-snap penalties and many other issues that we all witnessed is a culmination of poor leadership. A coach/leader must gain the respect install discipline and prepare a team to compete and maintain composure. This "fight" to me is an example of players not respecting the coach, the team, and even themselves...Especially if this happened after practice on the field. I understand that fights break out during practice that is a part of the game but not afterwards, this is a reflection of a bigger issue. I I will say this once again, the small things that a coach or leader doesn't do or instill will show itself in many ways and this is what we are witnessing...Good luck in 2020!
12-26-2019, 08:18 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And what if shrader threw the first punch?

I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting
12-26-2019, 08:20 AM
hacker

Love the first reply to that tweet too.

"But I was told he was basically on life support and Willie Gay had murdered him dead."
12-26-2019, 08:27 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by hacker

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Interesting. Did Paul really say shrader was out?
12-26-2019, 08:28 AM
hacker

So jwells posts some bullshit breaking news again. What else is new?
12-26-2019, 08:29 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting

Oh I'm not saying he did. I thought all we knew is they were in a fight.
12-26-2019, 08:30 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by hacker

So jwells posts some bullshit breaking news again. What else is new?

Todd said right below the OP that Paul confirmed. Is this true?
12-26-2019, 08:45 AM
Dawg2003

Yes, Paul said Shrader won't play.
12-26-2019, 08:50 AM
hacker

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Ok, back to meltdown mode. Carry on.
12-26-2019, 08:52 AM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by hacker

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Ok, back to meltdown mode. Carry on.

Him coming out to save face tells you all you need to know. Poor journalism.
12-26-2019, 08:54 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the rumor of the ark suspension for shrader is true, send him and gay on their way. It's time for the coaches to take control, and getting rid of 2 of your better players for BS would show players the coaches are taking charge. Again, if shrader was suspended for ark game for fighting.

What was the rumor? I think we should drop Gay simply because he has had chance after chance including surviving freaking Academic fraud on top of that. Time to cut bait and get rid of Gay. Why the hell would you punch someone in the face after the whole incident was already over to begin with? Who does that shit?
12-26-2019, 08:57 AM
Dawgfan77

I have told y?all earlier this is just one in a lineage of transgressions that have happened under SloMo watch. More will come out that will not paint joevester in positive light. When UL blows us out don?t discount some rumors hitting the street.
Things are bad people
12-26-2019, 08:57 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I have not heard that.

If true, that would be interesting

Sounds to me like Gay started it when he took a cheap shot on our QB after a play was over in practice to begin with.
12-26-2019, 08:58 AM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by BhamDawg205

That would mean Joe was wrong.... And we know Gurus always get it right. Joe's history has shown, he places more importance on how you look in practice vs live games.

When you are a baller, other players gravitate to you.
12-26-2019, 09:00 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

I have told y?all earlier this is just one in a lineage of transgressions that have happened under SloMo watch. More will come out that will not paint joevester in positive light. When UL blows us out don?t discount some rumors hitting the street.
Things are bad people

This is what happens when you don’t pay attention to the little things and run an undisciplined program. JoMo might be a good OC but as you can see by the continued success Franklin is having at PSU Franklin is a hellofa head coach.
12-26-2019, 09:02 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

What was the rumor? I think we should drop Gay simply because he has had chance after chance including surviving freaking Academic fraud on top of that. Time to cut bait and get rid of Gay. Why the hell would you punch someone in the face after the whole incident was already over to begin with? Who does that shit?

Rumor I read on SPS was shrader was suspended for ark game bc of fighting. I have no idea if true
12-26-2019, 09:02 AM
bully14

But Logan Lowry quotes Moorhead in today?s daily journal that Scrader will start with Stevens as backup. Says he has earned it.
12-26-2019, 09:04 AM
chef dixon

I just find it hilarious that Plastic Man has somehow again found a chance to get on the field for the last time.
12-26-2019, 09:13 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

I have told y?all earlier this is just one in a lineage of transgressions that have happened under SloMo watch. More will come out that will not paint joevester in positive light. When UL blows us out don?t discount some rumors hitting the street.
Things are bad people

This. I've been holding my tongue but I don't know how much longer I can. Its pitiful. Cohen should be held accountable to. We have some supremely dumbass boosters if they really support this type of coaching.
12-26-2019, 09:25 AM
Rex54

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We have some supremely dumbass boosters

All that needs to be said
12-26-2019, 09:29 AM
BankerDog

There is enough blame for both. Shrader was suspended twice in the preseason for missing team meetings. Was suspended i know of at least once this season for missing class and being late to practice for practice. It is bad when you are a SEC starting QB and the head coach has to fly your parents in for a sit down conversation during the season to see if this is what you wanna do. There are other rumors too, but I will not get into those at all.

Also, let?s not act like Dak never sent a poor kid to the hospital over Pita Pit one night when he broke that kid?s jaw. You guys saying this stuff did not happen under Mullen have no idea. It just never got out and why this got out is an even bigger problem.
12-26-2019, 09:33 AM
MedDawg

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

There is enough blame for both. Shrader was suspended twice in the preseason for missing team meetings. Was suspended i know of at least once this season for missing class and being late to practice for practice. It is bad when you are a SEC starting QB and the head coach has to fly your parents in for a sit down conversation during the season to see if this is what you wanna do. There are other rumors too, but I will not get into those at all.

Also, let?s not act like Dak never sent a poor kid to the hospital over Pita Pit one night when he broke that kid?s jaw.

Amd didn't Fitz get into a fight at a frat house?

It's like a QB tradition at State. OM, too--Bo Wallace, Chad Kelly, and Matt Corral.
12-26-2019, 09:38 AM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

So should Shrader for his choice of words. Once he used the racial slur and started fighting it's called a hate crime. Losing the fight doesn't make him a victim.

There was no racial slur. Stop making shit up
12-26-2019, 09:55 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

There was no racial slur. Stop making shit up

Ok, believe what you will.
12-26-2019, 09:55 AM
Rex54

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

There was no racial slur. Stop making shit up

Jussie Smollett is the norm in society now. See: Garrett, Myles.
12-26-2019, 10:03 AM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Ok, believe what you will.

I'll believe what I know.
12-26-2019, 10:06 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Rex54

Jussie Smollett is the norm in society now. See: Garrett, Myles.

Wow. This is where you're trying to take this?
12-26-2019, 10:07 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I'll believe what I know.

I trust the players words.
12-26-2019, 10:10 AM
HoopsDawg

Don't put all the blame on Willie just bc he hits hard. Shrader is just as much to blame even though he took the worst of it.
12-26-2019, 10:12 AM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I trust the players words.

The players that have told you the N word was used, did they tell you they heard the N word too or just that willie/others told them GS used the N word?

Important distinction bc if the racial slur stuff is true GS has to go. Will never command the locker room. If the racial slur stuff is not true, some people should be very ashamed of spreading a rumor that can ruin a persons life.
12-26-2019, 10:13 AM
TrapGame

My level of apathy refuses to let me give a shit.

If Louisville beats the shit outta us Joe needs to be fired. Napier's sitting at home enjoying his Christmas stocking goodies.
12-26-2019, 10:15 AM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I trust the players words.

If this is where we are heading with this then Jovester might as well be fired today and we can just start over
12-26-2019, 10:22 AM
StoneDawg

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

So should Shrader for his choice of words. Once he used the racial slur and started fighting it's called a hate crime. Losing the fight doesn't make him a victim.

No one on this board knows if he used the word. Y?all are taking a little bit of information and running with it. Everyone looked like an idiot after the egg bowl. Did no one learn their lesson.
12-26-2019, 10:27 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

If this is where we are heading with this then Jovester might as well be fired today and we can just start over

Truthfully, you can't blame a coach for this sort of action from a player. However, discipline is the name of the game. Both players should have the same consequences.
12-26-2019, 10:28 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by StoneDawg

No one on this board knows if he used the word. Y?all are taking a little bit of information and running with it. Everyone looked like an idiot after the egg bowl. Did no one learn their lesson.

He was gone. Even Moorhead thought he was gone. That's why he acted like an ass in the press conference.

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