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Those 2 classes as Jrs took MSU to #1 for 5 weeks (11 Final poll) and #19 in 2017. Joe's keeping us about where Mullen did so ... he gonna have to develop players about as good as Mullen did. I'm not confident he'll be able to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
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Originally Posted by confucius say
I agree with the premise, but Dan's 2011 class ended up being the best class in the history of his time here. He could find diamonds with the best of them. Some of that class was due to him getting his ass kicked and plan B kids working out though.
Sec ranks since 2012:Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
2012 - 9th
2013 - 10th
2014 - 12th
2015 - 8th
2016 - 11th
2017 - 9th
2018 - 9th
2019 - 11th
2020 - 10th
There isn't much difference. Hell, Moorhead's best class among peers is the one Mullen helped on. 2013-2016 Mullen squared up with OM's cheating peak, and he's basically matched Moorhead facing OM sitting on wallets for most part
So we feel good with Walker, Witherspoon, and 2 true freshmen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
For someone who works so hard at recruiting and loves it so much ... you'd think the results would be better. I'm betting this is another "once he has his QB" type deal or "Tommy better than Dak".Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's an average class IMO and he better work much harder than he currently is at developing them to come close to a 9 win season.
ETA: Plus we aren't getting at least half of the top tier in-state prospects near as I can tell. Other OOS schools coming into MS and taking what they want to.
Apparently so. Walker was a waste of a scholarship.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We should fix that now. Go get a transferQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
They always have and always will. Alot of kids in this state are not raised rooting for MSU. LSU and Alabama have just as much presence in some areas. He is recruiting about as well as possible at MSU. This is our peak it is what it is. We can strive to slowly climb. Moorhead's average player has been 87+ which is higher than the yearly average for Dan. Last year we were almost at 89 per player but we undersigned. Not really sure what you want from the guy getting guys likes Marks and Schrader are great pulls for us. He is not going to recruit well enough to develop poorly that will be where he makes or breaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I don't know. I heard Moorhead bragging on him at one of his press conferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Ha. Then he should start him next year and show us. We have greater needs at LB and OL as far as incoming recruits this year.
Or maybe a former 4 star that is getting rave reviews by our SEC rushing leader and head coach isn't a waste of scholarship and a random guy on a message board saying he is a waste doesn't have all of the info....Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm sure he's the next GOAT practice report guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Oh for sure. Ive long said that outside of the top 8-10 classes, it is pretty much a crap shoot between 11-40.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I'd say top 15. Clemson built their first natty with these class ranks: 11, 9, 16, 15Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Maybe so. I have no idea. Neither does the guy pretending he does know. He was an under armor all American in HS and went to Michigan. This isn't little Timmy from Scott Central we are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
In that case ... I'm looking for Joe to be cranking out 10 win seasons starting in 2 or 3 years. One right after another **Quote:
Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless
Add me too. I hope I'm wrong bc we need a guy to be ready day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
The good news is that Marks is supposedly going to get some bowl practice reps.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That is good newsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I think anything outside of top 10 better have a big time nfl qb. Like Watson. Or Dak for that matter. Elite qb can be a equalizer for a 10-15 recruiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I've got the same info he has. Take it for what it's worth.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Which means that either Moorhead or your source is not telling the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Just wait til spring and we will start to see which way Joe leans with Walker. One thing is for sure so far in that he has really gone to great lengths to make sure "his" guys play. I can only assume that he plans on having Walker log some major PT, if not then I'll chalk it up to JoMO being a guru again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
There was a reason that Ohio State dropped Walker and he ended up in Michigan. Same reason why he left Michigan. Same reason he was delayed in getting here. Hope we hired a babysitter for him.
nope, not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Nobody knows... especially someone that is compelled to comment on every thread, and post 25-50 times a day. For the others, it's almost like a vendetta against the kid. Hoops/Home (who can tell em apart?) is the first to rip him whenever his name is mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Getting him into school was a minor miracle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
I'm betting what we're gonna see is ... Guidry part Deaux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
According to our folks we've signed 16 4 or 5 stars in Moorhead's 3 years.
That's apparently the most over any 3 year span since 2000 when recruiting rankings really started becoming a thing for 24/7
The guy has failed on the field and classroom. He's got one season left. He's not all of a sudden going to be good. Couldn't even start for his Juco team. Still isn't even eligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
We took him after we missed on absolutely everyone. We only had two RBs this year, plus a FR that was also a reach (but has shown flashes).
Damn some of y’all amaze me. We don’t just shit on a coach but players anytime possible but yet claim to be fans.
Maybe so. He was at one time a 5 star and #1 tailback in the nation. He has had issues for sure. Talent has never been one of his issues though. You will have to forgive me for not taking people with "sources" word on here after the past month. Our starting tailback bringing up how good he is unprompted gives me a little bit of hope that the light bulb will come home. I can't say that I expect it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Forced on the field while better players sit? Very possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Well he will be eligible next barring him not doing what he is supposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Well, he was a 5 star RB. You know, recruiting rankings and all being the topic of discussion here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
3* when we signed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Hell let’s kick him off the team. He definitely sucks because we know from several he does
Anyone who has EVER been rated a 5 star as HS recruit doesn't lack for talent. Whether we can get that talent out of him certainly remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I suppose so, but he was .9505 (4-star), not 5*.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
In this case, based on his record vs mine, I'd say it's him who's false....Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
Well, I know he was at one time the #1 rated RB in his class. So whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7