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100% agreed. Jpe being here next year 1) guarantees the program slips into deeper hole for the next guy to climb out of, 2)guarantees we win less games, and 3) makes an EB loss far more likely. All for 1 EB win in a year where it doesn't even matter if OM won because there is no bowl game for them regardless? Not with it. Rip the bandaid off and lose tonight, we'd all be talking about Napier right now with hope for the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Don't know if it's being emotionally unstable or just being too unprofessional. That was pretty obvious when he dragged out the story about his daughter being upset hearing about her Father being a crappy coach after the TN game. Just no reason for a high level professional coach to go there as a play for sympathy I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
FSU is bowl eligible after firing their coach in his second yearQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I said it earlier today and all I got was “Wanna bet?”. We ain’t firing him at 6-6. It ain’t happening, and it sounds like he ain’t resigning. Now, maybe Rutgers will save the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Boys this is gonna get ugly
Yeah he really came off more of an ass than anything in that presser. Lists off all the excuses for this year, and then says that the team he inherited last year wasnt the 85 Bears? What the hell did you think they were then when you were promising Heismans and every championship there was??? Also, he was obviously aware of the rumours going around but when the reporter asked he pretended like he had no idea what he was talking about. One big enigma. Also, I think him bringing up the late 90's team was a subtle way of saying we havent really been shit since then.
I didnt think he would resign after the game, but I damn sure didnt think he'd confront all these rumors the way he did either. Did we get conned by the Athletic Department into making Jomo think he was coaching for his job or some crazy shit who knows but at this point nothing would surprise me.
Devil’s advocate. If I was in his shoes I would do the same thing.
When Mullen’s left, C34 told us before the egg bowl. Nobody believed him. Then nothing happened for a few days and people raked him over the coals. Then a day later it was out everywhere that Mullen accepted the Florida job AFTER accepting the Tennessee job. I’m not gonna get my emotions up either way. This ain’t over yet. I’m gonna enjoy this win!!!! 17 the ole pissers.
This is what I keep saying. I would be freaking pissed and defensive too if I had been through the ringer like him. He's had a rough year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That asshat was a couple of FBombs away from sounding like that Kansas JUCO idiot. We don't need a guy like this representing MSU. You got lucky to beat a 4-7 team there Joe - that's why we don't like you. That presser just lost you more support.
Yeah bc saying I'm gonna stay your coach, but f you state fans is a great way to play thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Look. Fans are the ones that have constantly shit on him. He's a man. Stuff gets to you. Did he take it a tad far? Maybe. But I can understand it. Like it said. If you were trying to prepare to do your job and everyone around you kept talking about who was going to replace you while you were doing your job, you might be pissed too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'll say this. I'm not going to judge the man because I've never walked in his shoes. So I can at least have empathy for him. Folks on here kept saying "well he makes a lot of money" and "he should understand that's part of the job". Screw that. Dude is a human being. Crap we say and others say around him affects people.
Good for him for getting the win. He's had a shit year and he and the team deserve and needed that win. Glad they got it.
The fact that he lets it get to him and addresses the fans that way shows that he isn?t the msn for the job. You think Mullen ever addressed any of his criticism? He is so delusional and a nut job that hates the Mississippi state fan base. Screw him. Instead of just saying I?m not worried about any of that we just won a game he tore off in to the fan base again. Screw him. You went 8-5 with the best defense in school history, 1000 yard rusher, and 2nd best qb in our history looking like dog shit on offense. You follow that up with your boy after blaming it on fitz last year and fan expectations, and you look even worse this year and blame it on plastic man for getting hurt. Good grief. Fire this man already. I?ve never wanted someone fired so bad after being bowl eligible
How confident are you in this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
If he’s not fired, then we do not have the leadership in the athletic department that we need.
If I'm being paid multi millions of dollars I would care less. Maybe pissed a little but not enough to get out of character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Can you explain what the amount of money you make has to do with emotion? Or at what amount of money that starts to become something you can't do?Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Is that the unwritten rule of making a lot of money? You can't be emotional and take offense or be a little upset if you make a lot of money?
I don't think he got out of character. I think he showed his true character.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Dear God. Y?all just stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
MetEdDawg - Agree 100%. Great post. It's football folks, let's keep a little perspective. Fire or not fire, whatever, it's time to move the program forward aGain. Leadership is making the hard decisions.
This coupled with the “mean rednecks said I’m a bad coach in front of muh kid” bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Not gonna lie, his press conference just made me respect the shit out of him. Guess I'm in the minority on that. I guess we'll see what happens.
"Y'all want me to quit, but **** that, this is my team"
I respect that.
Say what you want about him, but if he’s going down, he’s going down swinging and not cowering to the critics. And look, the criticism is mostly deserved. He has definitely underwhelmed through two years. But the rumors have been nothing but a potential distraction before a huge game for him and his team, and I think it’s totally fair for him to be pissed off about them. Especially if they end up being unfounded like he appears to genuinely believe. And I think it’s very obvious he WANTS to be here and WANTS to succeed, so that should squash any logic that says he wants out.
You?re okay with mediocrity? You want o be like Kentucky? Go to a bowl but don?t beat a good team all year? My god, we haven?t been competitive all year..... but everyone thinks we?re going to the playoffs because we beat a 4 win OM team.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
WooHoo ... we good!!Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
glad stevens was out ot joe would have lost and I thought it looked like 2 junior high teams most of the game. this is a total mess
If you had more of buyout that kicked in paying you even more millions I would still do the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yea that?s what everybody is doing. Whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Own it. You don?t like his comments because it stings your ass.
Comments like yours prove you cannot take the very thing you dish out.
Just watched the presser. Joe said he ain?t going no where. His team his school ?see you at the bowl game?. Wow. If rumors are true gonna get real in the coming days.
Meh, if I were Cohen I’d make it real difficult for him to stay like OM did with Cutcliff. There definitely needs to be some staff changed and I’d make him hire a real OC. I also wouldn’t extend him and make year 3 the hot hot seat. It’s hard to fire someone after going to 2 straight bowl seasons and two wins over OM even though OM had more to do with that loss then we did winning that game.
It's been his team. Is he just realizing that?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Jo is a good guy and wants to be a good coach at State. That means he’s got to be willing to toss his offense and make the staff changes required if he’s going to stay. His play calling was horrendous at times last night. The offense isn’t working.
If he refuses, show him the door. He basically put himself in a position last night to where he’s got to prove he can run this program. Unwillingness to do so should result in termination after that speech.
Or they were inaccurate. It happens. Trust me, egos are too large around here for it to die over a bravado filled rumor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloak
AJ Brown commitment comes to mind.
We hired him for his offense. If you asking him to scrap his offense, you might as well scrap him. If we were gonna fire him after a loss last night, use his F you to the fans speech last night as the reason to let him go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
[i don?t understand how more of you are not mad about the way that PC went. He just told all of us that don?t believe in him anymore to go kick rocks. Like its our fault for not believing in him? Hes the guy that has failed. He doesnt even realize that hes failed- he thinks he has done as good as we could do. Thats not good when we are the ones paying the man (not the players).
Certainly people get things wrong, but you do realize you went back 4 years on AJ? If that's all you could come up with, the "insiders" must be doing pretty well. With that said, after all the "done deal" talk yesterday, the insiders here should be trashed hard if Moorhead is back...Quote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
I sorta think that speech is the speech of a man that knows he's headed out and shot double birds to us (fanbase).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
This is correct - I don’t understand why there is even an option to keep him after that crap. It’s one thing to stand up for your job but he has yet to take any of the blame for our failures. He put it squarely on the excuses and me and you can go kick rocks 7. I guess he doesn’t need my money and support.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You sure have a vivid imagination and lack reading comprehension. I respect his reaction to all the pitchforks trying to run him out of town. Y'all were saying he lacked emotion and "needs a fire in his belly" not too long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog