If he’s the guy I want him to bring his entire staff. We need continuity.
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If he’s the guy I want him to bring his entire staff. We need continuity.
Amen to this! This is to often overlooked . Continuity is huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Disagree. A good coach knows who he wants on his staff. We can afford better coaches than he’s got. OC/DC are huge hires in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
If it?s working for the guy well enough to land the next bigger gig, why not let the guy bring his guys he?s comfortable with, guy that understand his philosophy and not hire the next two mercs that will leave for the next bigger check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Because nobody hires an entire G5 staff. Money matters. You go get the best money can buy. ULL can’t get the coaches we can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I like him, he is a good guy, he’s very good friends with my cousin. But if the head guy likes him as a coach can he be worse than Sirmon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Worse take ever. Hughes is a f'n liability as a coach. Sure, dude can recruit. But as an actual coach he blows bovines. An off the field recruiting position is perfect for him. Getsy was a helluva coach. You don't get hired to coach Aaron Rodgers if you aren't good. That's one of the reasons I want Norvell. He's had 6 assistants hired away to be head coaches. Dude is great at spotting coaching talent and improving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
His S&C coach looks good. Bring him for sure. I would want to keep Hughes obviously. And maybe Tbuck and Johnson for their MS ties and recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Napier will certainly get buy-in from the team when he makes them open up their wallets.***
https://www.usatoday.com/amp/2034293001
Yeah don't love that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Bring his OC... He's also the OL coach. This is important for blocking schemes and techniques. Plus he's coached in the SEC, blue blood staff to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
The 2nd part of that is not true. On edge yes but uncomfortable, no. This aint a video game dude you are dealing with real people and some of them will tell you to piss off or quit on you. You cant coach every kid the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That said, Moorhead is a hell of an interviewer. A lot of guys are, then they are exposed between the white lines. I'll pass on the great interview guys. Napier would be a good hire on paper but it isnt a home run. More like a double at best. I would be ok with it, it makes sense and he would be a good fit.
As he was the bubble screen king. Maybe he's learned a lot since then, but State could do better.
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Napier is middle of the pack for me. But he’s the same coaching tree as Norvell (somewhat).
I am not saying Napier is the end all be all but he is a damn good HC. If rather trust my future to a proven HC than another assistant coach. I guess we could try and hire Kevin Wilson from OSU.
Napier night be good at recruiting Louisiana guys but all the top hs players go to LSU there. He's young yes but with that you worry more about leaving if having success. Just some points to consider
We actually discussed this in this thread. He was 29. That was 11 years ago. I hope he's learned a lot since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
Do you not realize how insane that is?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
It's not if we aren't willing to pony up the money to keep him if successful. I'd rather get a guy like Grantham that would stay. However I'd much rather have a young guy that is successful and can relate to the younger guys. Nothing makes me more mad than watching Moorhead sit there while we get flagged for touching an opposing player and then we get tackled going for a ball and no flag. I'm all for young and energetic but we can't let the next guy come in and job search every off season. Like I said, something to consider. I don't know where we are as a program especially after Cohen was going to give us a big hire and we ended up with Lemonis be (not a shot at lemonis).Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I'm 95% sure that if he comes here he will keep Hughes on staff and about 100% sure he'll bring Looney with him. I think it's highly possible that he keeps T-Buck and possibly promotes Peterson to an on the field role.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
He's a HC who also coaches the QB's- so that sort of eliminates Breiner's position coach role which would probably go to Looney assuming that Rob Sale comes in as OC/OL coach meaning the Looney could be the assistany OL coach and possibly also coach TE's allowing us to move Hughes wherever we need him. His RB and DL coach are both legit and probably could recruit anywhere. His ST coach also helps with LB's which means he probably helps their DC with position coaching. If his WR coach stays in Louisiana where he is from and is also the RC we could very easily slide Peterson in at WR coach/recruiting coordinator.
I’d be all for Napier for HC. Runs a system we’d be able to recruit to really well. Sign me up for him. Or Norvell. Either of them honestly. I’m just tired of Joe. Period. I was as optimistic and patient as I could be for as long as I could be. KSU/UT did it for me and now I’m just ready to get someone new in here so we can take advantage of all the talent we will have on our team in 2021 instead of letting Joe wreck that and underachieve by 2-3 games.
Sounds like you have it figured out. Just need to make sure Cohen pays these guys and doesn't wait until season end to extend them before they get poached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
If there is anything Cohen did right it was offering Dan an extension after the Texas A&M game in 2017. Once Dan turned it down, Cohen basically knew to start looking and as a result our coaching search was short. So I think Cohen would do that in the right situation. Joe hasn't given Cohen a reason to offer an extension during the season so far obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
Yeah that's why I'm weary if the price of our but out. I understand extending a contract for many reasons if you're not ready to fire but if you go that route, you make sure you can get out the next year with easy. Look how fast we got away from Croom. I just can't see the guy out actually costing us 9 million. We'll likely see soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I would hope Cohen didn't just believe what Moorhead was selling. I personally was giving Moorhead the benefit of the doubt but I don't think I would have just gave him a crapload of money after last year's disappointing season. He was at the floor of what I expected last year and he has to win 2 games to get to the floor of my expectations this year. Realistically, our floor with this schedule should have been 7 games but winning on the road is never easy. A good coach would have won KSU, UT, and maybe A&M.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
You want to throw some heat on this... ULL is an Addias school. Howland was a three stripe life guy. Don?t think this wouldn?t play into it. Also can we shut up about the 9 mm. That number is based on the total contact. We are not in the hook for 3 year contract.
He'll I'd take a screen right now... We've probably thrown 5 bubble screens all year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
Correct, it is at worst 3MM per year for the next 3 years. If you do that then the coach has to sit at home and watch his career slowly drift away. You either negotiate it down, spread it over more years, or at least be offset by whatever they are making at the next school. Even if he takes an OC job, MSU saves at least another $250K at a minimum. It will be interesting to see what comes of the Ark lawsuit vs Bert. The Patriots are paying him below NFL minimum wage for an on the field coach so it could be that maybe the settlement is that you take the $3MM - market value of the position which would be $500k- 1 MM for an OC in a P5 conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
You really have no clue about Tony Hughes. He will have a job here no matter who our coach is unless we hire a complete idiot. He is the best recruiter Mississippi has ever seen and he is a very good defensive backs coach (yes I know he is currently coaching tight ends).
Yeah, I just ignored him. Reporters asked Mullen if he had any advice for Moorhead when Moorhead took the job, Mullen said, "hire Tony Hughes".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Billy Napier would be my #1 realistic choice, followed by Norvell. I think those 2 would do exceptionally well at State.
I have known Tony since I was in diapers. He is an outstanding man and coach. You get him in a room with momma and it’s lights out, all other things being equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
That one was not handled from within the athletic department. The only part of hiring Howland that the athletic department played in the process was to arrange the presser and stand there and smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
I aware. Addis?s helped put the deal togetherQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
yepQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Bo Bounds seems to think we are going Napier first. His choice would be Lashley at SMU but thinks we are going G5 head coach this time around. Said if he had to guess the next HC for us would be Billy Napier.
Also, he thinks om beats the shit outta of us in the EB.
If OM beating us gets us a new coach, then I'm all for it. Worked in 2008 and will work again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Bo advocating for Lashley is ridiculous. He's not qualified
I will never pull for us to lose the Egg Bowl.
I damn sure will if it's better for the programQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
If we have someone hiring or firing a coach based on one game then we have leadership problems that involve a lack of critical thinking skills. Losing to them is not good. He should be fired regardless of the outcome of that game.