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It's the Ole Miss vs State rivalry and itis a home. Bottom line. You watched that LSU game and said damn ole miss is good. I watched it and say LSU just did not take them as seriously as they did Miss State and got caught napping.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
I watched every game they've played -- and every game we've played -- and I'm telling you right now, we will be a rightful moderate underdog in the game. If it was happening today, it would be 7-10 points. We haven't won against that spread in 58 games under Mullen.
LSU was playing their 4th straight tough game with 3 of them on the road- Georgia, State, Florida, and then Ole Miss. They just didnt bring the energy early.
UM plays lsu well every year and gets up for them. We are bitching about winning a game that we played poorly in. Everyone wants to talk about Direction all of the time but direction changes weekly and certainly yearly in college football. Mullen is not even being considered being fired by anyone but emotional mouth breathing thirty year olds. He needs to improve as a game manager but he has recruited better than he is given credit for. He recruited Dak but needs to recruit mor OL's.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
We may finish well or poorly this year, who knows, but he ain't on any real hot seat til next year and it's gonna be a full year with his kind of QB.
I hope I'm wrong but he is Stains 2.0. He has hit his ceiling. You remove him and Hevesy and our recruiting will get better. I haven't heard one person come up with a "Dan may be a shitty game coach (which he is) but at least we get the players under him" comment like at least Stains got. And the same argument holds true...it doesn't matter if you can recruit well if you and your staff suck at coaching. You will beat the cupcakes and lose to any team with a pulse.
We don't need just good enough on the sidelines we need somebody that can ****ing coach. Even if we make another bowl I want him out because we could be much better at recruiting and more importantly light years better at actual coaching (which makes recruiting better in and of itself). This whole let's see what he does with next yrs players and schedule is the same path we went down with Stains and we see what that dumpster fire ended up like. Fire him.
Exactly what is going to happen. The good news is Mullen would have to leave under this scenario... We still wouldn't fire him even after this.
Win 5 this year and get blown out by OM when we should have won 7 -- keep Mullen -- put up a shit recruiting class -- bring him back to win 6 next year when we should have won 9 for the 3rd straight OM blowout on the road -- for another shit recruiting class -- and you are damn right I'm pissed -- and will probably stop coming to message boards during football -- because I'll be an insufferable MF.[/QUOTE]
Faith is the opposite of fear. No faith means fear. Only one thing to fear, The Lord as it brings understanding & knowledge. Keep your fear, I'll keep my faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
No. I watched the OM/LSU game and saw LSU play as bad as they could possibly play. Miles was an idiot and Mett was horrible. However, I saw Bo Wallace look as good as he ever has and I saw them play with relentless effort without some very key starters. If we were without Autry, Chris Jones, and PJ Jones, we wouldn't stand a chance against anybody. That's basically what the ole miss D line looked like that night. LSU should have stomped them since they had so many people out but Freeze prepared them and they played like I wish we would play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I also saw ole miss play Vandy, Texas, and aTm. They are a better football team right now. They are competing with the LSU's and aTm's of the SEC. We are competing with Kentucky and.....well, Kentucky. It makes me sick!! I ****in HATE ole miss. I wish the school would get sucked into a sink hole.
You're right dude. No objective person looks at us and ole miss right now and thinks we're even.
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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
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Originally Posted by Coach 57
Actually, no faith is the opposite of faith. Your soundbite sounds good, but it's simply not true.
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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I agree. I was around back in the day too. While I get frustrated losing most of the SEC games, I remember losing them all....OOC too!
While we have separated ourselves from our former CUSA rivals, the top of the SEC has separated itself from the bottom of the SEC. Mullen has done a good job.
Also people wanting to fire coaches on a weekly basis, need to remember how long it took Alabama after Stallings to get to Saban....UT is still not where they were under Fulmer. UF followed Spurrier with Zook....Zook!!!!! Maybe we get lucky and land HUD but we need to appreciate the one that brought us this far. If we get to 6 wins, that is good season for MSU....history says.
We're doomed. We're gonna beat 4 panzies, Kentucky and vandy and our fan base response is "good job"?
If that is the case then yeah keep Mullen... Haha . He'll , sign him up for a lifetime contract. All fans who want more... Start following someone else.
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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
That attitude from some of our fans literally makes me sick.
History is just that..history. The people that hold on to this way of thinking are the people that hold our program back. That group of people suck ass. Please leave. It's a damn sad sack, we are little ole MState way of thinking that kills our school. I'm damn sure glad Cohen doesn't think that way. You people need to get on that thinking bandwagon and get off the woe is me apathetic shit. Piss the hell off. Go root for your local junior college and get the F out of here. You people make me sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
And Ole Miss was gonna beat Auburn by 2 TD's tooQuote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
We don't have to be even with them to beat them in Sville. Venue is worth 2 TD's in this rivalry
And ole miss had no shot at beating Texas...we've all been wrong.
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Originally Posted by Coach34
So next year is an automatic L with Bama, LSU, a&m. We will have to upset Aub to get to 7 wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Wont be much of an upset for us to beat Auburn at home- Why would A&M be an auto-loss? They lose Manziel and the best WR in the countryQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Don't they recruit like Bama and LSU? What makes you think we can beat them? Malzahn has a guy that was a DB at UGA and has lost one game. Why would they not improve?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Getting DOMINATED in the 2nd half doesn't lead to wins over good teams. I hope like hell Mullen figures it out but I am tired of coming out the 2nd half and praying we can hold on to a win.
People overlook the VASTLY different money situation today. The gap between the haves and have nots is wider than it's ever been -- and for the first time in our history -- we're on the side of the haves -- and we are there permanently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
The days of SEC teams losing OOC games to non-"big 5" teams is basically over and done with. It'll still happen once every 20 games or so -- but it should hardly ever define keeping or firing a coach...
Bingo. We can't collectively see the forest for the trees. Auburn is starting and playing true freshmen at 3 of the 4 DL spots, among others. This year was our best opportunity to beat Malzahn with Ellis Johnson. They don't have the personnel in place yet across the board -- but next year they will be alot closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
AgreedQuote:
Getting DOMINATED in the 2nd half doesn't lead to wins over good teams. I hope like hell Mullen figures it out but I am tired of coming out the 2nd half and praying we can hold on to a win.
I'm going under the premise that our team, with 16 starters returning and alot of depth, will be much better in 2014Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
That'sone reason we are playing so many young players this year- to get them ready for next year
Again, we'll probably have no shot in our road SEC games except against Kentucky. Then I have serious doubts Mullen will beat Malzahn or Sumlin at home. Probably a 7-5 season and another "hey, just wait til Dakota's senior year. Then we will finally be good enough to stay within 2 touchdowns of a good team."
We have been outscored by BG and UK in the 2nd half. How are we going to improve to the point to beat UM, A&M, and Aub?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
So, a couple fewer than Auburn then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They bring back 11 starters on offense (if they line up with a halfback, that starter is gone -- so 10 in that case). They bring back between 6-9 starters on defense(Daniel, Adams, and Lawson not officially listed as starters, but exactly like Chris Jones, they damn sure play most of the snaps). They basically only lose a CB and SS as consistent "starters" on their ENTIRE TEAM.
By continuing to outscore them enough in the 1st halfQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
ok- it took them until the last second to beat us on their field. Next year will be our turnQuote:
Originally Posted by engie
Better hope it isn't a fg to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
That was week 3 coach. they would beat us by 2 touchdowns if we played this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Since when is 7-5 not a good season at MSU? Do you expect us to average 9-10 wins per year? If so, I would like a detailed explanation of why that is reasonable?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
I've said it before, I expect us to be in a bowl game year in and year out. Once we establish that as a baseline, then and only then, should we start getting pissed off for not winning 8-10 games every year. I do understand the frustrations and I also want to feel that we are more competitive than it feels we have been lately. But I am willing to see how it plays out this year and next.
Not the way Dak is improving every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Yes, anyone can see UMiss is playing better RIGHT NOW, but the huge middle pack in SEC ebbs and flows from week to week. And Coach is right about HFA. Ole MIss is little better than us as a whole but the HFA may be the difference. Quit giving them the Egg in October.
The fans aren't giving them shit. Our coach and his lack of give a damn is what will give them the Egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogBear
that's a huge load of bullshit. Just because you make something up doesnt make it true. Dak would give them hell right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
I haven't read whole thread but how in the hell do you think this will happen after what you saw Thursday night and frankly all year. Take the maroon glasses offQuote:
Originally Posted by FlabLoser
Not saying he's right or wrong, but considering they are getting better every week, while we are getting worse....it's not a huge stretch to say thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
we will be prepared for the egg bowl.
UM will load the box. Their DBS held LSU in check, what do you think they will do with our wrs. We have like 3 TDS this year in the 2nd half, do you think Dak can out score them by just scoring in the 1st half. Fgs are a roll of the dice all the time.
LSU played their worst game in years. We will play with our hair on fire.
It's one game- stop looking at everything in a vaccuum. Why dont people load the box against us in the 1st half if that is all it takes? It's much more involved than just loading the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Hell, Nick Marshall ran for 140 on them- does that mean Dakota will run for 175 against them?