That has nothing to do with the owners wanting to save money. Which they have wanted to do since baseball started- and why Stewart is going to Japan on the first place. That will probably never change either.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
That has nothing to do with the owners wanting to save money. Which they have wanted to do since baseball started- and why Stewart is going to Japan on the first place. That will probably never change either.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
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Originally Posted by maroonmania
I believe the deadline is July 12. Not sure if that was an error or what.
Well shit. Don't go advertising it. Maybe we can get a reverse Dee Bost situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Is he only an outfielder or can he play other positions? Too bad we aren't like Vandy, they could get him to turn down the money and walk on.
If he was committed to Vandy he would've already announced he was attending school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Allen must have a good arm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Good point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Outfielder only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Good enough. If Tarver came to school it would be between him and Cumbest for right field if I had to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
It looks like the Padres won't have any slot money left to sign Tarver, meaning they will only be able to give him the $125,000. Which isn't bad, certainly, but if he's waiting to see if they could do more, that may bode well for us.
Well maybe Lemonis and Jake have some recruiting to do. We definitely have an open spot in the outfield for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I would encourage my kid to go to Ms State for anything less than 250K, but I don't know his situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
With $125K, that is basically like making $30,000 to $40,000 for the next 3 years. After that if you aren't in MLB then you are hopefully at least in AAA where you are making more than minimum wage. No matter what, I hope all these guys at least get their tuition paid by whatever team they sign with. At this point though unless you are a high round pick, you have a better shot making MLB by going to college.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Basically it's just going to come down to whether or not he is just trying to get as much as he can or not. If the Padres think he will be an easy sign they'll just give him table scraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Anyone who signs for 125K as a HS SR, barring being from a family who is destitute, never had any intentions of stepping foot on a college campus. You don't get but a portion of that after taxes and you will make total chump change in the minors for quite a few years to come even if you are fortunate enough to eventually make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Exactly. I'm just wondering if that is indeed the case here- which wouldn't surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Well, less than 72 hours to the signing deadline and haven't heard one way or the other what Tarver plans to do.
24 hrs. out.....anybody got an update on Tarver?
How abnormal is it for there to be such radio silence regarding a recruit?
Ya’ll should follow MSbaseballfan on facebook. He does a pretty good job with recruiting news, especially considering that it is free.
Anyway, he says that the word is that Tarver will go juco if he doesn’t sign a contract.
He’s either going pro or Juco. He’s not coming to State.
Well that sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Why recruit him then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Good question. He's a 15th round draft pick for pete's sake. At least Carter Stewart made sense in the fact that he was a first round pick who the Braves wouldn't give first round money. If Tarver is that dead set against spending 3 years in college he might as well take the $125K now rather than wasting a year at a JUCO gambling that he might be able to move up. Heck, he might get injured or he might have a less than stellar year and drop further. He certainly won't get the coaching or training program at a JUCO he would get at MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
exactly. Either sign now, or go to MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
This is all true.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
I think what happens to some players especially guys like a Tarver they get it in their head that they are going pro but the reality is they aren't as valued by MLB as much as they think they are sometimes. So they fall into the trap of trying to get back into the draft as soon as possible and it rarely works out.
I guess for most guys that need more time to develop three years is probably what they need in most cases than just one. It seems more often than not the guys that go the one year JUCO route end up being drafted lower than the year before.
That makes sense as it seems like a tie/lose situation. If he goes to Juco and tears it up for a year, so what. The scouts basically have no new information. Yes, it's a good sign that he doesn't see a drop off moving from high school to Juco pitching, but that's still not in the same ballpark as what they will see in the pros, so I'm not sure it makes it much more likely that they will be able to hit at higher levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Kids today are dumbasses.
In my opinion you see more higher end quality arms in high school than you do in JUCO. Most of the best draft prospects are either in college or high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
I would guess that this is accurate for almost all Jucos. You have a few that get high quality arms like Chipola that have guys but you wouldn't see that type of pitching but a handful of times. This is probably one of reasons that guys don't typically increase their draft stock because they are essentially playing down to competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah, the juco route makes no sense to me unless the only reason for the draft drop was injury and it's just a matter of proving your are healthy for a season.
Well, all indications are he didn't sign. Guess he can start lining up his JUCO. What a waste.
What a major dumbass if he goes to JUCO! D U M B A S S!Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania