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Ahh.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Damn that 2011 season was a disappointment
(Whistling The Who) Tommy can you hear me?... Tommy can you see me?...
Are juniors usually voted team captains?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Mmmm yeah. Bizzaro Nick Fitz but I?ll take it.
https://youtu.be/RCHA-f58m4s
Here is some game film. He big. He is white. He is from the big ten. Can Brandon walker give us a break down of his foot speed? I?ll hang up and listen.
Is he gonna play WR for us? Are we about to have two QBs that roll out as WRs as well? 25% of that highlight video is Stevens catching passes as a receiver.
At least he caught em... sorry, key**Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The other 74% is him running. However the 2017 spring game highlights has some nice throws from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Same reason the players were liking and retweeting tweets that Fitz should be benched for KT — particularly after LSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
So what you are saying is Dan underachieved with a bunch of draft picks too - including a once in a generation QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Once this draft is over, the comparison will look much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Your generational qb is who he is in large part to Dan Mullen
ETA... what irks me the most about the Moorhead is awesome group is you always have to throw a "but Mullen" in there. I was very critical at times of Mullen, but blaming him for every damn thing has pushed me to the side of wanting to defend him.
ETA x2... and the very ones that are ripping Mullen now were taking up for him when he was here. That tells me a lot of your group don't look at things with clear eyes. Whoever the coach at state is is the god of the day.
I don't deny that - and yes, a big reason Dak is Dak is Dan. I've never denied Dan is a very good coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yes, we had 3 first round picks. We may have 6-7 picked (but I'd say it could be as low as 5). Stack those 3 1st round guy with the 4 picked last year and the 3-5 more that could still go this year and the '17 team is even more loaded then this year. So where was the outcry of "Dan wasted all that talent!" Same with '10 and '12 squads.
ETA : response to your ETA - I'm not blaming Dan. I'm saying we are holding Joe to a standard we didn't seem to hold Dan to just because of where 3 guys happen to be picked in the draft.
Dan left the job unfinished. I'm convinced had he stayed we only lose to maybe BamaQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
One player doesn't equate to a locker room. Hill isn't even the team leader. However, he would be favorable to a coach that made him a starter when he wasn't ready or earned it over a team favorite senior In Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach007
I?m a Penn State fan and have been watching Stevens for 3 years. He?s plenty fast enough, probably faster than Fitz. If not straight line faster, he?s more nimble than Fitz. I don?t think he?s as strong as Fitz and probably not as durable as Fitz because few are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
He has more touch on passes and puts more air under long passes. Seems to be more accurate, but there really are not enough attempts to know for sure. He probably wouldn?t be as good as Fitz in a Mullen offense but should be better in Moorehead?s.
I want him.
Its as simple as this. Moorhead has seen both and has practiced and played with both extensively. If he takes Stevens its bc he believes he is better than what we currently have. Even the JoMo sucks crowd can surely understand this
We can probably win one, perhaps two more games with Stevens. But if we don't go this route and Key is the guy, I'm not going to bitch until he fails during the season. I'm not convinced the Key can't get it done yet.
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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I'm sure some will be upset because they want to see him fail because he lost to Kentucky, Florida, and Iowa and they thought the season would go better.
One to two more wins would equal 8-9 wins for next year based on most predictions here and I think we would all be happy about that. If this doesn't work out and I'm not getting excited until he shows up to Starkville and the ink is dry obviously Key will be the guy and I think he can do a good job. I just hope that Stevens isn't Joe's Cam Newton and Key isn't Joe's Relf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
I would be very happy with a more accurate Fitzgerald. I've wanted one for three years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by MedDawg
Erroll Thompson was this year and Moorhead said it was not even close with who the team voted for as captains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
I only watched the 1st 3 minutes, but I noticed most of these highlights were in the 4th quarter in blowout games. Also, some questionable opposition, Akron, etc. BTW. Big 10, couple of very good programs and weak sisters. I question these transfers who couldn't make it as a starter somewhere else. If we get him, I hope that I am proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
He was thought to be the frontrunner for taking over the starting role this year until he was injured and could not participate in spring practice. Franklin was not going to name him the starter yet and he left to ensure he went somewhere he was not going to have to worry about not playing. Joe is obviously telling him he is better than who we have on our roster right now or he would not be coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
So, he's coming?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
I'm questioning Moorhead's ability to develop QBs right now with his hand constantly in the cookie jar searching for something else. Mullen could take nobodies and turn them into All-SEC types. I realize that's rare and very few can do that but damn if Joe doesn't even want to take on the challenge. Keytaon has plenty of tools to win a lot of games. Develop a damn playbook tailored for him and stop looking everywhere else for your solution at the QB position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Moorhead has my full support, but he got a little taste of the SEC West last year and probably didn't like it too much. He's looking to get the most out of the offense is all I can say.
This thread is based on an article from 247 who has a national writer saying he has a good source saying we are the favorite to land him....I'd say there is a pretty good chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
At this point I'm whatever. Just win Joe or get out of the way. Stop all of the talking and wake up. I don't know who or what he's trying to be but the team deserves more.
I have already pointed to about 5 or 6 elite offensive coaches that have struggled early at schools that did not have quarterbacks to fit their system. It's not as easy as you want it to be no matter how many times you say it. He's doing what he thinks is best to win games as fast as he can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
It really doesn?t make a damn who the QB is (other than decision making) when we have low end Juco talent at WR. This offense is about big plays and we don?t have big play skill guys.
So you can make that judgement after one season with a QB who has a career sub 57% completion percentage coming into the year? Dude couldn't throw when Moorhead got here and Mullen supposedly was the QB whisperer. What did you think Moorhead would do in 8 months that Mullen couldn't do in 4 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Moorhead really didn't have 8 months. Nick could not even go through spring practice because of his leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Very true. I guess it was what, more like 5 months? Not sure how anyone could expect a new coach like Moorhead to come in and get less than usual time with the QB and still turn him in to something Mullen never could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
That?s not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Getting Stevens won?t solve all offensive issues so stop acting like it will. We still have to get wide receivers and TE who can catch the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The counter to that is that Moorhead should have tailored the offense, and he did to an extent. I think Kentucky caught him completely off guard, but that was as much about dumb penalties setting us back as it was anything else. Florida showed him that he truly had to change the offense and he did against Auburn and LSU. LSU was so bad that he just went back to his normal offense and it worked against A&M and everyone else except Alabama, who we were not beating no matter what system we ran. Iowa was a shit show. Tons of turnovers, errant throws, wide receivers dropping passes, and an unusual mistake by the best safety in college football cost us the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Somewhat true. Stevens will be able to run the offense efficiently IF the other skill positions catch on, namely the WRs.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Our defense is going to have to perform too.
That isnt true. The internet fanbase isnt indicative of the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
If this kid can come in and win the job EVERYONE should be all in with this.
No knock on KT, if he beats him out then great
I will say this about the locker room. The way Mullen and the staff handled Fitz and Williams had that locker room divided. That’s a fact.
And like some have said in this thread , the courting of KB seemed to be a positive thing amongst the players.
Yes, But getting a guy that can read the right read , and make the throw is a HUGE deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
If this kid can do that , this will make the WR core much better.