Read some fan theories, and some think the NK isn't completely dead. They theorized that he passed part of himself to bran when he marked himQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
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Read some fan theories, and some think the NK isn't completely dead. They theorized that he passed part of himself to bran when he marked himQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I agree, I wish that Jon had gotten to him and had some type of fight with the Night King then raising the dead to go after Bran. The battle itself was great but as much as I LOVED Arya going ninja and killing him, that was a little anticlimatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
One thing that bothered me about the episode was Jon staring at the Ice Dragon. My wife read an article that explained it. Jon stood up to draw the dragon's attention and then he was yelling Go to Arya to run by. That is how Arya got close to the NK and you see one of the Lt hair blow as she runs by. It makes a lot more sense that way.
I read that article too. I'm not quite buying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
90% of the fan theories are have turned out to be shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Welp....that shit took a dark turn.
Another dragon bites the dust. Grey Worm is a pissed off m'fer now.
She turned and ran when the battle got tough.
She's lost the north. She's lost the wildlings. She's lost most of her army. She's lost 2 of her 3 dragons. She lost the strongest claim to the throne.
I have to think all this loss isn't foreshadowing and that it's setting us up to expect failure, or she's about to go mad. Either way, I'm totally expecting someone other than the 3 main power players left to sit on the throne.
Arya is not a lady!!!
Sansa whereas Littlefinger did all of the hard work. He trained her but he was behind everything to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
I got a friend that is adamant the Arryn boy winds up on the throne. Everyone else dies.
I told him he's full of shit. Dany put Gendry on the Iron Throne by legitimizing him as a Baratheon and Lord of Storms End.
No, it's going to be Tyrion and Sansa as co-rulers. Book it. Gendry & Arya are going to marry and rule in Winterfell. Arya's going to realize she doesn't have to be a classic, stereotypical "lady" to be a Lady. The Hound is going to be mortally wounded fighting The Mountain and Arya is going to give her buddy the Gift of Mercy. Full circle moment from season 3 (I think) when he asks for it and she leaves him to die. Then she kills The Mountain. Only question I have on that is whether or not she loses a hand doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I'm still 100% sure Dany is going to die in childbirth. The only question I have is whether or not Jon swaps his life for hers. If he does, I think she abdicates the throne to go raise her child in peace somewhere, honoring Jon's sacrifice. That's why I think it'll be Tyrion and Sansa. They hinted at it during a couple of crypt scenes in Ep. 3. And I've decided none of the dragons are going to survive. Of course, it they go the Mad Queen route, all bets are off.
Sam lives and is made Grand Maester in Old Town. He's going to reform the Order so women can be Maesters too and Gilly becomes the first female maester.
After that, I'm not sure. I think Jaime and Brienne wind up together, but I'm not sure of Jaime's ultimate fate. Hand to Tyrion & Sansa? Lord of Casterly Rock & Warden of the West? Head of the King & Queen's Guard? I could see several different endings for him. Davos...I hope he lives, but I'm thinking he dies. But he'd be a badass Hand if he lives. Grey Worm is going to die, I think. Pod - I hope he lives, but I could see it going either way. Yara - I think she dies trying to kill Euron. Sure I'm still missing a couple of characters, but that's what I've got for now. (I'm assuming every key member of the Cersei faction dies - Euron, Pycell, Cersei, etc.)
Jamie kills Cersei b/c it fits perfectly with her prophecy. But I think Jamie dies in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
I think Yara comes after Euron. Either she kills him or Jamie does.
I think Dany incinerates King's Landing and this gets her the Mad Queen title. Ep 6 is the reconciliation of that act w/ Jon having to kill Dany b/c she wants to kill everyone that opposes her now.
Winterfell becomes the seat of power for the 7 kingdoms and Sansa is the queen.
I think they should form a counsel after the mad queen dies. Democracy is born as dragons and the dead disappear.
I agree, and trump should head the council (I kid, i kid)Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Obama for the Iron Throne! Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I do think they're going to kill all the boogie men creatures and dragons and everything else to where only man survives. No three eyed raven. No dragons. No walking dead. That's how they become "only stories."
If the leaks on Redditt are true there are gonna some very pissed off people.
If there are some really pissed off people, I don't know what to say. GRRM and the producers have been very consistent in saying the ending will be "bittersweet." It won't be an ending everyone "likes" but I do think it'll make sense in the context of the larger story being told. But as I said, it seems the show has taken a very different route than the one GRRM has/had planned for the books. I really think they're going to be pretty different after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
They have to do something to shock viewers. Having Jon reign would be too easy and predictable. Samwell for the Iron throne!!
Not bittersweet. A let down that you've spent 8 yrs following this show and that's the best ending they can come up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
If Jon has to kill Dany then it will probably be bittersweet. If Jon is basically forced to rule then it kind of follows with "heavy is the head that wears the crown". He would be happier doing something else but does it out of obligation. Dany wants the throne because she thinks it is her destiny, Cersei wants it for the power, Sansa would want it also for the power but would be a better ruler than Cersei, and no one else is really up for it. Anyone outside of those 4 really is a curve ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Totally expect a curveball but I think I'll only be satisfied with Jon out of those 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
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The only thing I care about.
So the big rumor is one of the dragons laid eggs in Old Valaryia - the scene where Tyrion and Jorah are sailing by the ruins and see a dragon fly by - two seasons ago and we get to see them attack Euron's fleet.
That would definitely be a curve ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
A flock of Dragons would probably seal it. Jon is gonna get eaten.
I think the Reddit leaks are bullshit. Watched a Youtube video that matched the recent leaks and there are several inconsistencies. One says Tyrion dies another by the same poster says Tyrion is on the small council for Bran who is named king. Not one leak mentions multiple dragons..yet that is the big rumor now with the actor who portrays Euron going right along with it posting some cryptic tweets.
It's all a ruse.
That would be a problem for me. Bran would be the last guy who or would want to be named king. That would just kind of go against the character.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I think that Dany gets the throne and starts burning people like Varys and/or Tyrion for talking about putting Jon on the throne. Then she wants to kill Sansa for not bending the knee and Jon steps in and kills her. Jon either takes the throne out of duty or just goes North and Sansa ends up on the throne.
Ok, Mad Queen angle...
I thought Arya was going to kill Cersi, but she's going to kill the Dragon Queen. Knight King and Dragon Queen I'm back to back wars would be pretty strong.
I am definitely let down by this episode. I understand the angle but overall about 20 minutes of plot happened and what did was weak. They have one more episode to end the story strong instead of with a whimper.
Arya does a Hunger Games on Dany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Worst episode of 8 seasons. They just blew it all to hell. Terrible writing... very rushed. You can tell this isn't GRRM's story anymore.
I agree. I told my wife last night that if GRRM EVER finishes the books then he very well might change a lot of things including who ends up on the Iron Throne.Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Absolute shit episode.
Jon Snow has become a fool. He still knows nothing.
Cersei got off waaaay too easy. Completely ****ed Jaime's character.
Clegane Bowl was meh.
Arya Stark changed her life goals from a piss poor motivational speech. (This whole arc should have taken three episodes as the two ride to King's Landing)
The two Davids can't write for shit without GRRM looking over their shoulders and guiding them.
Six episodes? They rushed enough shit in the plot it should damn well be at least ten!
And don't get me started on what a waste the Golden Company turned out to be.
So, what you're telling me David and David is if Dany had attacked King's Landing in season 7 with all three of her dragons this shit would have been over before the Dothraki or Unsullied could have made it through the gate.
Drogon > The Iron Fleet, 20 scorpions, The Golden Company, The Lannister Army and the city of King's Landing
Drogon took out the Iron Fleet and Euron fired 1 scorpion. What is the difference from this week compared to last week when they were filling the sky up with scorpion bolts?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
One thing in the after the episode, one of the David's mentioned that Dany basically had zero sympathy for her brother getting melted in front of her so she has had an ability to give zero 17s. Her melting women and children has been inside her all along and maybe being the close to the Iron Throne drove her further towards madness.
It definitely feels rushed and maybe this will be the incentive for GRRM to finish his books since the ending is getting massacred. He might even find a different ending compared to the shows.
My theory now is GRRM is waiting on the Davids to get finished ****ing things up so he can correct it in the books.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
I didn't watch the after show b/c I was so disgusted. But that sounds like a Russo Brother's after the fact explanation.
And a real Mad Queen would kill Jon Snow. He is the true heir and anything short of his death leaves him the possibility of usurping her throne.
The best part of this season, the memes.
https://preview.redd.it/ww4y4d1u40y2...=webp&ef7ce30f
I think Dany tries to kill Jon or Sansa and that is what sets Jon off. Arya might snipe her but I just don't know how I would feel about her killing the Night King and Dany.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I think Dany is going to kill Tyrion and/or Sansa and Jon will break free after that. Arya will kill Dany IMO. Jon will fight the unsullied.
I keep waiting for Bron to take over the dragon. Seems like they would've worked that in by now.
Jon will accept the Iron throne with a heavy heart. Only he and Arya survive.
Is there a time length for the finale yet? Really hope it pushes 2 hours