Bars in the district kicked students out tonight, cops helped

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Yeah, I read Lynn Spruill's statement above and she indicated to file a report with the police but there's not a damn thing anyone can do if it's on private property. I'm not condoning this whatsoever, it's unacceptable, but just not sure anything can be done. Luckily though, everyone was o.k.

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Salty something can be done! Just don't spend your money there, it won't take long till they're closed!

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

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I can assure you no acceptable storm plan is to evacuate the building unless you're in a mobile home in which case they advise to leave before storms arrive.

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

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You sir are an idiot! First off I wasn?t relying on college kids social media post, I was going off first hand information from adults who are in their 30?s. Neither of which are even in social media so good try.

1) to get a liquor license you have to comply with ms department of health level 2 risk assessment and proved an emergency plan. In no way would an emergency plan pass if it was stated during a tornado warning kick everyone out into the street during said warning. Use some damn common sense.

2) refer to one and common sense about kicking everyone out during a tornado warning.

Further on that if someone had been killed because they were forced out could the business be charged with negligible homicide?

3) reading comprehension is a great skill to have. I said I spoke to friends in their 30?s who were there. I?m not relying on a damn video.

And don?t bring political crap into this. Your argument is completely backwards. We don?t have a open border with Mexico but Bin 612 has a open door policy because they are a business. Bin 612 isn?t some high dollar name on the list to gain entry place.

You sir are the problem with America today.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

You sir are an idiot! First off I wasn?t relying on college kids social media post, I was going off first hand information from adults who are in their 30?s. Neither of which are even in social media so good try.

1) to get a liquor license you have to comply with ms department of health level 2 risk assessment and proved an emergency plan. In no way would an emergency plan pass if it was stated during a tornado warning kick everyone out into the street during said warning. Use some damn common sense.

2) refer to one and common sense about kicking everyone out during a tornado warning.

Further on that if someone had been killed because they were forced out could the business be charged with negligible homicide?

3) reading comprehension is a great skill to have. I said I spoke to friends in their 30?s who were there. I?m not relying on a damn video.

And don?t bring political crap into this. Your argument is completely backwards. We don?t have a open border with Mexico but Bin 612 has a open door policy because they are a business. Bin 612 isn?t some high dollar name on the list to gain entry place.

You sir are the problem with America today.

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Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I know enough people that were there to know that whoever you?re trying to take up for needs their ass whipped.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

You seem nice.

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If my daughter had been in that crowd last night, I would be in there today asking who made that decision to kick the people out. I assure you when I found that person a mud hole would be stomped.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

I do understand how a minute of video can paint a picture, but it might not be representative of the entire picture. Maybe it is, but you don't know unless you were there. If you have first hand sources, I'd vet the sources. It's like taking a quote out of context.

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You realize you reach a point when you hear something from over a dozen reliable sources it is probably true right?

It isn’t just the video or just the sources, the combo of the two is what is damning.

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

This is a perfect example of why social media can’t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn’t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don’t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don’t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about “rights” and more about wwjd? Yes

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

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You clearly have a reading comprehension problem! I said I had friends who were inside and got kicked out!

And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem! I said I had friends who were inside and got kicked out!

And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

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The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

This is a perfect example of why social media can?t be allowed to drive our society
1. There is no affirmative requirement to have a storm shelter to have a liquor license.
2. An acceptable storm plan for that building may be to evacuate the building
3 no, a one minute video doesn?t tell you what happened before the video or after the video

And just like migrants don?t have a right to come to our country because theirs is crappy you don?t have a right to go in private property.
Yes you do have a right to be critical on Twitter just like the liberals have a right to complain about trumps immigration policy

Should people worry less about ?rights? and more about wwjd? Yes

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Ah there is is. You’re not really conservative, you are just anti-liberal. A private business has the right to kick people out, and the free market is reacting accordingly to those actions. This is literally a conservative free market in action, but all you can focus on is an anti-social media, anti-liberal narrative.

Once again, I’m going off multiple first hand accounts from reliable friends, the video just confirms what I heard, it is a supplementary source.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

And you said wwjd? I don?t know what god you believe in but mine would offer shelter and not put others in harms way.

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The inn is full**

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

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And what is your source on that? Because I have a dozen that say different?

And you’re right, the business has a right to kick people out and people have a right to react and choose not to go there and spread the word about what happened, it’s called a free market. You’d know that is your were the real conservative you are trying to act like you are.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

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I bet next time they won?t go out for the fear of being kicked out into the storm.

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Originally Posted by BeastMan

The business has a responsibility to the guest to help them in that event. They chose to be open and take patrons money despite the weather. There should be no debate about that. You gotta be smarter than going out drinking during a serious weather event like that though. Grab a bottle and bunker down at home. Invites friends over. Whatever.

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I agree about people not going there, but FWIW all that we heard on campus all week was rain and that the game would get moved. People never talked about it like it?d be a bad cell till that night. I consider myself incredibly weather aware but to my knowledge I was just told it was a bad thunderstorm until I got the Maroon Alert text.

The majority of what I saw online about weather was concerned with the stuff that could effect the game, not the stuff Saturday night.

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Originally Posted by Rayburn8

And what is your source on that? Because I have a dozen that say different?

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Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

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People are saying “hey this business did this thing most people consider immoral, if you consider this immoral, know this business did this and you may not want to go here.”

Why is that wrong? It is just the free market reacting to a bad choice.

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

Actually it’s not reading comprehension that is the problem but LISTENING comprehension
The bar employees clearly say they are not letting people in and they are leaving:
Instead of the narrative that the employees kicked people out and stayed in safety it seems to me the employees left to a safer location and were not allowing people in

Again you don’t have a right to enter someone property especially if it a buisiness that is closing

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The video is clear... "Everybody get the F*** out" from employees. Nobody here has said the employees stated they were staying.

For the record.. most here know I support the border issue etc. This is not that. at all.

- these are not kids. They are of legal age and adults.
- they have to own up to their part in their safety
- the business has no obligation to allow them to stay, but it was the right thing to do.
- because the business acted in the manner it did, people have the right to voice their opinion.
- that business, JUST LIKE THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM, has to own up to their part in this. They will get back lash from people.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

The inn is full**

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but gave them a place none the less

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

Listen to the second recording the employees very clearly say they are not letting people in and are leaving

I just don’t get it
The employees are leaving and I assume locking the building to get somewhere safe
What are people saying?
That the employees have a duty to stay because they work in a bar?

It just seems to me that everyone is for freedom and property rights until it’s inconvenient to them personally.
So I have come to believe there are no liberals or conservatives just a bunch of people arguing over money and who is the better person

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Nobody is doing that. Everybody is saying it was wrong to do what the bar elected to do.

- You and everybody agree they have the right to do that.
- We are saying that because of their actions (their right), other have reacted
- and the others have a right to react to the bar's policies.

This is no different in the cake baker.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

If my daughter had been in that crowd last night, I would be in there today asking who made that decision to kick the people out. I assure you when I found that person a mud hole would be stomped.

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Would you have also stomped a mud hole in your daughter for making the decision to go out during a major storm instead of staying home? Just curious.

Just a question. If they had packed the basement with people and the tornado hit the building and it killed people would they be liable?

Keep the politics out of this or you will get a few days off. No place for that. You can voice your dumb opinion that a business can legally be open without being safe. But it's well known they have a basement.
The mayor has asked this be reported and investigated. the local media will be following up on this. This is not a twitter spat by "snowflakes" . This was almost a very dangerous situation..

This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

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Originally Posted by BorneDawg

Just a question. If they had packed the basement with people and the tornado hit the building and it killed people would they be liable?

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No they were offering shelter. It would be a act of god.

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

It’s private property
Would it have been Christian for them to allow people to stay? Yep
Would it have been good buisiness? Yes

Did people have a right to stay? Nope
Did they and people on this board to break the “outrage” glass and go full melt?
Don’t know, but I am contemplating this morning the apparent relative definition of “entitled”, “snowflake” and “socialist”
Apparently “self reliance”, “private property” are situational
Or maybe the difference between the first set of terms and second isn’t binary but a continuum with extremes

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Holy crap you are a stupid person.

Also just an FYI, because you are clearly an idiot, You are melting and being a snowflake. So STFU

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

Keep the politics out of this or you will get a few days off. No place for that. You can voice your dumb opinion that a business can legally be open without being safe. But it's well known they have a basement.
The mayor has asked this be reported and investigated. the local media will be following up on this. This is not a twitter spat by "snowflakes" . This was almost a very dangerous situation..

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1st The mayor doesn’t a damn thing to do with a private buisiness other than the fact some police were reported to be involved
2nd the discussion involved here is about private property and the “responsibility” to protect others that exists so by definition it’s either political or religious. If you don’t like either than lock the thread not just threaten to ban people you disagree with

Damn now this is what is wrong with the country
People not understanding what the principals that are discussin nor willing to listen to the other side

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Originally Posted by Sparrows2

1st The mayor doesn’t a damn thing to do with a private buisiness other than the fact some police were reported to be involved
2nd the discussion involved here is about private property and the “responsibility” to protect others that exists so by definition it’s either political or religious. If you don’t like either than lock the thread not just threaten to ban people you disagree with

Damn now this is what is wrong with the country
People not understanding what the principals that are discussin nor willing to listen to the other side

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Your stupid or a troll.. either way. See ya

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

Maybe, just maybe, it's unwise to draw broad sweeping conclusions from a minute long video posted on Twitter.

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Holy crap. You are also an idiot

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Originally Posted by Rayburn8

You realize you reach a point when you hear something from over a dozen reliable sources it is probably true right?

It isn?t just the video or just the sources, the combo of the two is what is damning.

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Ummm. . . . that's what I said. You don't just use a video out of context to draw a conclusion. If you have first hand accounts, you vet the sources. A big missing piece is what Bin 612 has to say. I'd never draw a conclusion without hearing both sides.

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Originally Posted by Dawg2003

Ummm. . . . that's what I said. You don't just use a video out of context to draw a conclusion. If you have first hand accounts, you vet the sources. A big missing piece is what Bin 612 has to say. I'd never draw a conclusion without hearing both sides.

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Ya know... OJ wrote a book saying “if I did it” but I’m not drawing any conclusions until I hear his wife’s side of it.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Ya know... OJ wrote a book saying “if I did it” but I’m not drawing any conclusions until I hear his wife’s side of it.

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I'm sorry I had to laugh that you were referencing something you weren't even born for I'm certain.

But i get your point

Boomer with the terrible take go figure. Can?t wait for y?all to die off, for a litany of reasons. I?m glad this idiotic situation didn?t escalate into something horrific.

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Originally Posted by Rayburn8

Bin 612 is the one mentioned specifically, told people to leave during the tornado stuff and got the cops involved. Heard some stuff that is a bad look for everyone involved.

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Had friends there, take your bar business elsewhere like Bulldog Burger and the Guestroom which actually tried to help people.


EDIT: To add the Bin had a whole basement people could have hid in.

EDIT: Video, WARNING Language

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...iFJK.mp4?tag=8

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Yeah, the Bin612 basement could hold maybe 4 people. First off, I am sure this was started by the police. It is their job to clear public congested areas when their is a direct threat, i.e. a tornado warning being issued. Having hundreds of people in an unsafe area is a great way for hundreds of people to die.

Also, they were told as soon as the tornado warning was issued to leave and find shelter. The Bin is not a safe place to be in a storm. Letting people stay there, when they were told 30 minutes before the action to leave is dangerous in its own right.

Now if everyone would take a moment and realize a place that has 100+ people there when its not a safe place for a tornado is a big deal. That is why the police always take it upon themselves to clear it out.

This is not a Bin issue. This is not a Starkville Police issue. This is an issue with adults not heeding a warning and the cops having to take action. Boycotts for Bin in this scenario are stupid as shit. JMHO.

Son if you have kids associated with this, you are shit at teaching your kids how to heed a tornado warning.

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Originally Posted by hopsondawg22

Boomer with the terrible take go figure. Can?t wait for y?all to die off, for a litany of reasons. I?m glad this idiotic situation didn?t escalate into something horrific.

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Who is boomer?

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

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Wow. Anyone know exactly how many people were there? 100, 200, 300?

Baby boomer, you silly boomer.

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

This thread is full of absolutely disgusting people. Y’all really hate us students. Wow.

None of us are saying the bin should be required to house people. It’s private property. They can do what they want. Freedom of speech and all that.

But freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. You wanna have a policy to put people on the street in times of severe weather threats... people don’t have to go there.

Honestly, would you willingly go somewhere that throws you outside when a tornado is less than 2 miles away? If you would that’s cool, but if not then the BIN has shown they are not the place for you.

People don’t like to be treated like that. It’s not illegal, but it’s not good southern hospitality.

So with that, as private citizens we have 0 obligation to give them any business. Therefore a lot of us are not going to. I love going there, but I cannot in good conscience give money to an establishment that would treat me like that. You don’t have to if you’re into being treated like garbage. Keep going by all means if that’s your thing. Or maybe teach them a lesson in what happens when you treat the patrons of your bar like dogshit.

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This isn't freedom of speech, you do understand that the Bin is a terrible place to be in a tornado? Starkville PD and the Bin have to know this. To my knowledge, Tyler was not kicking people out of their basement. You know why, cause it actually is a relatively safe place to shelter.

Just the simple fact you mentioned freedom of speech here tells me everything I need to know.

People lose their shit over being kicked out of a bar during a storm, but a lot of those same people have no problem drinking and jumping in a car and driving somewhere many nights.

The bin was encouraging that behavior by kicking people out to seek shelter else where, another terrible take.

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Originally Posted by hopsondawg22

The bin was encouraging that behavior by kicking people out to seek shelter else where, another terrible take.

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Did I say they were right for doing it? No. You completely missed the point kid.