Marcus Johnson rumors

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

If this comes to fruition I'll just remind everyone about the rumor of Hud and Johnson having the meeting with Moorhead about his offense not working.

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And I will once again remind you I know Marcus personally and that never happened. HUD May have said something but Marcus did not.

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Originally Posted by Hambone

And I will once again remind you I know Marcus personally and that never happened. HUD May have said something but Marcus did not.

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Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors.

We have too many fans of our school pulling against us. Oh what a time it must be to be an Ole Miss fan and see their arch rivals complain and back bite over themselves on an 8-5 football season, a 14-3 men’s basketball season, and a 17-1 women’s basketball season and calling what we’ve seen so far a failure. When was the last year we went to a bowl, went to both men’s and women’s NCAA tournament’s, and went to a Super Regional in baseball? I think at the bare minimum all of those things could happen and we have some on here that want to fire John Cohen as AD. That’s not mediocrity folks. That’s excellence that very few other universities can match or even claim.

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Originally Posted by whosyourdawgy

Let?s look at who has left and more importantly where they are going
1. Hud - HEAD COACH Austin Peay
2. Huff - Same position possibly at ALABAMA under SABAN. He wants to be a head coach. Adding working under Saban to a resume helps that tremendously
3. Boniol - the NFL Tampa Bay Bucs under Arians - Better job
4. Piroli - DITTO - Better job
5. Possible Getsy to the GREEN BAY PACKER bc Aaron Rodgers requested for him to maybe get a position - BETTER JOB but not a done deal yet
Who am i missing? If you were in any of their shoes, lie to me and say you wouldn?t take the job they all took.

Now let?s look at positives
Shoop - extension
Brian Baker - extension
Tony freakin Hughes - back in house

All 3 of these coaches still here is greater than the sum of the losses listed above. Although it would be nice to keep Getsy and would?ve been great to keep Boniol and Piroli, i completely understand them moving on and wish them well. Step back off the damn ledge and let?s see what Moorhead does.

Still in the house as well
Tbuck - got extension last season correct?
Breiner
Marcus Johnson
Lukabu
Brad Peterson
Rod Gibson

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Would love to keep Lakabu and Johnson. Rep given+1

Can we just agree that today's college game /coaching staffs are not about stability. It is NFL-like free agency movement. We are not going to see longevity again. There is no "State Man" that represents longevity. One misstep and he would be crucified by the "message board" coaches also.If he existed at all!

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

We have too many fans of our school pulling against us. Oh what a time it must be to be an Ole Miss fan and see their arch rivals complain and back bite over themselves on an 8-5 football season, a 14-3 men’s basketball season, and a 17-1 women’s basketball season and calling what we’ve seen so far a failure. When was the last year we went to a bowl, went to both men’s and women’s NCAA tournament’s, and went to a Super Regional in baseball? I think at the bare minimum all of those things could happen and we have some on here that want to fire John Cohen as AD. That’s not mediocrity folks. That’s excellence that very few other universities can match or even claim.

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Tell it! +1

Brad Peterson needs to be promoted to an on the field position. I'm pretty sure everyone can agree on this.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Brad Peterson needs to be promoted to an on the field position. I'm pretty sure everyone can agree on this.

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He absolutely does.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

If the whole offensive staff leaves after 1 year, really makes you wonder

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Yeah the sky is definitely falling. *** Just ask Shotgun, 7 and maybe a couple of more.

Please don’t ask them. They have most depressing outlook on everything

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

We have too many fans of our school pulling against us. Oh what a time it must be to be an Ole Miss fan and see their arch rivals complain and back bite over themselves on an 8-5 football season, a 14-3 men’s basketball season, and a 17-1 women’s basketball season and calling what we’ve seen so far a failure. When was the last year we went to a bowl, went to both men’s and women’s NCAA tournament’s, and went to a Super Regional in baseball? I think at the bare minimum all of those things could happen and we have some on here that want to fire John Cohen as AD. That’s not mediocrity folks. That’s excellence that very few other universities can match or even claim.

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Post of the year and entirely true! We have to many of the "little lights are not twinkling Clark" folks.

Rep given!

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Originally Posted by Hambone

Please don’t ask them. They have most depressing outlook on everything

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I do worry about their mental health on occasion

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

We have too many fans of our school. on ED and a few other MSU message boards, pulling against us. Oh what a time it must be to be an Ole Miss fan and see their arch rivals complain and back bite over themselves on an 8-5 football season, a 14-3 men’s basketball season, and a 17-1 women’s basketball season and calling what we’ve seen so far a failure. When was the last year we went to a bowl, went to both men’s and women’s NCAA tournament’s, and went to a Super Regional in baseball? I think at the bare minimum all of those things could happen and we have some on here that want to fire John Cohen as AD. That’s not mediocrity folks. That’s excellence that very few other universities can match or even claim.

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I think this may be more accurate. based on what I hear from people I talk to outside of the message board arenas. Some of these posters on message boards are known to be habitual complainers, or the sky is falling drama fest bunch, over and over. Like I said before, I think some of it is attention seeking.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

It's a joke but okay...

Hud would have us 8-4 too. Don't let your hate cloud the fact he's a decent coach.

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Yeah, of course he would. I bet you and coach34 could too. Let's just fire everybody and take a year off like UAB did.

The Charles Huff rumor of him leaving had wings, but the Johnson rumor is still on the ground , and it doesn't even know how to or want to fly.....Why don't we just start all these unfounded rumors and hurt our football program.*** The OM people who frequent this board just love to read all this crap.

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Originally Posted by DawgNsuds

I like Hud, and wish he would have stayed, but I'm like many and don't understand all the love he gets as a head coach candidate here.

Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP?

Louisiana?Lafayette Ragin' Cajuns (Sun Belt Conference) (2011?2017)
2011 Louisiana?Lafayette 1?4* 1?2* 3rd* (vacated) V New Orleans* (vacated)
2012 Louisiana?Lafayette 5?4* 4?2* T?2nd* (vacated) W New Orleans
2013 Louisiana?Lafayette 1?4* 0?2* T?1st* (vacated) V New Orleans* (vacated)
2014 Louisiana?Lafayette 7?4* 5?1* 2nd* (vacated) W New Orleans
2015 Louisiana?Lafayette 4?8 3?5 T?5th
2016 Louisiana?Lafayette 6?7 5?3 5th L New Orleans
2017 Louisiana 5?7 4?4 T?5th
Louisiana?Lafayette/Louisiana: 29?38* 22?19*

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I'm not saying Hud was a great candidate, but you do realize that's a bunch of 8 and 9 win seasons at a place that was historically a dumpster fire (I don't care enough to look it up, but just going off the L column).

The wheels fell off because of sanctions. Not sure if he got hit with sanctions because he was being overly aggressive and he was dependent on that to win, or if he was just unlucky (as any coach we've had could have been hit with sanctions). But he would have been a decent candidate for us if we had been in the market before he got hit. A successful G5 Head coach or successful Power 5 coordinator is mostly what we're going to hire.

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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg

I think this may be more accurate. based on what I hear from people I talk to outside of the message board arenas. Some of these posters on message boards are known to be habitual complainers, or the sky is falling drama fest bunch, over and over. Like I said before, I think some of it is attention seeking.

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Exactly.
I lot of posters on here need to just shut T. H. up. It is almost like they want attention.
It is one thing 2B passionate about MSU but finding something to be negative about every day is over the top stupid.
Also, whoever is in charge of checking posters should do so as....it appears we may have some Sharks in Dawgs clothing in here...

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

Yeah, of course he would. I bet you and coach34 could too. Let's just fire everybody and take a year off like UAB did.

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It's not the Hud lovers but the Hud haters will the problem. I don't give two shits about Hud but I'm not going to dog him like some of y'all. But, c'mon with the talent on this team last year even Hud could get us to 8-4. Drop the hate use your brain.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors.

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wait a minute:

1) You spread the Hud + Johnson rumor

2) Someone who's close to Johnson says he wouldn't do that

3) "Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors."

Are you defending your bad info by saying that even bad info helps the board? That's asinine. Defend the rumor you spread or admit you don't know what you're talking about, but please don't defend rumors for the sake of rumors because you think # of comments = heath of the board. What's good for the board is to be a place to get info about State and discuss it sanely. False rumors drive people away

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

wait a minute:

1) You spread the Hud + Johnson rumor

2) Someone who's close to Johnson says he wouldn't do that

3) "Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors."

Are you defending your bad info by saying that even bad info helps the board? That's asinine. Defend the rumor you spread or admit you don't know what you're talking about, but please don't defend rumors for the sake of rumors because you think # of comments = heath of the board. What's good for the board is to be a place to get info about State and discuss it sanely. False rumors drive people away

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That rumor is from like October and I didn't start it.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...e-running-game

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Post of the year and entirely true! We have to many of the "little lights are not twinkling Clark" folks.

Rep given!

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I love lamp....

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

That rumor is from like October and I didn't start it.

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...e-running-game

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I never said you started it. What I said was you're spreading it and then defend it by implying all rumors, even false, help the board. That's what I addressed.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

I never said you started it. What I said was you're spreading it and then defend it by implying all rumors, even false, help the board. That's what I addressed.

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I was reminding everyone of said rumor in light of what was mentioned about the possibility of Johnson leaving. The rumor was already out there. I'm not spreading anything. Rumors are not grounded in fact so therefore can't be considered false or true. That's why they are called rumors. And I never said rumors "help" the board. You're making shit up now to throw shade on me.

And I'm done. I have nothing against you or anyone else on this board. I'm not talking about this anymore. Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

It's not the Hud lovers but the Hud haters will the problem. I don't give two shits about Hud but I'm not going to dog him like some of y'all. But, c'mon with the talent on this team last year even Hud could get us to 8-4. Drop the hate use your brain.

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If we had so much talent why didn't we win more games? We had the same talent last year and won the exact same amount plus the bowl game. You people need some perspective.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

If we had so much talent why didn't we win more games? We had the same talent last year and won the exact same amount plus the bowl game. You people need some perspective.

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I'm thinking along the lines of offensive scheme. Hud runs Mullen's offense. Fitz would have been way more comfortable with limited reads and short passes while Aeris was pounding between the tackles. But, Hud would not have had Shoop. That's why I say it's still 8-4. Now, if Hud had Shoop as DC then we could have won 10 games mainly because of the Mullen style offense. No reinventing the wheel.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I was reminding everyone of said rumor in light of what was mentioned about the possibility of Johnson leaving. The rumor was already out there. I'm not spreading anything. Rumors are not grounded in fact so therefore can't be considered false or true. That's why they are called rumors. And I never said rumors "help" the board. You're making shit up now to throw shade on me.

And I'm done. I have nothing against you or anyone else on this board. I'm not talking about this anymore. Have a nice day.

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Oh come on man, someone said it's not true and you literally said "Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors." as your only response. That's obviously implying rumors help the board, or at least that it's fine to spread false rumors here because people like them

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I'm not saying Hud was a great candidate, but you do realize that's a bunch of 8 and 9 win seasons at a place that was historically a dumpster fire (I don't care enough to look it up, but just going off the L column).

The wheels fell off because of sanctions. Not sure if he got hit with sanctions because he was being overly aggressive and he was dependent on that to win, or if he was just unlucky (as any coach we've had could have been hit with sanctions). But he would have been a decent candidate for us if we had been in the market before he got hit. A successful G5 Head coach or successful Power 5 coordinator is mostly what we're going to hire.

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I will say that he knew exactly what kind of recruiter Saunders was, how he did things, before he hired him. It was known across the state among coaches. So at the very least Hud hired him and turned a blind eye or just made sure he knew nothing of what he was doing. Reed Stringer as well. So the sanctions didn?t implicate Hud or Reed directly and ULL did a great job handling that situation. But they both knew about Saunders before he was hired.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Post of the year and entirely true! We have to many of the "little lights are not twinkling Clark" folks.

Rep given!

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You called?***

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

You called?***

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Nice! Rep given!

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Oh come on man, someone said it's not true and you literally said "Okay. It's a rumor. This place thrives on rumors." as your only response. That's obviously implying rumors help the board, or at least that it's fine to spread false rumors here because people like them

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Okay. You're right, I'm wrong.

Happy now?

Can we get back to our regularly scheduled programming?

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I will say that he knew exactly what kind of recruiter Saunders was, how he did things, before he hired him. It was known across the state among coaches. So at the very least Hud hired him and turned a blind eye or just made sure he knew nothing of what he was doing. Reed Stringer as well. So the sanctions didn?t implicate Hud or Reed directly and ULL did a great job handling that situation. But they both knew about Saunders before he was hired.

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I'm sure he did, but we obviously were happy to use him when it benefited us. Some of Nutt's falling out had to do with the fact that Boone stopped him from hiring him (granted that is pretty damning that anybody at Ole Miss thought he was too dirty to touch, but not sure if Boone was on board with the network otherwise and Saunders was a bridge too far, or if he was generally skittish about cheating and Saunders was just the one place he could control).

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I'm sure he did, but we obviously were happy to use him when it benefited us. Some of Nutt's falling out had to do with the fact that Boone stopped him from hiring him (granted that is pretty damning that anybody at Ole Miss thought he was too dirty to touch, but not sure if Boone was on board with the network otherwise and Saunders was a bridge too far, or if he was generally skittish about cheating and Saunders was just the one place he could control).

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I don’t think it was the dirty recruiting and network being an issue but the ACT fraud. Boone did want to have some integrity from the academic stand point. Especially the black eye they got trying to get Powe qualified. And after all if that played out, Boone was right. The ACT fraud was a major issue that brought sanctions. For all the forward rebels that petitioned to get him removed, they should each be lined up and made to kiss his rear for cutting Saunders loose.

The only thing we had with him was the Cell South deal (which was known to have issues as well). It was definitely a bigger front for UNM but several schools were connected to the game plan. But a good bit of that was outside our control or knowledge. A third party issue but yeah we all knew of Saunders issues and tactics.