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10-06-2018, 01:21 PM
TUSK

I'm shocked at the lack of weapons/muzzle discipline displayed in that still... I thought they would have had more firearms experience than that...
10-06-2018, 01:23 PM
GreenheadDawg

Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week. Thanks for clearing that up
10-06-2018, 01:25 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Al Sharpton and CNN would be there as we speak. Pretty damn sad what this country has become. And that goes for both conservatives and liberals. Hate is overflowing

I will assume your google is broken. Because the hate is only going one direction and only one side physically and verbally attacking the other. I think you heard about a softball practice or The Red Hen restaurant. Fhioss are just a couple that come to mind.

I think you are mistaking hate for disagreement because the mainstream has made disagreeable items into hate for their own political purposes. Opposing an ideology or failed policy isn?t hate. Physically intimidating or actually attacking someone can be hate. And quite frankly there is only one side committing those types of acts.

No one physically attacked democrats because they opposed Obama and his failed policies/ideology. They took it to the ballot box like civil individuals. The script flipped on Nov 8, 2016 and we have seen actually physical violence and hate toward the winning side. Albeit most of this is fabricated and paid for by large donors, it?s still does not disprove the facts. Only one side is doing this, and the worst part is the people leading the party are actually donating to funds that pay for the violence.
10-06-2018, 01:25 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week. Thanks for clearing that up

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.
10-06-2018, 01:27 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.

I have a Doctorate so my reading comprehension is just fine. I just don’t speak moron
10-06-2018, 01:29 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

I will assume your google is broken. Because the hate is only going one direction and only one side physically and verbally attacking the other. I think you heard about a softball practice or The Red Hen restaurant. Fhioss are just a couple that come to mind.

I think you are mistaking hate for disagreement because the mainstream has made disagreeable items into hate for their own political purposes. Opposing an ideology or failed policy isn?t hate. Physically intimidating or actually attacking someone can be hate. And quite frankly there is only one side committing those types of acts.

No one physically attacked democrats because they opposed Obama and his failed policies/ideology. They took it to the ballot box like civil individuals. The script flipped on Nov 8, 2016 and we have seen actually physical violence and hate toward the winning side. Albeit most of this is fabricated and paid for by large donors, it?s still does not disprove the facts. Only one side is doing this, and the worst part is the people leading the party are actually donating to funds that pay for the violence.

True. I was just trying to be polite to both sides and not make it completely political. That ship has sailed
10-06-2018, 01:30 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

I have a Doctorate so my reading comprehension is just fine. I just don’t speak moron

Take the L dude.
10-06-2018, 01:31 PM
HereComesTheSpiral

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I'm shocked at the lack of weapons/muzzle discipline displayed in that still... I thought they would have had more firearms experience than that...

At least they're not turned sideways, baby steps mane.
10-06-2018, 01:32 PM
Bully13

So I guess they had a plan to show 2 cops getting killed prior to the tragedy and didn't think to edit that part out in light of recent events. I guess if the 2 cops hadn't been killed, everything would have been cool. Sound about right Q?
10-06-2018, 01:32 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Take the L dude.

And how did you win the argument? I would say you got the L. See, works both ways.
10-06-2018, 01:35 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Bully13

So I guess they had a plan to show 2 cops getting killed prior to the tragedy and didn't think to edit that part out in light of recent events. I guess if the 2 cops hadn't been killed, everything would have been cool. Sound about right Q?

Yep. Had the cops not been killed, nobody would have given their John Q show a second thought, just like nobody did in August or September.

Nobody interpreted the Famous Maroon Band's "Pirates of the Caribbean" show in 2006 as an endorsement of piracy, but if there had been a major pirate incident during that season and the band stupidly decide to play it anyway, it would have lead to confusion and upset.
10-06-2018, 01:36 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral

At least they're not turned sideways, baby steps mane.

That was as strong as a garlic milkshake....

You have been repped, sir.
10-06-2018, 01:37 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

And how did you win the argument? I would say you got the L. See, works both ways.

You: "Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week."
Me: Actually I have repeatedly said that they shouldn't have performed it.
You: Oh, uh, well, uh, uh, uh, you're a moron!!!!1
10-06-2018, 01:43 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Yep. Had the cops not been killed, nobody would have given their John Q show a second thought, just like nobody did in August or September.

Nobody interpreted the Famous Maroon Band's "Pirates of the Caribbean" show in 2006 as an endorsement of piracy, but if there had been a major pirate incident during that season and the band stupidly decide to play it anyway, it would have lead to confusion and upset.

Don’t know one way or another but I haven’t seeing it stated in the news this has been their regular halftime show. Maybe it has been but I know Forest Hill parents/fans in attendance have publicly come out and condemn the director for the performance as well. Nobody has said it was their regular program however, unless I missed it somewhere
10-06-2018, 01:44 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

You: "Ohhh well since they’ve been practicing this for over a month then they should be allowed to perform it, not matter what happened earlier in the week."
Me: Actually I have repeatedly said that they shouldn't have performed it.
You: Oh, uh, well, uh, uh, uh, you're a moron!!!!1

Well then you contradicted yourself by making a whole post about how long they have been practicing it as if that’s an excuse for it. Listen, agree to disagree. This argument with you isn’t worth the time. Go Dawgs
10-06-2018, 01:56 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Well then you contradicted yourself by making a whole post about how long they have been practicing it as if that’s an excuse for it. Listen, agree to disagree. This argument with you isn’t worth the time. Go Dawgs

Pointing out how long the show has been in the works was to dispel with the fiction that this show was an intentional reference to the murdered Brookhaven cops. I have been very clear in this thread, from my first post on, that even though it was not referring to them specifically, they still should have been more sensitive and not performed the part of the show from the photo.
10-06-2018, 02:38 PM
BeastMan

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The people in the band have very little to no say in what type of music they play. I certainly didn't want to do the Madonna show when I was in the band.

Come on, you know you loved performing Like A Virgin**
10-06-2018, 02:41 PM
BeastMan

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Originally Posted by Mutt the Hoople

I'm saying that the Brookhaven fans there weren't too upset with the show.

But do we know that? I saw Madison Co Sheriff Randy Tucker, who was there, comment about it on FB. Honestly, who watches the band at halftime in HS, especially the visitor? I bet the majority of the stadium had no idea it was going on.
10-06-2018, 02:48 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Generally high school bands just do one show per year, so this would have been something planned and rehearsed for months and not a direct response to any incident in Brookhaven.

None the less, they obviously should have been more sensitive and edited that part out of the show out last night. You have to show basic common sense and decency in these situations.

This was the first time they had done that part. It had to be specifically planned.
10-06-2018, 02:51 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Are you the band director? Do you not see the logical breakdown in your post here? I can't possibly know the motivation because I'm not the band director, but you can?

I was involved in marching bands for over 10 years, so I know how they work. I know that high school bands perform 1 show per year and that Forest Hill would have been doing this show all season and the decision to do so would have nothing to do with events in Brookhaven that happened over a month after they started performing it.

They added that part for the first time for this game.
10-06-2018, 02:54 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

This was the first time they had done that part. It had to be specifically planned.

Do you have a source on that?
10-06-2018, 02:57 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by EdDawg

What I read was the theme was from the movie John Q, but why have that as a theme? Most of these students probably weren't born when that movie came out and it's not like it's a classic movie.

Don't think for a second that this movie wasn't picked because of the shooting of "authority" or law enforcement. Heads should roll but when it comes to JPS there is no telling.
10-06-2018, 02:59 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Wow, you really need to work on reading comprehension. I've said all over this thread that this should have been edited out of their show last night due to the events in Brookhaven.

Why should they EVER be allowed to perform where they're acting out the shooting of law enforcement????
10-06-2018, 03:02 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Why should they EVER be allowed to perform where they're acting out the shooting of law enforcement????

There is no shooting of law enforcement in the marching band show or the film John Q -- in the movie, the gun was unloaded. You may think I'm splitting hairs, but I think that's a pretty key difference. It's why the protagonist of the movie is portrayed as heroic and not a cold-blooded killer.

As I previously said, no one would have given this show a second thought if they hadn't stupidly decided to do it in Brookhaven in the aftermath of a police shooting.
10-06-2018, 03:03 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Do you have a source on that?

It was in one if the Mississippi media articles I saw this morning. Not sure which one.
10-06-2018, 03:09 PM
Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg
10-06-2018, 03:12 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

It not appropriate even if it wasn't in Brookhaven this week. If it had been going in all year in a way it's even worse. Heads need to roll.
10-06-2018, 03:13 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

Regardless of what happened in Brookhaven, why would a band be doing such a halftime show anyway?
10-06-2018, 03:14 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

There is no shooting of law enforcement in the marching band show or the film John Q -- in the movie, the gun was unloaded. You may think I'm splitting hairs, but I think that's a pretty key difference. It's why the protagonist of the movie is portrayed as heroic and not a cold-blooded killer.

As I previously said, no one would have given this show a second thought if they hadn't stupidly decided to do it in Brookhaven in the aftermath of a police shooting.

With school shooting issues and law enforcement/public safety departments trying to find ways to educate and develop safety protocols, in what world would bringing simulated automatic weapons be a reasonable idea? Fake loaded or not? Pretty reckless and dangerous idea, nevermind the insensitive nature of the theme. What if one of those students used a real loaded weapon and opened fire? In today’s world it has to be an automatic suspension for the students and firing for the band director.
10-06-2018, 03:21 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

No malice from the STUDENTS is what the mayor stated but the above statement doesn’t say it was a misunderstanding nor has anyone stated that this was being done all year. It may have been but you would think THAT would have been a part of all of these statements immediately. No way would I have made a public statement and not make clear that this was already a part of the program and should have been removed (shouldn’t have been allowed to begin with because of the subject matter and school safety policy....ridiculous)
10-06-2018, 03:22 PM
somebodyshotmypaw

Since it was from a movie, could an all white marching band burn crosses and wear klan outfits like we have seen in movies? Especially when being the visiting team at a predominately black school. Of course not.
10-06-2018, 03:24 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw

Since it was from a movie, could an all white marching band burn crosses and wear klan outfits like we have seen in movies? Especially when being the visiting team at a predominately black school. Of course not.

Is that something you're dying to see?*
10-06-2018, 03:26 PM
somebodyshotmypaw

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Is that something you're dying to see?*

Absolutely not. Just like I don't want to see cops being killed. Both are unacceptable.
10-06-2018, 03:33 PM
starkvegasdawg

Maybe a hs band will do a show based on MS Burning or Roots. I'm sure the lefties would make excuses for that just as vehemently.
10-06-2018, 03:49 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Regardless of what happened in Brookhaven, why would a band be doing such a halftime show anyway?

Exactly, this is supposed to be a 7-minute musical performance at halftime -- why dress in costume and carry guns to entertain. Sounds to me its more of an after-thought excuse (the John Q theme). I think heads need to roll over this!!!
10-06-2018, 03:55 PM
shoeless joe

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

If rolls were reversed and the theme depicted violence toward gays or minorities would you be defending so vehemently?
10-06-2018, 04:01 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

Exactly, this is supposed to be a 7-minute musical performance at halftime -- why dress in costume and carry guns to entertain. Sounds to me its more of an after-thought excuse (the John Q theme). I think heads need to roll over this!!!

Marching band has always been about theatrics. Obviously not HS, but this is Phantom Regiment (DCI) performing their Spartacus show from 2008, complete with special costumes, guard acting as slaves, Drum Majors as Roman officers, etc...Not sticking up for the use of gun props in this HS show, but marching band, to the people that do it, has always been more than just filler during the halftime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6tqrpMnm8
10-06-2018, 04:14 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Marching band has always been about theatrics. Obviously not HS, but this is Phantom Regiment (DCI) performing their Spartacus show from 2008, complete with special costumes, guard acting as slaves, Drum Majors as Roman officers, etc...Not sticking up for the use of gun props in this HS show, but marching band, to the people that do it, has always been more than just filler during the halftime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6tqrpMnm8

Trying to figure out which comparison is dumber. This one or Q's comparing Pirates of the Caribbean to modern day Somalia pirates.
10-06-2018, 04:16 PM
GreenheadDawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Trying to figure out which comparison is dumber. This one or Q's comparing Pirates of the Caribbean to modern day Somalia pirates.

Both comparisons are dumb and both are just trying to push their liberal agenda.
10-06-2018, 04:16 PM
Mutt the Hoople

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Statement from JPS. Just a big misunderstanding, as I suspected. An inexcusable one, but one from stupidity and insensitivity, not malice. The marching band show had a theme from a popular (though old) movie and acted out scenes from it, which included police being held hostage (but not shot). The tragedy in Brookhaven was not even considered in the design and performance of the show. (And before yall melt down again, remember that I've repeatedly stated that the director was in the wrong for not considering it.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do17VWjVAAItFRf.jpg

Here's what Errick L. Greene is REALLY doing.
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