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10-01-2018, 09:11 PM
Mutt the Hoople

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I really hope this is true. If this works and we look like a real SEC offense out there Saturday night Joe better not change a damn thing the rest of the season. Murray said they do not want Nick or the OL thinking too much. The play will be called and that's it. Nick can pull and run if he chooses.

These players needed tutors,untimed tests, and prayer chains to make an 18 on their ACT. Don't make them think too hard.
10-01-2018, 09:13 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He seems to think the light bulb has come on with Joe. Supposedly pulling back the offense and going to a more simplified scheme. The OL can't block for ten seconds while the deep plays develop. We should see a run heavy offense this Saturday. Moorhead met with his offensive coaches to talk about what plays will work with the players they have and those are the plays they are using.

We heard this same 17n thing last week. Moorhead better not come out and have the same game plan as last week.

And I am still on his side.
10-01-2018, 09:14 PM
Lord McBuckethead

Or I will boo that dude until I cannot speak.
10-01-2018, 09:16 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by Pit Bull

Steve Robertson was not pumping sunshine after the last game. He was truly pissed and you could see it on his face. He said the UF game will be the last good crowd of the year.....stating many fans will not return. He's right....just in our small tailgate group, we have lost 6 who will not be in their seats for Auburn. Leaves only 4 of us attending.

I need a tailgate to hang out in
10-01-2018, 09:19 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

Should have been done at halftime at Kentucky.

Should have been done after the second possession at Kentucky.
10-01-2018, 11:37 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Couldn't help but laugh. Ive always though he was more of a baseball guy, no?

I thought he was more of a William Faulkner guy reading his articles. It's like he's trying to win a Pulitzer for an Internet article about Mississippi State football.

But I don't believe it either. It doesn't make sense that our coaches would tell him of all people about some closed door meetings. If they did tell him I bet they don't tell him again because he pretty much just got on the radio and told Auburn our game plan and ruined any element of surprise.

I'm skeptical about anything changing much at this point and I'm definitely in "believe it until I see it mode."
10-01-2018, 11:38 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He seems to think the light bulb has come on with Joe. Supposedly pulling back the offense and going to a more simplified scheme. The OL can't block for ten seconds while the deep plays develop. We should see a run heavy offense this Saturday. Moorhead met with his offensive coaches to talk about what plays will work with the players they have and those are the plays they are using.

Holy shit!!!! You mean something they should have done in march???? Show me dont tell me
10-02-2018, 07:15 AM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He seems to think the light bulb has come on with Joe. Supposedly pulling back the offense and going to a more simplified scheme. The OL can't block for ten seconds while the deep plays develop. We should see a run heavy offense this Saturday. Moorhead met with his offensive coaches to talk about what plays will work with the players they have and those are the plays they are using.

Bull and shit...I do not believe this for one second. That is spin from the athletic department trying to increase attendance at the game. They know, now, that they royally ****ed up this hire. Instead of trying to save money and make a tricky hire they should have opened the pocket book and brought in a successful, established head coach to take this team to the playoffs where it belongs. Instead Cohen tried to get cute. This was a massive opportunity squandered by our AD that will set the MSU football program back years. This is squarely on the head of Cohen and I'm ****ing mad as hell.
10-02-2018, 07:19 AM
msstate7

If there are no changes and we have another 200 yard, 1 score game, Moorhead is done. This Saturday night will be halfway point of season... no longer a SSS
10-02-2018, 07:25 AM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

Well after two losses to teams we should have beat, I would hope so. The light should have came on after UK loss
10-02-2018, 07:32 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Bull and shit...I do not believe this for one second. That is spin from the athletic department trying to increase attendance at the game. They know, now, that they royally ****ed up this hire. Instead of trying to save money and make a tricky hire they should have opened the pocket book and brought in a successful, established head coach to take this team to the playoffs where it belongs. Instead Cohen tried to get cute. This was a massive opportunity squandered by our AD that will set the MSU football program back years. This is squarely on the head of Cohen and I'm ****ing mad as hell.

Who exactly would have been the successful/playoff caliber HC that warranted paying that type of money and fit our talent and program? Honestly that would be an extremely small or nonexistent list, with that criteria. No matter how much you were willing to pay
10-02-2018, 07:52 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If there are no changes and we have another 200 yard, 1 score game, Moorhead is done. This Saturday night will be halfway point of season... no longer a SSS

Yep.

They were just talking on Bounds' show about Arkansas being the only SEC win and still keeping Moorhead one more year. LOL! We ain't beating Ark. That's another 13-10 game right there. We'll be their only SEC win and we'll go 0-8 in conference. Moorhead should be fired if that happens!
10-02-2018, 07:57 AM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Yep.

They were just talking on Bounds' show about Arkansas being the only SEC win and still keeping Moorhead one more year. LOL! We ain't beating Ark. That's another 13-10 game right there. We'll be their only SEC win and we'll go 0-8 in conference. Moorhead should be fired if that happens!

He should quit on his own if he goes 0-8 with this SEC schedule. 4-4 would be piss poor and a minimum with what he?s working with.
10-02-2018, 08:14 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Who exactly would have been the successful/playoff caliber HC that warranted paying that type of money and fit our talent and program? Honestly that would be an extremely small or nonexistent list, with that criteria. No matter how much you were willing to pay

True but I bet Jeremy Pruitt would have us in a better spot right now.
10-02-2018, 08:44 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

True but I bet Jeremy Pruitt would have us in a better spot right now.

Maybe but he didn’t fit the idea of paying a lot for a proven HC that could take us to the playoffs like the OP alluded to. And would Pruitt take our job over Tenn anyway?
10-02-2018, 08:48 AM
Gutter Cobreh

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Originally Posted by msstate7

No, I want him fired at the end of the season if this garbage continues. We are last in every offensive stat, but 13th in passing. Yeah, if that continues, fire his arse.

Did you post this in the Fire Shoop thread, or was that your twin?

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...823-Fire-Shoop

Keep walking back that line my friend....While you may have 50,000 nonsensical posts, doesn't mean that you can flip/flop and not get called out.
10-02-2018, 08:54 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Who exactly would have been the successful/playoff caliber HC that warranted paying that type of money and fit our talent and program? Honestly that would be an extremely small or nonexistent list, with that criteria. No matter how much you were willing to pay

Dana Holgorsen, Les Miles, or Bryan Harsin just off the top of my head would've been great hires. I also think someone like Kiffin or Neal Brown could've done the same thing, they just wouldn't have been looked at as established playoff caliber coaches.
10-02-2018, 08:55 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Did you post this in the Fire Shoop thread, or was that your twin?

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...823-Fire-Shoop

Keep walking back that line my friend....While you may have 50,000 nonsensical posts, doesn't mean that you can flip/flop and not get called out.

That's me. We aren't firing anyone midseason. I'm talking about at the end of the season, which I even doubt we do then.
10-02-2018, 09:22 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Dana Holgorsen, Les Miles, or Bryan Harsin just off the top of my head would've been great hires. I also think someone like Kiffin or Neal Brown could've done the same thing, they just wouldn't have been looked at as established playoff caliber coaches.

Les Miles?!? Come on, horrendous fit with our personnel and he’s so sought after he still doesn’t have a job. Get real

Holgorsen wasn’t leaving WV and what on his resume makes you believe he could lead us to the playoffs. Hasn’t sniffed it in the easier B12. 2 ranked teams in 7 years and a lot of 7 win seasons and a 4 win season

I like Harsin and agree that might be the best option. Boise guy though and outside of Peterson they have all mostly flopped once leaving there

Yeah Kiffin and Brown don’t met the criteria and although still under sanctions during most of his time, Kiffin’s track record at a big program doesn’t fill anyone with confidence. And is a bad fit
10-02-2018, 11:13 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

The most disturbing part of all of this is that it took a full 8 quarters of shitshow for anything to change, hopefully. They say better late than never, but minor 2nd half adjustments and sticking with the run two days ago, and we are 4-1.

Seriously, this is actually bad news if true.

I'd rather the answer be that Moorhead is stubborn than that he is stupid.
10-02-2018, 11:50 AM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Maybe but he didn’t fit the idea of paying a lot for a proven HC that could take us to the playoffs like the OP alluded to. And would Pruitt take our job over Tenn anyway?

As I recall, Cohen interviewed Pruitt and Moorhead and chose Moorhead. I also think that Pruitt would have us in a better spot now. Pisses me off seeing Moorhead's comment about seeing "light at the end of the tunnel". We shouldn't be in the tunnel in the first damn place. If he's such a brilliant football mind, why hasn't he made adjustments long before now?
10-02-2018, 11:54 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

As I recall, Cohen interviewed Pruitt and Moorhead and chose Moorhead. I also think that Pruitt would have us in a better spot now. Pisses me off seeing Moorhead's comment about seeing "light at the end of the tunnel". We shouldn't be in the tunnel in the first damn place. If he's such a brilliant football mind, why hasn't he made adjustments long before now?

Mentioning tunnels and lights should be in pressers that Pruitt gives at UT this season not Moorhead at MSU.
10-02-2018, 12:18 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He seems to think the light bulb has come on with Joe. Supposedly pulling back the offense and going to a more simplified scheme. The OL can't block for ten seconds while the deep plays develop. We should see a run heavy offense this Saturday. Moorhead met with his offensive coaches to talk about what plays will work with the players they have and those are the plays they are using.

Kinda thinkin that 'lighbulb' is 1000 Watt halogen that has been place in Professor Moorheads chair.....got his attention
10-02-2018, 12:28 PM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Maybe but he didn?t fit the idea of paying a lot for a proven HC that could take us to the playoffs like the OP alluded to. And would Pruitt take our job over Tenn anyway?

I would if Phat Phil was going to be my boss.
10-02-2018, 12:37 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Bull and shit...I do not believe this for one second. That is spin from the athletic department trying to increase attendance at the game. They know, now, that they royally ****ed up this hire. Instead of trying to save money and make a tricky hire they should have opened the pocket book and brought in a successful, established head coach to take this team to the playoffs where it belongs. Instead Cohen tried to get cute. This was a massive opportunity squandered by our AD that will set the MSU football program back years. This is squarely on the head of Cohen and I'm ****ing mad as hell.

That's exactly what I don't understand. 15-20 years ago, this was the way to go (paying what we did for a "Moorhead"), but now with SEC revenue, we are a top-25 paying school with an "in-the-black" athletic department and we should never short-change coaching talent again!!! Paying $2-million for a HC was absurd when we were already paying top-15 nationally to Mullen.
10-02-2018, 12:46 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

That's exactly what I don't understand. 15-20 years ago, this was the way to go (paying what we did for a "Moorhead"), but now with SEC revenue, we are a top-25 paying school with an "in-the-black" athletic department and we should never short-change coaching talent again!!! Paying $2-million for a HC was absurd when we were already paying top-15 nationally to Mullen.

Cohen tried to be the smartest intense bastard in the room and it's looking like it might bite him in the ass. There were a few people on here, and I was not one, saying we are at a point in this program's development that hiring a current coordinator and not a current head coach was a mistake. They're looking pretty spot on five games in.
10-02-2018, 12:48 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

That's exactly what I don't understand. 15-20 years ago, this was the way to go (paying what we did for a "Moorhead"), but now with SEC revenue, we are a top-25 paying school with an "in-the-black" athletic department and we should never short-change coaching talent again!!! Paying $2-million for a HC was absurd when we were already paying top-15 nationally to Mullen.

I don't think we were turned down by any good head coaches due to money. It looks like Cohen went after Moorhead and got him for as low as he could. That is just good business and has nothing to do with short-change coaching talent.

You won't find anyone that thought Moorhead was a crap hire. Most people said we made one of the best hires in the country with the candidates we had. I bet UCLA was ecstatic about hiring Chip Kelly especially since they got him over UF. They are currently 0-4. Outside of Urban Meyer or Nick Saban, there are zero sure thing hires. Texas has a shit ton more money and respect compared to MSU and they still hired a non P5 head coach. UT is one of the richest programs in the country and hired the guy passed over for our job.
10-02-2018, 01:37 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

I would if Phat Phil was going to be my boss.

Ha yeah but Pruitt pressured us to go ahead and name him before we were done with the process. And the vast vast majority agreed with Cohen’s decision at the time of Moorehead over Pruitt. We can’t revise history and honestly it’s not like Tenn has come out of the gate like world beaters. Pruitt might surprise me but I haven’t seeing anything that screams Elite from him yet
10-02-2018, 02:03 PM
Homedawg

While I completely agree joe is over his head, who were we supposed to get?? We didn't turn down some stud.
10-02-2018, 03:57 PM
BayouDawg

I will hold out hope that Joe can turn it around. Not looking good right now. I endured the crash and burn of the Kang and the rise of the Croom abomination. Help us God!

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