increasing the size of the band is a great idea.
increasing the size of the band is a great idea.
I was in school 95-99. 95 and 96 no one stayed at the games because we sucked major balls. 97-99 it was packed from start to finish because we had a good to great team.
Students are going to leave the when the team blows because there are a ton of other things to do than sit and watch a shitty football game.
You guys are making an extremely simple issue very complicated. Bringing twitter, Facebook, social media etc. into this as if the students are different today than those that were students before the advent of those things is bullshit. No one wants to watch a shitty football game no matter what year it is.
Coming up with ideas like giving away free tvs and shit is ****ing retarded. Do you think someone that is purely in attendance to see if they win a big screen tv will be engaged and cheer loudly? **** no.
The answer to this problem is and will always be about the quality of the football team. Plain and simple and no raffle ticket giveaways will ever change that.
Put a team on the field that's going to whip the opponents ass and people will cheer their asses off. Remember Auburn in 2000 when they had Rudy Johnson? We didn't score but 17 points in that game but we destroyed the country's leading rusher and the crowd was one of the loudest ever in that stadium. And not a single flat screen tv was given away that day.
no doubt about that. if that were to happen i think ED contributors could wear there ass out just as well!
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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Some sort of block seating would go a long way to keeping students in the game. Students have to get into the game (or start standing in line) 2-3 hours early before kickoff to get good seats. At halftime, you're already at 3.5 to 4 hours being in the game- most of which is spent standing. Block seating would eliminate this.
Also, completely agree about the 1 AM closing time for bars and frat houses. If you stay the whole game, you realistically only have about 2 hours afterwards (by the time you get out of the stadium and through the crowds to get where you're going). If this time was pushed back to at least 2 AM I think it would be a good start to keeping students there.
What do you mean by block seating? I'm slightly confused on this subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyDawg
Alabama and Auburn have seating blocks in the stadium for different student organizations. The different fraternities, sororities, ROTC, different groups like that have assigned sections and the rest is just open seating. The groups have to fill their blocks consistently or they lose them. Of course, Alabama has started an entire campaign of "PLAY FOR FOUR, STAY FOR FOUR" so people are leaving everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
* Block seating will be available to recognized organizations based on their spirit point accumulation.
* Spirit points are calculated and maintained by the Student Government Association.
* The Student Government Association Spirit Program has reserved Sections 24-27 for Auburn University student organizations participating in the block seating program. For more information on the block seating program please contact the SGA office at www.auburn.edu/sga or 844-4240.
* Each student, regardless of block affiliation, must order his/her own tickets.
* Spirit block seating will be enforced until 15 minutes prior to kickoff. After kickoff, any unoccupied seats will be open to any student.
Cut and pasted from Auburn's website.
Just win baby! Like someone else said. However since that only happens on occasion at State, I hope the new endzone section has a roomy concourse with strong wifi.
Long range, when I am close to dead, I see all stadiums having to install large comfortable chair backs through out the stadium to compete with TV. Thus reducing capacity and eliminating some student seating.
Student enrollment continues to increase every year, reducing the student section is not a viable option.
The only way you are going to get them to stop leaving is to offer free beer or hot women to them on the way out the gates, when the 4th Q has finished. Other then that getting a 17 to 22 year old to think about anything else is almost impossible. It's game night and the women, party and beer is waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRef
Haha...ain't that the truth. I'm 21 years old and the only reason I stick around most of the time during really bad, disgusting games is because I'm helplessly optimistic during the heat of the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
I am not sure how it works now but just make the students pay each week for their tickets. The tickets that don't sell put them on the open market or give to some military guy.
Or build some extra giant sky boxes for students and fill it with free food and drinks and if by some chance they do leave we will not know it.
How it works now is that before the season, usually the weekend before the first game of the season, they have a season ticket selling day where students go to the ticket office in the M-club building and pay whatever the going rate for season tickets is for that year and they get a student ticket for every home game. This year, the rate was $40 for a full set of season tickets. Most of the time, however, students buy the tickets then go online to sell them to other students who weren't quite so lucky as to get a set of season tickets which seems impossible since they don't sell out until almost 2 days before the first game. Regardless, then the students must have a student id (easily faked) and a ticket in order to get in. Talks are in place in order to set up an electronic system for buying student season tickets and having them directly on the id so that they can be scanned instead of having hard copies. This system (electronic purchase) is already in place in all of the other universities within the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Turn the new gridiron club into a strip club and have the MSU dance team strip after the game.***
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Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral
BEST suggestion i've seen/heard of. definitely makes them think about leaving.
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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg
I'll bring extra $ bills...***Quote:
Originally Posted by HereComesTheSpiral
We had a discussion on that for basketball seating. Only problem is people WILL be butthurt over their seat placement. Athletic Department doesn't want to hurt student's feelings and wants everyone to have an equal chance. Therefore, this won't happen unless some SERIOUS changes and concessions are given.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
A few suggestions:
1) I've been sitting in the student section for a long time and the biggest issue we have right now outside of not being a great team is the Jumbotron. Everything from the games, music, videos, etc has killed the atmostphere in the stadium. Things like a non enthusiastic dawg pound rock do mattter and should be addressed.
2) All frats should force the pledges to stay the entire game.
3) No gimmicks are going to keep students there. It comes down to psycology and making the stadium feel like "the place to be". Pay a DJ and marketing guru to find out the exact timing and what songs to play along with what a college age student or recruit would find fun and do it. It's not that difficult. One example of this is playing the "Bring em out, Bring em out" song when the team comes on the field. An energy is immediately created when that happens but we have to consistently do this throughout the entire game.
**The problem with blocking off seats is that it would create a late arriving crowd which is not what we want either.
I just don't agree that not having a "great" team is the problem. Granted, if we were awful, I could understand because students wouldn't come to the game in the first place. However, our problem isn't getting students to the game. Our student section is mostly packed out for the first half. Our problem is getting students to stay after half time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Where'sWaldo
I like Auburn's solution.
Yeah ...we can hope students want to sit in same spot for another 1 1/2 hours and watch football because they dont have anything else to do.....Another thing IMO is lot of them probably played sports in HS and were not spectators. They are not far enough removed from that to actually miss it enough that they can watch someone else play the field. Outside of a "big game", the ritual fun of going to the game runs out by half-time. They were used to being on the field and in the action. Watching is boring so they go to find the action they can still be involved in. And the ones who didnt play are following their ex-jock friends because "that is where he action is". They will be back when they have graduated and partying days began to mellow.
This. Shitty football=less people staying. Exciting hard nosed get in your ass football makes people stay. We've lost the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by angusyoung
And I'm not saying we have to win 9-10 every year. I'm saying exciting, intense, hard-nosed football teams. We aren't that.
1. I think many students now haven't been raised on Bulldog sports so its just another event to them. Imagine going to, let's say, a Kansas State-Iowa State game in Kansas. Granted if I were a student there I would still be doing all I could to help, but the passion for some just isn't there.
2. It's not "cool" anymore to make noise and be rowdy. Generation XBOX have not competed for much in their lives and probably haven't had much experience in aggression. Too many soft pussies roaming around these days. Like dawgs said, it's not just here. But our student mimicking of "typical Ole Miss" is why I have the extra dislike for them. Look at the students you see leave at halftime each week and you'll notice the patterns that form.
3. Our older "down in front I cant see" fans are a problem in that many do not contribute to the noise. See Rougedawg's post from last week.
4. We fail to maintain a high intensity atmosphere.
5. Noise level has always been higher with good defense. When most drives end in points after many first downs, why bother? Think about it.. When do the crowds erupt?
A. Big hits- but we've outlawed them. Equate this to "people like NASCAR for the wrecks". If wrecks were outlawed, what would fan support do?
B. Defensive stops- but now everyone converts first downs all the time. There are no dominant defenses in the big games so why yell when you know the first down is coming anyway? Our old defensive struggles were much louder than nowadays.
I just don't think this is the problem, and, if it is, shame the **** on us because we don't deserve to win shit. Students left in the 4th quarter of last year's Tennessee game. We have gone to 3 bowls in a row and will push for 4 in a row. If we can't get students to stay now, then why have they stayed for the past 60 years? This is one of the best runs in school history.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
The point is, we have to think of solutions other than just having a bad ass team. We won't ever have a bad ass team if our students don't stay because it will always be harder to recruit. We must find other ways, because, while we may have a year here or a year there of big time success, our entire fan base can't be so fair weather that our student section goes to shit when we are only competing to go to a bowl rather than the national title.
If we want to be better than the schools with more resources, then have to do extra, stay a little longer, and have a little more passion. Leaving because you don't have a National Title caliber team is going to keep us at the bottom of the west. We must fix this problem if we are going to make progress
A mixture of recruiting and mediocre coaching will be responsible for that, not students leaving at the end of the 3rd quarter.Quote:
Leaving because you don't have a National Title caliber team is going to keep us at the bottom of the west.
I was in the student section for that Tennessee game and it was at least still 90% full when we scored that last TD against UT last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
It is the problem. The crowd feeds off the team and coaches being fired up, excited, and intense. It shows in the way we play when those things are present and it keeps the crowd in it. We are boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Give the fraternities block seating. They will be evaluated at the end of season and if they do not keep their section full the entire game, they lose their block. I know a lot of yall will disagree with this, but coming from an ex student, the best way to keep the student section rowdy is to keep the fraternities together. If the fraternities stay rowdy then it becomes contagious and the entire student section benefits and entices more to stay longer. Most spontaneous stadium chants are started by these groups. It was even that way in Omaha.
agree, 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squidawg11
This is it!! I had to read through 60 something posts to get to someone who gets what I started the original post about during the game the other night.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
There are just so many excuses that don't make sense from shitty game to shitty team to shitty coach. I stated that our fans complain and make excuses why NOT to come to the game OR stay at the game. He is right when he says we are in a great run and am I completely satisfied with year? Of course not but we have lost to 3 top 25 teams.
It's about the big picture here guys. Are we a Bama or LSU? Of course not. Will we ever be? Who knows. But we have to understand where we are in building a program and to have the winning seasons and bowls recently are unprecedented. We MUST do out part as fans and support our team just as hard when we win 6 games because of young players in skill positions, tough schedule, or questionable coaching, just as we do during a 9 win season!! That is how you build support and respect for your program.
We are easily looking at 8 wins next season with and outside chance at 9-10 wins. Don't be the fans that sit back and wait. It's simple: Come to the game, Cheer at the game, Stay for the game.
I am grateful to Mullen but at times want to scream at some of the decisions. Does that mean I'm going to quit on MS State and those guys? Hell no!
To the students, have your band party on Friday night before the game if it is a night game if that is your excuse. If you "need to be entertained" at a football game then keep your ass at home and play Xbox. If football itself is not entertainment enough for you the I'm sorry. Yeah I get the thing with video boards and music and such but come on it's about school pride and being a part of building a tradition on some way, shape and form.
And though the students left en masse at halftime and did see a good number of seats empty out on the West side. So let's old folks be leaders and set an example for our kids!
Hate for it to be that way but you are probably correct. I know that is the way they do it at Auburn (my daughter is there) and they don't have the problem of mass student exodus that we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squidawg11
I think you nailed it.