It's not tough in the same way. It's tough as in it's in the middle of nowhere, it's an 11:00 game, it's not an exciting matchup, and they are well coached.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
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It's not tough in the same way. It's tough as in it's in the middle of nowhere, it's an 11:00 game, it's not an exciting matchup, and they are well coached.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Lines move based on where the money is going. If "everyone" thought Ole Miss was so much better, then the line would've indicated that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Besides, you can't take the results of one game and extrapolate anything meaningful from it. In general, Vegas makes a lot of money, so they're right more often than not.
This is the best defense they will see all year. Period. They are going to get skull ******.
The problem is I don't think his system accounts for development or flops. If you start as a ** you stay a ** even if you win the Heisman.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
It’s a road game at a very unfamiliar place to everyone on the roster.
They will be well coached always are under Synder
I fully expect to win the game by 2tds plus but wouldn’t be shocked and ready to go panic mode if we don’t cover the spread and I don’t give a **** if we win by 31 or by 1 .
Very true and that's where I diverge from him. I believe Fitz, all the Oline, Sweat, Abrams, Cole, Rivers were all 3*. Sweat, Abrams, Cole, Rivers weren't 3* when they came out of Juco IMO. Then Fitz and Oline have exceeded their 3* rankings too. Fitz is at least 4* now and has potential that's off the charts if he improves touch and downfield accuracy. 3 or so Olinemen are like that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BulldogBear
Bartoo goes solely on recruiting rankings in this respect.
It was a good plan because of Mullen's offensive philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I'm the same way. I wanna win... any win is acceptable, and a loss is unacceptableQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
THISQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Bill Connolly has us winning 35-10
https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...s-odds-spreads
Vegas does not set lines based on what they think will happen, but based on what will get the most money flowing on both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
This has always been true. I don't know why people evaluate it as though Vegas is actually making a prediction. They don't care about what actually happens in the game, they care about how to get the most money bet as evenly as possible.
Vegas wasnt saying TT is 2 points better than OM. They were saying that the gamblers would even the bets at TT minus 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Two ENTIRELY different things.
But chicks dig the long ball.**Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Agree. That's my point. Don't fear the Vegas lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
Exactly! They could give a rats behind who wins, as long as they make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Agreed. Don't forget the TE's and RB's as well.. All did great work in the passing game last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I don't think I ever apologized for doubting you on JT Ginn. So I'm sorry, I was wrong. I didn't think there was any way he actually showed up and thought you were just buying in because you knew him. Sorry, man, and boy am I glad to be wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
KState is a tough place to play (historically) and Snider is a great coach (historically), but there is only one year this decade where KState started the year looking terrible yet turned itt around quick. google the schedules: '10, '12, and '14-'17 they blew out the G5 an FCS teams they played in the first 2-3 weeks. in '13 they lost to SDSU and started the year 2-4 with 0 P5 wins. you have to go back to '11 to find a year where they struggled out the gate yet turned out ok.
That's 5/7 years -including the last 4- where KState was WAY better to start the year than we saw last week, 1/7 where they started bad and stayed bad, and 1/7 where they looked bad but were actually good. It would appear as though this is a worse KState team than we're used too. Just my 2c based on history
I appreciate that but there's no reason to apologize, I completely understand why folks were skeptical. I would've probably felt the same way if I didn't have the type of relationship I have with them. It's all good!Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to smootness again.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Interesting stats from KSU game Saturday... they gave up 8 TFLs. They also gave up 3 sacks. They only avg 5.4 yds/carry. For the stength of the team to be the oline, this would be disturbing to me if I were a KSU fan
Our DL is about to hand them an absolute ass whipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think K-State comes out with some counters, reverses, & screens in an effort to slow down our DL
That line tarted TT+2 went as far the other way as TT -2.5 and went off at OM -2 againQuote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
We only averaged 5.95. Not bad but would've liked it to be higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Our best rusher didn't play. Hill and aeris only got got 12 carries total. Throw out the big losses at the end by mayden not completing hand off, we had 35 att for 249 (7.11 per).Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
In a little over 48 hours, it won't matter. Bartoo will be right or he will be wrong. We have our work cut out for us. Kansas State is tough. But if we play well, we will win. We are better. Worry about ourselves and go get that W.
Nick is the secret sauce for Saturday folks. This man is on a mission.
I agree. I think he has a huge day and a huge year!Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
He did? He's a stone idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He actually picked us to win but not cover the 9.5 spreadQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, I didn't word that well. He picked Kansas state and the points bc of coaching.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
So basically a successful Coach34?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
This is what I think too. And Moorhead's offense is exactly what he needs to get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
And I think we kick KSU's ass. I don't think they pose much of a threat to us on either side of the ball.
OuchQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg496
Logged in just to rep this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg496