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07-01-2018, 03:25 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Offensively? No we don't

We lost our last 3 of 4. That's not good enough.
07-01-2018, 03:27 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

Not if we don't play 1A/1B defense all year. We had all the tools that year to be better than we were.

Regardless of how you cut it 2014 results were not good enough.
07-01-2018, 03:56 PM
sleepy dawg

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Regardless of how you cut it 2014 results were not good enough.

I agree with you on that. That was not clear on your original post to me. Play calling at times and improper use of personnel cost us.
07-01-2018, 04:32 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Fitz
Kylin
A Train
Guidry
Green (or some TE)

Mixon
Austin Williams

You want our TE touching the ball more than Mixon? I want Mixon getting as many touches as possible. He is one of our few playmakers.
07-01-2018, 04:35 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Moorhead will likely play Aeris and Kylin at the same time, and he will play Thompson and Fitzgerald at the same time. He might get really crazy and play all 4 haha.

Farrod Green would be the only TE to crack the top 5 but Justin Johnson is a former WR he aint bad

Doubt we play Aeris and Kylin at the same time much if at all. Moorehead is a 1 back guy. Why would we play thompson and Fitz at the same time? Makes no sense. I'm hoping moorhead can use this new rule to get Key a redshirt year back. 4 games for him, 4 games for Mayden to get experience, and at least 4 games where Fitz is the only QB.
07-01-2018, 05:03 PM
thf24

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Why would we play thompson and Fitz at the same time? Makes no sense.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...rbacks-offense

Apparently Moorhead ran those type of plays quite a bit at Penn State, much more often than something you'd call a trick play or gimmick. I have a feeling we won't see that as much here though.
07-01-2018, 05:30 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

I agree with you on that. That was not clear on your original post to me. Play calling at times and improper use of personnel cost us.

Indeed.
07-01-2018, 06:40 PM
SmokeyDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Doubt we play Aeris and Kylin at the same time much if at all. Moorehead is a 1 back guy. Why would we play thompson and Fitz at the same time? Makes no sense. I'm hoping moorhead can use this new rule to get Key a redshirt year back. 4 games for him, 4 games for Mayden to get experience, and at least 4 games where Fitz is the only QB.

He has used 2 running backs on the field. Usually one motioning from the slot or something similar. He has also done the same with 2 dual threat qb's. It's different wrinkles based on what the defense is doing. Not sure why you would do that with Key. If he's as good as we think he his, he's not going to stay for 5 years anyway. He'll have 2 years to lead the program and by then we should have another one or two ready to take the reigns.
07-01-2018, 07:48 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Looks like IYOK has a case of Guidry Adulation as well.
This is the correct list
And I agree if Mixon stays healthy he will have a big year

Austin, will have more catches that Guidry when the year is over
07-01-2018, 08:06 PM
Walkerhill

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Interesting that every list in the thread has Fitz at the top. Not saying that's wrong, but from reading/listening I'm not sure his legs will be used near as much as in the past (not sure if we are counting pass attempts as touches).

One of the recent articles touched on this as well. McSorley had ~15 planned runs per game, including RPOs. The article indicated the plan for Fitz is 20 planner runs including RPOs. That would be roughly equivalent to last years touches.

I would imagine less will be up read option in between the tackles and also less will be in situations where an upcoming qb sneak or run is obvious. Mullen runs his qbs into the teeth of the defense when they know it is coming a lot, all the way back to Tebow. I thought he was going to literally kill Relf one season.
07-01-2018, 08:16 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You want our TE touching the ball more than Mixon? I want Mixon getting as many touches as possible. He is one of our few playmakers.

I didn't say that's what I wanted. I was projecting what would happen based on JoMo's past use of the TE position.
07-01-2018, 08:23 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We lost our last 3 of 4. That's not good enough.

Not bc of the offense.

Historic numbers vs Ga Tech

17 on the road against the number 1 defense in the country in OM with a missed field goal and going for it inside their 5 at the end (normally would be another field goal). OM had been shutout the week before and scored 3 their next game. Our defense cost us that game.

And 20 on the road against a top 5 defense in Bama. A Bama that was one dimensional with no qb and scored 26 on us.

If we get 2014 production offensively with what should be a dominant defense, we will be fine. As potent as this 2018 offense can be, our defense is supposed to be the better unit and carry us.
07-01-2018, 09:14 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Not bc of the offense.

Historic numbers vs Ga Tech

17 on the road against the number 1 defense in the country in OM with a missed field goal and going for it inside their 5 at the end (normally would be another field goal). OM had been shutout the week before and scored 3 their next game. Our defense cost us that game.

And 20 on the road against a top 5 defense in Bama. A Bama that was one dimensional with no qb and scored 26 on us.

If we get 2014 production offensively with what should be a dominant defense, we will be fine. As potent as this 2018 offense can be, our defense is supposed to be the better unit and carry us.

Even with a good defensive performance we still lose those games. We didn't start scoring on Bama until late 2nd half. Ole Miss kicked our teeth on defense and GT did the same. Again, 2014 offense wasn't good enough. They'll be other defenses that will be just as good as 2014 opponents. Again, it's not good enough.
07-01-2018, 09:20 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Austin, will have more catches that Guidry when the year is over

Well Austin is going to have a helluva year.
07-01-2018, 09:48 PM
tcdog70

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Well Austin is going to have a helluva year.

See, that wasn't so hard. Way to come on board.
07-01-2018, 10:03 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Even with a good defensive performance we still lose those games. We didn't start scoring on Bama until late 2nd half. Ole Miss kicked our teeth on defense and GT did the same. Again, 2014 offense wasn't good enough. They'll be other defenses that will be just as good as 2014 opponents. Again, it's not good enough.

Bama was 19-13 with 14:48 left and we couldn't get off the field defensively on three 3rd and 10's the next drive. We went up and down the field the whole second half on that Bama D. I do agree Mullen's nuts shrunk the first half.

Are you saying GT's defense kicked our teeth in? Surely not. And if you're saying GT's offense kicked our teeth in then I agree, but that has nothing to do with our offense.
07-02-2018, 01:51 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by confucius say

Bama was 19-13 with 14:48 left and we couldn't get off the field defensively on three 3rd and 10's the next drive. We went up and down the field the whole second half on that Bama D. I do agree Mullen's nuts shrunk the first half.

Are you saying GT's defense kicked our teeth in? Surely not. And if you're saying GT's offense kicked our teeth in then I agree, but that has nothing to do with our offense.

The defense couldn't get off the field because the offense gave them no breather. Against GT's poor defense we didn't have a 100 yard rusher. Dak's passing yards are misleading being we had to throw to gain any yards. Again, Ole miss kicked our teeth in defensively.
07-02-2018, 03:00 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The defense couldn't get off the field because the offense gave them no breather. Against GT's poor defense we didn't have a 100 yard rusher. Dak's passing yards are misleading being we had to throw to gain any yards. Again, Ole miss kicked our teeth in defensively.

GT was #81 in Total Defense that year. We were #86.
07-02-2018, 04:02 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Doubt we play Aeris and Kylin at the same time much if at all. Moorehead is a 1 back guy. Why would we play thompson and Fitz at the same time? Makes no sense. I'm hoping moorhead can use this new rule to get Key a redshirt year back. 4 games for him, 4 games for Mayden to get experience, and at least 4 games where Fitz is the only QB.

Moorhead played both of those QBs at Penn St. He does a lot of creative stuff. Thats kinda his thing, getting leverage and numbers. Getting his best players on the field regardless who they are.

I bet you we have a package with Fitz at QB and Key lined up next to him or opposite. Worst case it gives the defense something else to prepare for and both of them can throw and run.

I trust him regardless. He is a proven offensive mind
07-02-2018, 04:06 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Even with a good defensive performance we still lose those games. We didn't start scoring on Bama until late 2nd half. Ole Miss kicked our teeth on defense and GT did the same. Again, 2014 offense wasn't good enough. They'll be other defenses that will be just as good as 2014 opponents. Again, it's not good enough.

When we lost to bama in 14 Mullen did his traditonal shut it down coast till the end find the first bus out routine.

Collins had had enough of his shit by the Egg Bowl and was on cruise control as well. Thats why 14 ended like it did. Again it all comes back to Danny 2 gloves
07-02-2018, 05:54 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

When we lost to bama in 14 Mullen did his traditonal shut it down coast till the end find the first bus out routine.

Collins had had enough of his shit by the Egg Bowl and was on cruise control as well. Thats why 14 ended like it did. Again it all comes back to Danny 2 gloves

I agree Mullen did his normal. However, the team didn't have the mentality to win any of those games. They played timid against Bama, didn't match blackbear U's intensity, and didn't play inspired against GT. Players have to take it up a notch against better or equal competition.
07-02-2018, 07:11 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

I agree Mullen did his normal. However, the team didn't have the mentality to win any of those games. They played timid against Bama, didn't match blackbear U's intensity, and didn't play inspired against GT. Players have to take it up a notch against better or equal competition.

We didnt tackle very well against OM and I aint mad at them for getting ran over vs GT. We had no DC, which again falls on 2 gloves

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