LSU, usc, Texas, FSU, and Miami are my top 5 programs
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But coaches want to win. It should be their #1 priority. And we're not a top team from a national title standpoint. We have none. Even Coastal Carolina has one.
That's why I'm wanting to see us go all in on a big time coach and not someone that's been here. We need to step up to the plate with our coaching hire. We've done everything else we can do.
- If Schlossnagle didn't take the Texas job when it was offered, he won't leave TCU for MSU. No reason not to ask him, though.
- Tadlock has worked wonders in Lubbock - I'm convinced he was who Texas wanted but couldn't get through the no-Big XIII-teams clause in his contract. I bet we would be willing to stock several ponds on campus with catfish for him if that's what it takes.
- Given Matt Deggs' baggage, I'm not sure a high-visibility, high-pressure job like ours is the best place for him, but he seems like a good fit. His redemption narrative seems more genuine and less self-serving than some coaches in the North Mississippi area.
If we go the assistant route, I want Saarloos from TCU. If we go the proven HC route, I want either Mingione or Tadlock. Right now my money is on Mingione. Cohen didn't bring him with him on multiple stops for no reason. I'd prefer Tadlock.
He also didn’t go get him when he hired Cann
Mississippi State University is not a blue blood baseball program, if you think we are you are deluded. We, mine and your university has won exactly dick on the national stage. We have gotten close and had a good view of the dance floor but have yet to get asked to the ball. Take a step back and look at what we are known for, great support, great crowds and the left field lounge (that is no more). That's it period. When we can claim a national championship and repeat the feat then we can claim to be a "blue blood" program until then we ain't.
We are a top 5 job, yes. But ALSO, we will have the nicest stadium by far in the country and have all 20 of the largest on campus crowds in college baseball history. Counting all that, I think we are maybe the most attractive baseball coaching job in the country.
Go look at a list of who has even made it to the CWS finals all-time and then get back to me. Georgia has one National Title in football since 1980- would you consider them a blue blood program? I would. Those resources you mentioned are why we are a blueblood program.
There’s a difference between top 5 programs and top 5 jobs. I think we are a top 5 job (support, facilities, etc), but until we start winning ****ing natty’s we aren’t near a top 5 program. That’s why this stings so much and I get frustrated every time we blow another postseason while I watch Fresno st and coastal Carolina hang banners. And now this is going to be a lost season, and who knows how it affects us the next couple of years. Potentially sets us back multiple years. This is the big 3 sport we legitimately can offer what many other programs only dream about and we still can’t close the deal on a natty.
I don?t know how this season is gonna turn out. I do know that Henderson is going to have a calming effect on this team and I can see him getting max potential out of the players. I just don?t know how much that?s gonna get us this year with all that?s happened. I?m gonna be patient and let it play out. I hope for the players sake they have a good season
Maybe Schlossnagle didn't want to follow up Augie Garrido? Plus I think next season we should be a better situation and team than what Texas was when Garrido left. We have some quality arms to work with that should be all 100% recovered from Tommy John or whatever injury and all of our freshmen that are starting will be a year older plus we have juniors that I think will be back next year as seniors
[QUOTE=Todd4State;891398]Go look at a list of who has even made it to the CWS finals all-time and then get back to me. Georgia has one National Title in football since 1980- would you consider them a blue blood program? I would. Those resources you mentioned are why we are a blueblood program.[/QUOTE
What's on our resume to prove our blue bloodedness? We have an appearance in the national finals and lost, we have one SEC championship in the last 28 years how does that resume stack up against LSU, TX, Miami and S Car in the last 20 years. Those are elite blue blood programs, they are what we are aspiring to be. If spending money, and selling out season tickets and having a great fan base makes a program a blue blood then that means you can technically buy that status and never really earn it.
[QUOTE=Coursesuper;891535]We have 9 Omaha Trips. 17 SEC conf titles...7 SEC tourney titles....36 tourney appearances....thats a top 10 program.
You cant have it both ways. You cant say what have you done lately then say what have you done all time.
Lately our football program is top 25 at least... cant keep raising and lowering the bar to fit the narrative
[QUOTE=BuckyIsAB****;891618]When did I say anything about lately, we have won nothing to make us elite, if you want to go all UNM though and talk about the good ole days before segregation go ahead. That still changes nothing, we have no national championships period. None in the last 20 or 30 or 50 much less 100 years. You can also take that narrative bullshit and walk, I at least have an open and honest opinion, I'm not trying to boost my narrative by stating stats from forever for or program.