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Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Why privately? What she does certainly isn't private.Quote:
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Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Not sure why you have such a big issue with Staley's antics during games. There's limitless men that act way worse than her in several sports. I could probably list hundreds of them if I really had to and all of them are worse than her. That actually makes her a little refreshing to me imo she's breaking down a barrier for other women. Coaches are coaches and women coaches should be allowed to get just as expressive as the men do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dawg61 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
This was exactly my point earlier. I couldn't care less about this lawsuit, but I definitely find it amusing at the amount of feigned outrage over over her antics and profanity. Jesus.
Mizzou's AD didn't accuse her of "encouraging bad behavior". He accused her of contributing to the toxic atmosphere that led to the bad behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
If I rile a bunch of people up with a bunch of bullshit talk and someone in that crowd goes out and kills a person because they're all pissed off, did I murder anyone? No. Did I contribute? Yes.
Also, read this article and the links contained therein. Staley accused the Mizzou team of playing like thugs, claimed the officials intentionally screwed them out of a win, and bitched about the officiating for like 5 minutes in her post-game comments. So yeah, I'd say she contributed through her public statements and actions to the problem.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...201701194.html
I get that she's passionate and outspoken but she needs to understand that as a public figure she is not above criticism. She's going to look like a fool unless Mizzou caves because of the lawsuit.
Because she and her team are our chief competition at the moment in the SEC, and among a select few that can compete with us nationally This year. It's that simple 61. If we beat them by 40 every time we played them I could care less what she does, neither would anyone else here. Since we don't, ammo is ammo. That's how the SPORTS game is played. If you are playing another one then that's your business. I'm sick of sports being anything but sports. I'll tell you who she reminds me of on the bench.....Joe B. Hall. I hated him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Even if Missouri is right to complain they aren't smart to do it publicly instead of privately because the entire SEC footprint is still pissed at how they handled the riot situation and embarrassed the SEC so they aren't going to get much support over the current national champion SEC basketball coach right now. Maybe that's not fair but it is the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption
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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Actually the SEC footprint, the very small minority that knows or cares, agrees with him. Nobody that only cares about sports likes Staley, except South Carolina fans. Just like UK fans were the only ones that could tolerate Joe B. Hall. He was a bastard, but he was THEIR bastard. The astounding thing to me is that a few fans from a RIVAL school, seem to be defending Staley. It's very puzzling to a sports fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
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Originally Posted by RougeDawg
You don?t seem to get what this is about. The Mizzou AD claimed fans spit and yelled racial slurs at his student athletes. He then went on to claim that Staley contributed to this type of atmosphere. Here, I?ll explain it to you.
There has been zero proof of fans spitting or using racial slurs against Mizzou student athletes that night. By simple default, it makes the Mizzou AD statements questionable and he should have offered a simple apology.
This is my issue as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Saban, Mullen, Cal, Pearl, Muschamp and on and on and on and on. Don’t see you guys going out of your way to get on to them for contributing (since this is the word we are using) to a bad atmosphere. Wonder why that is.
I don’t like Dawn Staley, but I’m not going to sit here and pretend that the Mizzou AD did the right thing. So that’s my position. Done
He said she promoted that kind of atmosphere. Fun fact, encouraging is a synonym of promoting. The more you know..Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption
Now I’m done
There's nothing astounding about posters on an MSU site discussing a hot topic between two other SEC schools. Are you capable of putting down your maroon tinted granny blockers ever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I suspect the Missouri AD knows a little more about what occurred than those here who are defending Dawn Staley.
No, I'm a MSU guy. I have a REAL hard time understanding supposed MSU fans that say they can. It doesn't make you cool to fans of other schools, they just laugh at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Saban Mullen etc are irrelevant to this topic, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Sounds like Sankey saw what all rational human beings saw and brought it up. Staley is a militant in a prominent position. These are the results and ramifications of said attitudes in said position. Reap what you sow. Sleep in the bed you make. Shall I continue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It?s borderline comical at this point that all Americans don?t see what?s going on. But then again we saw how many voted for a person who committed thousands of counts of illegal activities that would land any one of us under the jail had we committed a similar single violation.
It is where we are as a society. A portion will always defend their leaders no matter how stupid or ignorant. Have to understand and deal with this non thinking phenomena, and make an attempt to teach these people that water is wet, and the sun rises in the east. Yes, this is a tall task to educate the indoctrinated non thinkers. But start off with a bowl of water. Explain that water is wet and go from there. Then fire is hot. Expand upon these things as the subject learns.
Some may disagree with this assessment due to bias ignorance. That?s fine. Prove me wrong with facts because facts own no opinions. I welcome facts.
Oh man you got us Liverpool Sherlock Holmes. You have sniffed out some Gamecock fans on here. Beardo, mstatefan91 and myself have been scheming in PMs on how Lady Gamecocks basketball can get a competitive edge over MSU. We've been busted!! Damn you're one clever tartQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Nope and the fact that you can’t see it.. wellQuote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
This is what's driving me crazy about this with some of you. Nobody here is arguing that Staley is a saint. We all agree that she has a foul mouth. That she comes across as brash and inconsiderate.. nobody is arguing about that at all.. hell, I wouldn't want to be around her
What I am personally arguing is that all of this about her does not lead to the logical conclusion that her behavior promoted "that kind of atmosphere" when "that kind of atmosphere" of spitting on players and yelling racial slurs hasn't even been proven to have taken place.. That's the crux of the argument, and some of you can't seem to wrap your heads around it.
Staley doesn't want money. She wants an apology. Something that should have happened after the statements by the Mizzou AD came back as questionable at best and completely false at worst about spitting and racial slurs and then throwing Staley's name in with it.
So yeah, she yells, she curses, but that doesn't make her guilty of promoting an atmosphere of spitting and racial slurs directed at opposing student-athletes (especially when that can't even be proven)
No, I just pointed out that you aren't as cool and hip as you think you are. Surely to goodness you don't actually even sympathize with Staley ( no question marks, statement). If you are old enough did you sympathize with Joe B. Hall when he came to the Hump? That big red headed guy that used to sit behind the Kentucky bench back then that always gave Joe B hell would have beat your A$$ if you had. Interesting that you are defending our biggest rival in the sport while I'm attacking her though. You obviously aren't a South Carolina fan. What exactly DOES that make you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Ahh ok, I've messed up. This is purely emotional for you guys... peaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Our biggest rival is UConn now baw keep upQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Multiple people have backed up what the AD said. I don't know why you have made up your mind that he should apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Who? Serious? I haven’t seen anyone outside of Mizzou athletics. Now the same could be said in the opposite. But seriously, who? Give me a linkQuote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
I'm sure you can google up your own links.... Do you think everyone connected with Missouri athletics is lying by default? I guess what I don't get is why you trust one side's version but not the other side's. And meanwhile you seem to think Saban, Mullen, Muschamp, and maybe Woody Hayes and Hirohito should be invoked in this discussion. Odd approach, I have to say.
Anything said by Mizzou people should be dismissed. These are safe space, mentally ill, psycho-babble clowns
Seriously I work for a company 50 miles away and we have exactly zero Mizzou grads. Moreover, significant numbers of HS kids actually head to Arkansas, Alabama, Ole Miss, and LSU because Mizzou is a joke
This is a college game and a family atmosphere. She needs to grow up.. others are watching. She would not last at many colleges for sure including this one.
Nope. That's NOT how a civil suit works. Dawn filed the suit and it's up to her to prove she was damaged.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
RR sued Dan Mullen and has to prove that Dan conspired to harm him.
The RR suit is going to be very Interesting... When you start depositions.... The truth which Om doesn't want to know will start coming to the fore front. The truth... Will be spilling out of Oxford....Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
Did you read the articles? If not, you need to do so. She made a lot of statements prior to and after that loss that wouldn't do anything productive except get her team and fanbase pissed off. In other words, she furthered the cause of, supported, or actively encouraged the atmosphere that led to the situation in the second game.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
SHE acted unprofessionally, SHE said things about Mizzou's players, SHE made claims about the referees both being out to get SC's program and being terrible. And more than one person was quoted as saying the slurs occurred.
This suit isn't going anywhere - hell a 10 minute search gave me enough ammo to get it thrown out.
An old fashioned bar of lye soap might help her fouled mouth. Or at least I would hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption
Wasn’t talking about the suit that point. That’s my mistake. Yes the burden of proof falls on Staley for the suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
What I was talking about is the burden of proof falls on the Mizzou AD for the statements he made which included Staley and is why the SEC has largely fallen on the side of Staley in this.
They’re both at fault for it escalating. The lawsuit won’t go anywhere. This ends with an apology from the AD is my guess.
I don't see anyone making comments like this towards Nick Saban or John Cohen when he was our baseball coach. No y'all want Staley to act like a lady while she's coaching a basketball game but how come you don't want men acting like they are at Sunday Church while they are coaching a basketball game too? These are the types of walls that need to be torn down in 2018 for us to live in an equal world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies
I have never seen a coach of any gender be as foul-mouthed as Staley from the bench, front and center, on camera. It would not surprise me in the least if USCe fans took that as a cue to engage in their own objectionable language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
So you think the Missouri AD, who was there, the Missouri coach, the Missouri radio guy, an ex-player....all are lying, that they made this up just to target poor Dawn Staley?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
I’m saying it isn’t enough and it all comes from one side. I would expect our coaches and radio guys to back up Cohen if he made the mistake of issuing public statements like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
And nobody called her poor Staley. I don’t care for her. Everybody is making this personal.
Than you haven't watched any other sport besides women's basketball. I'd link you a Bobby Knight audio but it's too NSFW language for this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive