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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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Honestly, you flip and flop more than any poster on this board....Is this done to keep threads alive or are you that emotional? It's an honest question, as I truly can't figure it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Seems that I'm pretty consistent. I don't think we ever lose a game due to this but it's concerning that we are being beat out by Arkansas for some guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Obsessed may be a more appropriate word.
We just put our staff together a couple weeks ago and you idiots think we can't recruit..........these kids on the fence were committed to the previous staff and some of them were already on the fence with them too. We're all over the 2019 class right now. Jomo has been on the road constantly. So has the rest of the staff. Any kid not signing early is always going to be one you might as well prepare to lose.
So did ArkansasQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
And the kid had a coach at HS influencing and pushing him there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Ha! With that philosophy I guess Simmons and Lewis should be on Bams?s roster right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
THIS! JoMo has been all over the place. Hell the dude was out recruiting during the middle of the ice storm last week. Y'all just still gun shy from the way danny boy handled things in recruiting. Give this staff a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I'd probably go ahead and try to get Williams. I haven't kept up with other guys we've backed off of but Williams or another OL would be where I'd go. We can handle losing a LB.
That probably helped more than hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
All Bielema showed was that he could only win 7 regular season games max with NFL players all over the roster
Some people can’t help it... they HAVE to complain. Instead of being happy or proud that we got Whop, Guidry, Murphy, Heath, Crumedy, Mayden, Dolla Bill, Spivey, Webb, Johnson, Robinson and Crumbest... they have to moan and whine about Mason and Carvin. Maybe a 17 year old kid prefers a different university or likes a position coach freaking more. Who cares!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
These same recruiting experts have Dolla Bill and Murphy both 3star .. which is a crimeQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It?s all about perception. Again we signed the top 4 players from the state ..
Dolla bill
Heath
Murphy
Crumedy
And they?d trade our class for theirs no questions asked right now. Not even debatable. What our staff did in December was really impressive. Getting whop. Holding onto Guidry and heath over Florida. Keeping mayden. Fighting off tenn for Murphy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
But no, let?s focus on and freak out over losing an out of state kid to Arkansas.
Now watch those studs put us in the top 10 next season and I can guaran -damn -tee you Joe ain't gonna let that opportunity slip away like Dom Mifflin did in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
This kid is gonna get run ragged in Fayetteville. He is probably going to play very early there however. In any case, we seem to be the targeted program to pick off recruits from.
We all would. That would be closing on our five remaining targets. Not happening. We?re not batting a 1.000 with a new staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yep. Dolla Bill, Murphy and Mayden should all be 4 stars. Where would that put our class rank then? Top 20 for sure. Here's another player nobody is talking about that I think is vastly underrated and that's La'damian Webb, I think the kid has potential to be a beast in Joe's offense.We got a lot of pieces we needed in this class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Surely you know the difference between home state kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
We're going to get who we get. There is nothing any of us can do about the final signees and the final number. Jump on board and get excited about the 2018 season. Once we start rolling up wins, we'll gain some more momentum. There are some that spend way too much time being negative and thinking that maybe bitching on here will change the outcome of the class. Shut up, wait til Signing Day and try to say something positive.
Lets not act like Bielema drastically underachieved. I know you do not want to hear this but Arkansas is a very difficult job in the modern day landscape of college football. You have money, but not a lot of readily available talent. An SEC school that is comparable to this is Tennessee, but they have much more allure than Arkansas, and are located near many high talent areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by WPS
Bobby Petrino has a way of lifting fans' expectations above what they should be. He did it at Louisville and he did it at Arkansas. Outside of him, Bielema did the same type thing Nutt did, which is probably closer to the mean.
Bielema was close to getting it done, just never got over the hump. 2014 and 2015 will always be what-if type seasons.
I am not big on the Chad Morris hire. Just my own personal opinion. I do like that we will recruit Texas. I still say you should have brought Malzahn home, or paid Mike Norvell.
We should never lose out in a recruit to Arky east of the Mississippi. I will say though that this new Arky staff is a better recruiting staff than Burt had but still.
I get that we've been better than Arky lately but to act like we are just vastly superior in every way is a little far fetched. Morris is a good coach and the SEC West is going to be the best coached division in CFB outside of the Ogre. Moorhead is unproven but from all accounts and the team he has he should do very well. Arky has the same SEC money we do, good facilities and a passionate fanbase. They arent pond scum.
It does suck to lose the kid but I wish him well at Arkansas or wherever he goes. We will be ok, as its been said we can still close with an OL and a CB.
Why? To a 17 year old kid, who probably wanted his whole life to go to Alabama or Auburn, there isn’t one iota difference between State and Arkansas. It’s not like we lost him to UAB.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgclub99
The kid committed to play for Ron Cooper as his position coach. Let that sink in
The question now is does our staff have the ability to go pick off another schools commit that didn't sign early. We could use some counter punch right about now.
Players drafted in the last 10 years:Quote:
Originally Posted by 5049
LSU 62
Alabama 58
Florida 56
Georgia 52
Arkansas 37
We don't have Alabama talent but he sure had a lot of talent to work with in 2014 and squandered it, he had one of the worst winning percentages in school history for a reason. We have the most players in the Super Bowl of any SEC team. Bielema was much worse than Nutt was. I guess I just don't see how having the most conference blowouts of any coach in Arkansas history in year 5 is close to getting it done.
Those draft picks are heavily weighted towards 5+ years ago before the TCU went to the Big 12, & A&M & Mizzou went the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by WPS
Probably 90% of the posters on this board don't remember Cooper when he coached for Sherrill as DC. Total disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
It's amazing to me that no matter how much we win or lose our recruiting profile does not change.
College football is an odd animal
Y'all think this is bad... just wait until Joe's name is mentioned in a coaching search by some lazy reporter who hasn't even done any research. That thread will be 10 pages long and the front page of the board will be about that.
I just hope Cohen thought this "recruiting thing" through before making the hire & didn't out smart himself.
If Pruitt is sitting there with a top 10 roster in 3 years, I'm gonna throw up
Time will tell
We will continue to lose guys until we learn how to play the game better. Period. End of story.
Don?t expect us to crack the top 15-20 classes in the next few years until we learn the tricks of the trade. Six figure Jobs for parents is a good start and the method On and Bama use. Hard to prove anything with those tactics. Bottom line is we don?t have the alumnus wealth as other programs and we will fall further behind now that the ncaa has opened the flood gates. Maybe we will step up but I?ll wait to comment until after it starts to happen efficiently and in untraceable manners.
My God... I’m just sorry I helped keep this stupid thread going. It’s like talking to an ignorant brick wall. Well I hope Cohen sees that Joe held onto Guidry, Heath, Whop & Murphy. What a bleak life you must lead.
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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Careful not to show your hand too early Shotgun. Pruitt gonna have a shitty offense every year with shitty QBs while Moorhead is top 20 every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Maybe we should give this staff more than 2 months on the job and wait til after signing day before saying they can?t recruit.
Agree and that’s my hope. However, it’s hard to win anything of significance with 15-25 type talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I just hope that Pruitt stinks as bad as we think he will as a head coach.
We play Tennessee once every 7 years. Who gives a shit about Pruitt. We need a great offensive coach here not a Saban wannabe minus the brilliant Saban mind. Pruitt is gonna have a meltdown. It's obvious that dude has a serious temper. Let Moorhead have a full year before you cast him to the permanent 15-25 mark in recruiting (which btw those rankings are total bullshit anyways with intent #1 on selling more subscriptions to the largest fanbases). I suggest you pick up another hobby besides college football during the off-season. There's literally unlimited options in this world.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
NM
Looks like ark is getting both brule and foucha at safety also.