Drama At Calloway

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Yep. Most schools work to cover up. We give ourselves up. But we'll always have fans that are happy losing. We're like the damn Cubs.

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So you are impressed with OM and their cheating? What the hell makes you think they do such a great job cheating? How many West titles and SEC Championships have they won recently?

Oh, when the hat is passed around I wonder how much you will be willing to contribute to the fund and make Msu a better football program? Don't think our Prez and AD agree with what you are thinking, me neither, just saying.

P.S. I have not a clue who James Williams is as for as a difference maker but I sure as hell ain't gonna go to nuts over losing him.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I also tend to agree that we shouldn’t go overboard but Ole Miss giving the NCAA a big “F U” and their obvious continued antics put us in a losing position in recruiting battles. IF the NCAA won’t do its job and protect amateurism, we have no choice if we want to compete. I know people probably don’t think this about me personally, but I think pay for play is an awful idea. It creates a situation where inmates are running the asylum. That can’t happen.

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Why don't we wait till they are done with their repeat offender window before we go overboard, even a little. Y'all are also forgetting that we aren't done with ours yet.

Rosebowl says that Williams sent MSU a screen shot of his signed MSU LOI but never faxed it.

Really odd story.

Seems like OM may have attempted to play a game in hopes that it would get MSU mad and help flip Heath.

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Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs

You dumb? Say you dumb. This mentality is exactly what got those idiots a ONE year bowl ban.

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FIFY

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Originally Posted by basedog

So you are impressed with OM and their cheating? What the hell makes you think they do such a great job cheating? How many West titles and SEC Championships have they won recently?

Oh, when the hat is passed around I wonder how much you will be willing to contribute to the fund and make Msu a better football program? Don't think our Prez and AD agree with what you are thinking, me neither, just saying.

P.S. I have not a clue who James Williams is as for as a difference maker but I sure as hell ain't gonna go to nuts over losing him.

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How many have we won. How many times have we lost to them since they started the full out cheating? Does it matter if we finish in 5th place and them in 6th if we lose to them? And I'm not just talking about OM. We aren't winning the SEC with recruiting classes in the 25 range. Hell, Vandy is within shouting distance of us this year.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Why don't we wait till they are done with their repeat offender window before we go overboard, even a little. Y'all are also forgetting that we aren't done with ours yet.

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We're done in 6 months. Then let it roll!

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

How many have we won. How many times have we lost to them since they started the full out cheating? Does it matter if we finish in 5th place and them in 6th if we lose to them? And I'm not just talking about OM. We aren't winning the SEC with recruiting classes in the 25 range. Hell, Vandy is within shouting distance of us this year.

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We Damn near won it with classes in the 30's a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

How many have we won. How many times have we lost to them since they started the full out cheating? Does it matter if we finish in 5th place and them in 6th if we lose to them? And I'm not just talking about OM. We aren't winning the SEC with recruiting classes in the 25 range. Hell, Vandy is within shouting distance of us this year.

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We CAN'T cheat like they do. Some of you can't get that through your skulls. The Mississippi media is all over us if they even get a sniff of us cheating. They work to bring us down just as hard as they work to keep UM propped up. It sucks but it is FACT.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We're done in 6 months. Then let it roll!

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See my other post. if that's what you want you do not have MSU's best interests at heart. We CAN'T.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

How many have we won. How many times have we lost to them since they started the full out cheating? Does it matter if we finish in 5th place and them in 6th if we lose to them? And I'm not just talking about OM. We aren't winning the SEC with recruiting classes in the 25 range. Hell, Vandy is within shouting distance of us this year.

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Hey man, you are looking back and not ahead, DM helped evaluate our program, now we have a new Sheriff in town and really it isn't even his recruiting class. Stop all this madness as next year just might be the year we win the west.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

We CAN'T cheat like they do. Some of you can't get that through your skulls. The Mississippi media is all over us if they even get a sniff of us cheating. They work to bring us down just as hard as they work to keep UM propped up. It sucks but it is FACT.

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This is a FACT!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Why don't we wait till they are done with their repeat offender window before we go overboard, even a little. Y'all are also forgetting that we aren't done with ours yet.

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Agree with that. I thought ours ended already?

I assume theirs will somehow end before ours considering the severity of our infractions and how unfair their staff were? Brackey add a few years for good measure?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Agree with that. I thought ours ended already?

I assume theirs will somehow end before ours considering the severity of our infractions and how unfair their staff were? Brackey add a few years for good measure?

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Our probation ended in 2015.

We addressed our WR position, that is huge. Championship teams are built inside out though and we have to build our offensive line. We have a good group of starters returning. But this year, we missed on Cole Smith, Carvin, Bleich, and Mcdowell hasn't signed. We only signed 1 next year. This is going to haunt us in 3 years much like WR did this year if we can't go out and find a couple of guys.

D-line is going to be stout next year, but we are losing some guys after next season. Probably 3 to the NFL. We need to sign Lovett and we better hit big in the next class.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Rosebowl says that Williams sent MSU a screen shot of his signed MSU LOI but never faxed it.

Really odd story.

Seems like OM may have attempted to play a game in hopes that it would get MSU mad and help flip Heath.

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This should be made public knowledge cause it is really weird....

Never seen such a melt over 1 guy who couldn't even make it to the all star game.


1 guy and the sky has fallen!

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

Our probation ended in 2015.

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Repeat offender for us ends this coming June. It lasts longer than the probation.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We addressed our WR position, that is huge. Championship teams are built inside out though and we have to build our offensive line. We have a good group of starters returning. But this year, we missed on Cole Smith, Carvin, Bleich, and Mcdowell hasn't signed. We only signed 1 next year. This is going to haunt us in 3 years much like WR did this year if we can't go out and find a couple of guys.

D-line is going to be stout next year, but we are losing some guys after next season. Probably 3 to the NFL. We need to sign Lovett and we better hit big in the next class.

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Agree but a few things to add

- I’m glad Rivers and Autry redshirted

- Signing Elite WRs shorten the field and allow more big plays. Makes having elite OL less necessary

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Originally Posted by Coach

Never seen such a melt over 1 guy who couldn't even make it to the all star game.


1 guy and the sky has fallen!

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Not melting. For me he’s a lot like the Columbus kid last year.

Just an odd, interesting story.

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

Our probation ended in 2015.

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Yeah. I thought it had been over with. Somenpeople listening to OM fans stupidity talking about us still being in repeat offender status.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Hey man, you are looking back and not ahead, DM helped evaluate our program, now we have a new Sheriff in town and really it isn't even his recruiting class. Stop all this madness as next year just might be the year we win the west.

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Absolutely the right perspective. Great post!

Wonder what the HC of Callaway BB, former Rebel, was doing at a certain some ones house late last night?

And word is OM is needing a transcript today on a certain someone because the OM coaches were so sure they would sign that someone that they had never asked for one.

Also a certain someone had to have a picture of himself in his HS uniform in the OM release because they were so sure he would sign, yet they didn't have time to photoshop a Rebel uniform on him. Why would it have to be photoshopped?

Maybe because he never visited there.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

Wonder what the HC of Callaway BB, former Rebel, was doing at a certain some ones house late last night?

And word is OM is needing a transcript today on a certain someone because the OM coaches were so sure they would sign that someone that they had never asked for one.

Also a certain someone had to have a picture of himself in his HS uniform in the OM release because they were so sure he would sign, yet they didn't have time to photoshop a Rebel uniform on him. Why would it have to be photoshopped?

Maybe because he never visited there.

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From my unscientific observations over the years, these kids don’t pan out.

They are typically too flaky and undisciplined to reach their potential.

Odd story though.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Yeah. I thought it had been over with. Somenpeople listening to OM fans stupidity talking about us still being in repeat offender status.

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The repeat offender clock starts when the NCAA releases its report, which for us was June 2013. It goes for 5 years beginning on that date.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The repeat offender clock starts when the NCAA releases its report, which for us was June 2013. It goes for 5 years beginning on that date.

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I knew we should’ve grabbed a few more kids in May 2013.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

Wonder what the HC of Callaway BB, former Rebel, was doing at a certain some ones house late last night?

And word is OM is needing a transcript today on a certain someone because the OM coaches were so sure they would sign that someone that they had never asked for one.

Also a certain someone had to have a picture of himself in his HS uniform in the OM release because they were so sure he would sign, yet they didn't have time to photoshop a Rebel uniform on him. Why would it have to be photoshopped?

Maybe because he never visited there.

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Brutal.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

It also got them two Sugar Bowls.

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Sugar Bowls lost their luster when the SEC Champ stopped automatically going there. Yawn, means about as much as the Orange Bowl and we went there without all the cheating.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Not melting. For me he?s a lot like the Columbus kid last year.

Just an odd, interesting story.

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Someone needs to look into this story... PROMISE it is very interesting... Check the text messages.

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Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies

Someone needs to look into this story... PROMISE it is very interesting... Check the text messages.

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Meh. I just don’t see a record of these types of kids panning out.

I realize that may sound like sour grapes but Williams’ character and ability to handle pressure wasn’t displayed until today. Today revealed it and the track record of these kids is poor. Probably a blessing we didn’t get him.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Rosebowl says that Williams sent MSU a screen shot of his signed MSU LOI but never faxed it.

Really odd story.

Seems like OM may have attempted to play a game in hopes that it would get MSU mad and help flip Heath.

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Sounds like the fiasco Luke and New Hope Landsharte fan Steve Ruth pulled last year with the hat toss. We see how that worked out for those New Hope Landsharte fans. Recruit steals 10 weapons from Ruth after signing day.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Hammered, at least to me, means your program is severely crippled. Bowl bans and vacated wins don't do that. Scholarship reductions DO which they got very little of.

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How about being a 5-7, 6-6 program now, and for the next three years, after being a 9-3 team in 2014 and 2015? That's the route some people on here are saying we should take. SMH.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

Wonder what the HC of Callaway BB, former Rebel, was doing at a certain some ones house late last night?

And word is OM is needing a transcript today on a certain someone because the OM coaches were so sure they would sign that someone that they had never asked for one.

Also a certain someone had to have a picture of himself in his HS uniform in the OM release because they were so sure he would sign, yet they didn't have time to photoshop a Rebel uniform on him. Why would it have to be photoshopped?

Maybe because he never visited there.

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What the f are you saying. Just speak in plain english.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What the f are you saying. Just speak in plain english.

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He pretty much did.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

He pretty much did.

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too many threads to try and decipher what he is saying. he used "certain someone" 4 times and never used anyone's name in the post.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

Wonder what the HC of Callaway BB, former Rebel, was doing at a certain some ones house late last night?

And word is OM is needing a transcript today on a certain someone because the OM coaches were so sure they would sign that someone that they had never asked for one.

Also a certain someone had to have a picture of himself in his HS uniform in the OM release because they were so sure he would sign, yet they didn't have time to photoshop a Rebel uniform on him. Why would it have to be photoshopped?

Maybe because he never visited there.

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Was this HC the High School HC of Football or Basketball???? Or was an OM coach present?

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We failed to address a lot of needs. We had a great WR class and some nice players, but we whiffed at OL for the 2nd year in a row minus Dolla. Looks like we waited too late on the new recruit too. Lost Bleich. Hall didn't sign. We didn't address our CB issues either really. I mean, we're currently at 5th in our division in recruiting. OM is only 10 spots back. Thank goodness for Arkansas.
We've got to be better if we want to win big. The NCAA is done penalizing programs. It's time to do something different.

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I?ll say this, if we have to do what you are saying I?d just assume lose. Cheating to win the way those assclowns went about it isn?t really winning. It?s appearing to win. It?s why they only sport a championship awarded from dunken-Hines during the pre civil rights era.

If that is what you aspire to, there are plenty of teams you can follow to get it. If that?s the only way we can, I can live with not following football.

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Originally Posted by gravedigger

I?ll say this, if we have to do what you are saying I?d just assume lose. Cheating to win the way those assclowns went about it isn?t really winning. It?s appearing to win. It?s why they only sport a championship awarded from dunken-Hines during the pre civil rights era.

If that is what you aspire to, there are plenty of teams you can follow to get it. If that?s the only way we can, I can live with not following football.

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If absolutely everyone does it then is it really cheating?

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What the f are you saying. Just speak in plain english.

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I shouldn't have to clear this up for you but since I need to explain, he said "a certain SOMEONE did a certain SOMETHING at a certain TIME for another certain SOMEONE at a certain PLACE". Seems clear as mud to me. **

Bottom line on this deal
Saying it's shady as **** is an understatement.
And this isn't the first rodeo that's OM has done this
DL from La Godchaux (sp) that at ended up at Lsu anyway
DB from fla DJ Law that was on his way to Utah but ended up juco at emcc

So best of luck in juco JW .. you will prob have to mend some fences to get back in the fold here in 2 years ..

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Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg

Sounds like the fiasco Luke and New Hope Landsharte fan Steve Ruth pulled last year with the hat toss. We see how that worked out for those New Hope Landsharte fans. Recruit steals 10 weapons from Ruth after signing day.

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i wonder if the NCAA even bothered with that weird turn of events?