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[QUOTE=Maroon Wizardry;858947]... its gonna be better than fried chicken[/QUOTES TE]
This is. Lie as there is no such thing better than fried chicken.
He was leaving but he would?ve drug UT along just like he was us. I?ve even heard he told Chip Kelly to not take the UF job and then took it 2 weeks later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I wouldn?t shit in his mouth if he was starving to death.
Yeah, that Don Merlenz is a hell of a guy. He's a snake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Your first sentence is laughable. Omg. You honestly don't believe that do you? Dear Goodness. Just no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Don't have an issue with Stricklin. He did a lot of good for MSU and landed one of the top jobs in his field. 39 national championships vs 0... Now he's under enormous pressure to perform, and after being rejected by Chip Kelly gets desperate and hires someone who he thinks boosters will be comfortable with.
Mullen also did a lot of good for MSU and was ready for a new challenge. Sucks that he left, but were we expecting him to be the next Joe Paterno? Also, it is slimy that he's stealing recruits, but if we were stealing 4 and 5 star guys from Penn State, we'd be celebrating. Moorhead can take the high road for now because he's not under the same pressure Mullen is.
In sports, the only people with true loyalty are the fans... Not many athletes, coaches, or admin have loyalty to a team or university. Just how it is.
I have an issue with Stricklin. A big issue. That ********** is an alumni of MSU and married to the daughter of one of the most famous alums in MSU sports history. And what, he couldn't be bothered to stick around and try to make MSU better? **** him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaver
Ditto with Mullen. He could have been here forever and was set to go on a run at MSU that he'd never had before, then quit to run off to a place that will NEVER appreciate him like we did. His ass is going to get fired with 5 years and I will not have the slightest shred of sorrow for him when it does.
Dear goodness yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Don and Cheerleader were a foregone conclusion in late August, early September 2016. Why won?t people just accept that fact? All events and timelines prove it.
Keenum and a large portion of our cigar boys were fed up with the country club and the CC walking all over Strick. They were working on an out from Don before the season started. That?s why we did not offer the usual yearly extension.
It?s well known that you don?t hire Jimmy Sexton if you aren?t looking for a gig other than the one you currently have. Was it coincidence that Sexton?s services were retained between Cheerleader leaving for Florida and Cohen being named AD?
Bottom line, why is it so difficult for most people to connect boulder sized dots and figure out what played out before their very eyes? Are most of our citizens blind and/or naive? That?s the only explanation.
We will be better off in the end and can all raise a glass when the CC and Cheerleader are renting Uhauls out of Gainesville.
I know for a fact that when the UF job came open in October that the MSU administration went into Defcon 5 and moved to have back up plans in place. I can't speak to the UT job, but from 30k feet, it looks like they were a short bus pawn in Mullen to UF (along with about 10 other coaches to other jobs). And let's not forget that Gundy was UF's third choice and Mullen the fourth. Because Mullets > *******.
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Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Scott doesn't represent a lot of what's wrong with Mississippi, he represents a lot of what is right in Mississippi. UF has an enormous alumni base and massive financial capabilities and they have to come one of the poorest states in the nation and pay seven figures to find someone to run it for them.
We can agree that poaching the head coach is a bunch of BS, but what is wrong with Mississippi is why successful people leave the state. At MSU, outsiders want to hire the alumni and administration. You don't see that happening in Oxford or Hattiesburg.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Matt Luke wouldn't leave for Alabama, Ohio St., or Texas with a 1 million dollar raise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
"Our" people on the other hand....
This is my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Msu has to do better, but for some reason an ultra logical, conservative, inferiority complex set into our fan base many years ago that sets us back.
It?s extremely strange.
MSU people build up these other places to be better, but, as someone that has been to all of them, they aren’t. It’s an illusion built in the minds of MSU people because some media guy tells you that.
This. Some things just don't make a lot of sense to me. I guess some just look at their university as a place to get educated then maybe if all falls into place , just another job if you were hired in some capacity at your school. Unless they 17'd me over or something, it would be more than just a job to me if I worked for MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
But that's just me. I guess that's the way things go when you are born to parents with maroon blood.
I'm not waiting 2 years. I just wish it had been last spring when Mullen left and we got Moorhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
doesn't matter - I'm male and I'm glad he's gone ...... Cohen is light years ahead of Stricklin and Mullenz had peakedQuote:
Originally Posted by was21
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Mullen knew his time at State was up. We, the fans and Cohen/Keenum, expected more than an 8-4 season, an EB ass beating half the time and sub-par recruiting by coaches that should have been already fired years before for shitastic coaching and lazy recruiting. It took him nine years to field a team that played Bama late into the 4th quarter with a chance to still win.
Strickland could have taken the approach like we did in that Moorhead said he wouldn't recruit the current Penn St commitments. It all goes back to what Keenum said, we got a coach with Integrity. I think that was a shot at Mullen. I hope Moorhead doesn't hold MSU hostage every year getting a raise just because there is a job opening.
I agree with you Shotgun. My daughter started a business while she was at State and she is now working with another startup company. They were recently at a convention and talked with one of the owners of Cathead Vodka and he stated that Mississippi produces some great people and they all leave and that nothing will change until more decide to stay and make improvements. He convinced them to keep their business in the state.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
In regards to Stricklin I don't have a problem with him being an AD at another school but it was a dick move to use his alma mater as a stepping stone. It sent the message to everyone that worked under him at State that loyalty doesn't matter and to always chase the better job no matter the consequences. Thankfully we have an AD now that completely loves Mississippi State and I don't think has any desire to leave. And he's from Tuscaloosa so **** you Bama.
My impression is, State doesn’t have enough cigar boys to cover all the bases and put out all the fires. ....apply the pressure when it needs to be applied and have the funds to back it up...or willingness to spend the money. (Not that I’m judging, just pointing out fact). They have to pick and choose their battles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
But yeah, we have the most passive fan base of any sec school outside Vandy.
Matt Luke wouldn't get the opportunity. And neither did Hugh Freeze.
But I'm glad you know things that Matt Luke would hypothetically do, Marty McFly. I need some help with some betting.
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Originally Posted by Spiderman
I don't think MSU is inferior and I think its success the last 30 or so years proves that.
Mississippi as a state is inferior, and MSU can't fix that.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Yeah- Hack is wrong on this one. Mullen was going to Tenn until Florida stepped in.
And of course- I was right which is the case more times than not
Yep- and Mullen's bailing cost the Tenn AD his jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Bodaski
Ole’ gump fans gonna believe the gump mantra. Oopty ooped again. We are M State.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You can believe what you were told. I don’t. We got played. So did UT.
Stricklin has done 2 great things...1. Go to Florida 2. Hire Mullen to Florida. I can’t be happier. Been wanting Mullen gone for yrs. everyone else finally coming around to it.
Country club crootin tidbit...in the 2011-15 recruiting classes we signed 38 guys that were SEC caliber contributors. That’s 38 in 5 classes. Great work Mullen. ****ing shitbag.
How is SEC Caliber Contributor defined?
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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
I have to disagree. Dan was never going to be back in Starkville next year, NEVER! Has everybody forgotten how hard Dan pimped himself out after the Belk Bowl, desperate for the HC job at Maryland then Miami, and then hoping and praying for a call from Georgia that never came. Also, Dan?s desperate attempt to escape Post Dak helped kill our recruiting class. Last year?s 6-7 record kept him in Vegas another year but he was going to cash in on this year?s 8-4 team by getting the heck out of dodge and that is just the way it happened. To think Dan was going to sign our extension is foolish, he never wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Let's just be completely honest. Dan was trying to leave after the 2010 season. And had he not been an arrogant ass in his interview he would have been the new head coach at Miami in 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
The guy played meaningful snaps for more than just a few games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Harbor
You could almost see it every year that he would have a good year going and then tank at the end because he was trying to jump ship. The next year he would have a down year and have to prove himself again. If Miami had not opened up when it did then he would have been the head coach at Maryland. I heard a $5 Mil per year number thrown around then. He tried to drag them out like he did us every year but they just said screw it. He actually was able to get UF only because they struck out on 3 or 4 other guys and UF panicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
You obviously didn’t read my post. He was leaving. I agree. But he was playing games with us and TN while working Florida back door.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
The idea of him only leaving for ND or PSU was a fan fable many of us created. He would have left us for Maryland or even UConn if the money had been right. If that bastard had worried more about building the program than building a resume for another job, which would have meant "relentless" recruiting and firing your coaching buds that sucked ass, we'd have beaten Bama more than once in his tenure and probably would have had at last one legit top 10 recruiting class. The way he squandered Dak's Heisman buzz and that #1 season is unforgivable. But, then again he thought he'd be coaching elsewhere when NSD rolled around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Yep I agree 100%, finally.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg