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11-24-2017, 01:30 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Venables and Clark would both be good hires. I think Venables could be the equivalent of Kirby Smart given his background. And Bill Clark has been a successful HC in multiple places. I would take either of those in a heartbeat if Dan left.

I like Venables. Correct me if Im wrong but isnt Clark an older guy?
11-24-2017, 01:36 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

After the coaching job last night, I'm ready for him to go. I've been a big fan of Dan and think he has done a tremendous job getting us to where we are. I also believe he has topped out and both he and State need a change. It's just time. I could go into a lot more detail but surely you see that Dan is consistently getting out coached now.

Hey Todd... this is why I post things I post. Unreal...
11-24-2017, 01:36 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg496

We're okay with people ripping premium content and posting it here?

No reference to the above, but I have seen that in the past on here. I'm not going to do it as I don't thiink it's ethitical or fair to site author(s), administatrator(s), or the other paid subscribers. To each their own I guess.
11-24-2017, 01:37 PM
MetEdDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I like Venables. Correct me if Im wrong but isnt Clark an older guy?

He’s 49. But he has a ton of connections in Alabama high school. He’s had a similar career path to Malzahn. Started out in high school and worked his way up. Malzahn just went faster.
11-24-2017, 01:38 PM
Cooterpoot

I wouldn't want a defensive guy. It's an offensive game now. No D guy is going to want to run a high powered passing attack or fast paced offense. They generally go pro style and we can't recruit for that.
11-24-2017, 01:41 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

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I was told earlier this week that Tennessee had requested permission to speak with Mullen. I understand that Tennessee was told that Dan would not be available for any interviews until after the game.
I'm told today that Mullen will speak with Tennessee today. In fact, as I understand it they will fly down and pick him up for that chat.
My understanding is that it is not a done deal and that Mullen has been receptive to talk of an extension, more money for Grantham and assistants.
He has a decision to make and I'm told it won't take him long.
I have been informed that In the event that State has to hire a new football coach that it would take place very quickly as in possibly ten days or so.
While steps have been taken to retain Mullen, all of the eggs aren't all in Dan's basket. I'm told the MSU administration has already had some feelers out and that they have already been vetting potential candidates.
Some names I've heard mentioned are Neal Brown at Troy, Mike Norvell at Memphis, Bill Clark at UAB, Brent Venables at Clemson, Barry Odom at Missouri and Jeremy Pruitt at Alabama among others.
Mullen said in post game that he planned to be here next year. I'm told he's happy with the direction of the program, but feels he owes it to himself and his family to get the best deal possible wether that be here or elsewhere
I can assure you John Cohen and Dr Keenum are bring proactive on both fronts. It should be an interesting week no matter how it turns out.

Same shit I said last night. You're welcome and thank you for reading Elitedawgs

Actually it's not................and Steve waited till today. You deserved the flak you took.
11-24-2017, 01:47 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I wouldn't want a defensive guy. It's an offensive game now. No D guy is going to want to run a high powered passing attack or fast paced offense. They generally go pro style and we can't recruit for that.

I think you need a defensive HC that hires a good OC and staff and lets them do their thing. Defense wins championships not the air raid
11-24-2017, 01:51 PM
BankerDog

My final list of coaches if it comes to it:

James Franklin, only making $4.6 at Penn State. Would he wanna come back to the SEC? He is worth $6M.

Dave Doeren, NC State. Offensive guy. Runs a development program similar to Mullen. His play calling is really creative.

Bill Clark, UAB. Lots of connections through AL high schools. Believe he would be pretty good hire.

Mike Norvell, Memphis. Obvious reasons but has he just taken Fuente's talent and bummed off of it? Can he recruit?

Matt Campbell, Iowa State. Beat Oklahoma with a third team QB. They recruit MS pretty heavily.

Dana Holgorensen, WV. Have been told there is some interest from Dana if it opens up. Has a child in Pisgah. Offensive minded coach.

I also think Venerables and Pruitt would be okay.
11-24-2017, 01:51 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I wouldn't want a defensive guy. It's an offensive game now. No D guy is going to want to run a high powered passing attack or fast paced offense. They generally go pro style and we can't recruit for that.

Have you watched a high school game in the last 15 years? There are almost 0 teams running anything close to that in this state. It’s either the wing t or a variant of that or it’s the spread. Who is running the “pro style” offense in the SEC? Let’s check, Arkansas, that’s working out well now isn’t it.
11-24-2017, 01:54 PM
Goldendawg

Only reason I clicked on this was because of the title "Rosebowl Say". After last night will not be clicking any threads started by C34. This site seems to be more about him now than MSU. Hail State!
11-24-2017, 02:04 PM
Martianlander

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

This is a reactionary dumbass post, Jesus dude that was the cheapest of cheap shots and we turned it over 6 times. Had to coach your way out of that.

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.
11-24-2017, 02:11 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.

Go look at the stats. Things would have been better if Dan hadn't turned the ball over 5 times. Why can't he hold on to the ball?
11-24-2017, 02:13 PM
Goldendawg

Stayed to the end. You could tell when UNM hit the field they wanted it more that us. Not unusual. I don't want losing seasons of "Well it's ok as long as we beat Ole Miss, but we will never get 9 to 10 wins if we don't.
11-24-2017, 02:28 PM
sack07

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.

What game did you watch?
11-24-2017, 02:34 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by MzTerry

Bill Clark would be an absolute winner here

I disagree. I think he would he would win big here. He's good for UAB but I don't think he would be a good fit for what we want to do unless we're OK with staying where we are or going backwards.
11-24-2017, 02:38 PM
Spiderman

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Steve Robertson 69346 posts
2 hours ago
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I was told earlier this week that Tennessee had requested permission to speak with Mullen. I understand that Tennessee was told that Dan would not be available for any interviews until after the game.
I'm told today that Mullen will speak with Tennessee today. In fact, as I understand it they will fly down and pick him up for that chat.
My understanding is that it is not a done deal and that Mullen has been receptive to talk of an extension, more money for Grantham and assistants.
He has a decision to make and I'm told it won't take him long.
I have been informed that In the event that State has to hire a new football coach that it would take place very quickly as in possibly ten days or so.
While steps have been taken to retain Mullen, all of the eggs aren't all in Dan's basket. I'm told the MSU administration has already had some feelers out and that they have already been vetting potential candidates.
Some names I've heard mentioned are Neal Brown at Troy, Mike Norvell at Memphis, Bill Clark at UAB, Brent Venables at Clemson, Barry Odom at Missouri and Jeremy Pruitt at Alabama among others.
Mullen said in post game that he planned to be here next year. I'm told he's happy with the direction of the program, but feels he owes it to himself and his family to get the best deal possible wether that be here or elsewhere
I can assure you John Cohen and Dr Keenum are bring proactive on both fronts. It should be an interesting week no matter how it turns out.

Same shit I said last night. You're welcome and thank you for reading Elitedawgs

Clark, Venables, Pruitt, and Odom?

Odom? Odom? ODOM??? Fooking ODOM???!!!

Lost me there, and any credibility I thought he had as far as insider info on any thing coaching wise.

And if we can't do better than those 4 names, I'm done, investment wise.
11-24-2017, 02:40 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

Clark, Venables, Pruitt, and Odom?

Odom? Odom? ODOM??? Fooking ODOM???!!!

Lost me there, and any credibility I thought he had as far as insider info on any thing coaching wise.

And if we can't do better than those 4 names, I'm done, investment wise.

Odom has been outstanding this year at mizzou after the awful start. I would rather go another route, but he is acquitting himself well so far
11-24-2017, 02:46 PM
Spiderman

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Odom has been outstanding this year at mizzou after the awful start. I would rather go another route, but he is acquitting himself well so far

You think he would leave Mizzou for State even if for some wacko reason we wanted to hire him?
He's a Mizzou alum who has been coaching there all but 2 of the last about 15 years.
11-24-2017, 02:46 PM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.

Dude, just stop. We turned it over 5 times, dropped at least 2 sure interceptions and our star QB got injured 5 minutes into the game. We didn’t lose because of coaching.
11-24-2017, 02:46 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Go look at the stats. Things would have been better if Dan hadn't turned the ball over 5 times. Why can't he hold on to the ball?

Agree Liverpool -- we only OUTGAINED TCUN by almost 150 yards despite losing one of the best playmakers in the SEC. 2 of the 5 TO's being practically inside the red-zone obviously didn't hurt us any. C'mon Martian, that's some absurd sh!t right there.
11-24-2017, 02:50 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

My final list of coaches if it comes to it:

James Franklin, only making $4.6 at Penn State. Would he wanna come back to the SEC? He is worth $6M.

Dave Doeren, NC State. Offensive guy. Runs a development program similar to Mullen. His play calling is really creative.

Bill Clark, UAB. Lots of connections through AL high schools. Believe he would be pretty good hire.

Mike Norvell, Memphis. Obvious reasons but has he just taken Fuente's talent and bummed off of it? Can he recruit?

Matt Campbell, Iowa State. Beat Oklahoma with a third team QB. They recruit MS pretty heavily.

Dana Holgorensen, WV. Have been told there is some interest from Dana if it opens up. Has a child in Pisgah. Offensive minded coach.

I also think Venerables and Pruitt would be okay.

How about Fuente? He's making $3.5M now at Va Tech with a contract that will pay him $4M ... in 6 years. We could certainly afford him.

http://www.roanoke.com/hokies/virgin...1ebf26643.html
11-24-2017, 03:49 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Martianlander

So Dan didn't get out coached.
1. A team that hadn't run the ball all year ran all over us.
2. A team that was so/so in protecting the quarterback, for the most part gave him time to throw.
3. A defense that has been terrible against the run all year stopped us when they needed to.
4. A defense that has been average at best against the pass stopped us. Yes you can argue that was because Fitz was out, but that's only part of the story. We should have been able to complete short passes. Mullen was not prepared for this.
5. Their poor offensive line outplayed us.
6. Their poor defensive line outplayed us.
7. Other than the blocked punt I don't believe we even had an advantage on special teams.
Dan got out coached.

Good grief did you even watch the gsme? Holy shit this is brutal. No point I'm busting holes in most of this, your stupidity has already been proven.
11-24-2017, 03:53 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Good grief did you even watch the gsme? Holy shit this is brutal. No point I'm busting holes in most of this, your stupidity has already been proven.

+1
11-24-2017, 03:53 PM
Bully13

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Good grief did you even watch the gsme? Holy shit this is brutal. No point I'm busting holes in most of this, your stupidity has already been proven.

Honesty = brutality? He made good points but all you can do is call him stupid? Face it, Matt Luke had his team fired up and Dan did not.
11-24-2017, 03:54 PM
Bully13

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11-24-2017, 03:55 PM
DudyDawg

Also didn?t have our top 4 receivers again. Surely didn?t help Key
11-24-2017, 04:08 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Honesty = brutality? He made good points but all you can do is call him stupid? Face it, Matt Luke had his team fired up and Dan did not.

Ok well then I'll add you then, team ran all over us??? Really they had 2 running plays for 68 yard. Ran it 30 times for 111. That's running all over us? 2, we sacked him 4 times. 2 for 2 in dumb ass. 3, we ran for 275 had our backup qb in. So whatever you think. 4, see 3. 5, they had 350 total yards, we busted one coverage and gave up 2 more huge passing plays, if you want to say their wr's outplayed our db's yes but the previously mentioned stats prove your point to be wrong, again. 6. See earlier point. 7. We did block a punt that counts. Everything else was a draw on st. As I said to him and now I'm asking you since you came running to his defense, did you watch the damn game or what? Ok Dan sucks. Right whatever. Carry on.
11-24-2017, 04:09 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

Honesty = brutality? He made good points but all you can do is call him stupid? Face it, Matt Luke had his team fired up and Dan did not.

delete
11-24-2017, 04:22 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Ok well then I'll add you then, team ran all over us??? Really they had 2 running plays for 68 yard. Ran it 30 times for 111. That's running all over us? 2, we sacked him 4 times. 2 for 2 in dumb ass. 3, we ran for 275 had our backup qb in. So whatever you think. 4, see 3. 5, they had 350 total yards, we busted one coverage and gave up 2 more huge passing plays, if you want to say their wr's outplayed our db's yes but the previously mentioned stats prove your point to be wrong, again. 6. See earlier point. 7. We did block a punt that counts. Everything else was a draw on st. As I said to him and now I'm asking you since you came running to his defense, did you watch the damn game or what? Ok Dan sucks. Right whatever. Carry on.

There are many here that don’t know crap about football.
11-24-2017, 04:50 PM
Bully13

I'm not saying Dan sux or want him gone. He let Matt Luke bring in a more inspired team than he did. I'm tried of losing important games like this. Dan needs to learn how to prepare his team when there are targets on their backs. I hope and think he can learn how to do so.
11-24-2017, 04:52 PM
DudyDawg

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Originally Posted by Bully13

I'm not saying Dan sux or want him gone. He let Matt Luke bring in a more inspired team than he did. I'm tried of losing important games like this. Dan needs to learn how to prepare his team when there are targets on their backs. I hope and think he can learn how to do so.

How can anyone say they were more inspired. They had a big play to open the score and then nick went out. Completely sucked emotion out of the team and crowd. Not easy to come back from that kind of injury in any sport. Yet we almost did. If we had quit and it remained a blowout I would be more inclined to semi-agree. Team deserves a ton of credit for fighting for 60 minutes.
11-24-2017, 04:55 PM
Commercecomet24

It?s simple if they don?t take Nick out we win. Period. We knew they would come out fired up and they always score early. We weathered that as they only had 10 at the half and Nick would?ve pounded them from the second quarter on.
11-24-2017, 04:56 PM
VandelayIndustries

Not sure how reliable this tweet is but saw this from @Vol Nugs:

Anonymous Football Staff Submission: 110% chance Mullen will not be coaching here. We were told this today. No other info on who guy is
11-24-2017, 05:03 PM
Turfdawg67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bully13

Honesty = brutality? He made good points but all you can do is call him stupid? Face it, Matt Luke had his team fired up and Dan did not.

Yes, Dan had our team fired up... the stupidity of you posters is amazing. Dan didn't intentionally break our QBs leg, Dan didn't turn the ball over 5 times and Dan didn't drop a pick six. But besides all that Dan's offense had 502 yards and lost by 3 pts.
11-24-2017, 05:05 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Ok well then I'll add you then, team ran all over us??? Really they had 2 running plays for 68 yard. Ran it 30 times for 111. That's running all over us? 2, we sacked him 4 times. 2 for 2 in dumb ass. 3, we ran for 275 had our backup qb in. So whatever you think. 4, see 3. 5, they had 350 total yards, we busted one coverage and gave up 2 more huge passing plays, if you want to say their wr's outplayed our db's yes but the previously mentioned stats prove your point to be wrong, again. 6. See earlier point. 7. We did block a punt that counts. Everything else was a draw on st. As I said to him and now I'm asking you since you came running to his defense, did you watch the damn game or what? Ok Dan sucks. Right whatever. Carry on.

+1
11-24-2017, 05:07 PM
WeWonItAll(Most)

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Originally Posted by Bully13

I'm not saying Dan sux or want him gone. He let Matt Luke bring in a more inspired team than he did. I'm tried of losing important games like this. Dan needs to learn how to prepare his team when there are targets on their backs. I hope and think he can learn how to do so.

I thought we were matching their intensity until Fitz got hurt. You could feel the energy leave the stadium when people realized he was hurt.

ETA: and I actually thought the players and the fans did a great job trying to rally and bring the intensity back, but every turnover sucked the intensity right back out again.
11-24-2017, 05:11 PM
Bothrops

If Fitz doesn't get the cheap shot, we win the game. Nobody ever considered the possibility of losing Fitz for this game.
11-24-2017, 05:13 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

If Fitz doesn't get the cheap shot, we win the game. Nobody ever considered the possibility of losing Fitz for this game.

Yep and it?s that simple. We win by 2 scores at least
11-24-2017, 05:26 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by VandelayIndustries

Not sure how reliable this tweet is but saw this from @Vol Nugs:

Anonymous Football Staff Submission: 110% chance Mullen will not be coaching here. We were told this today. No other info on who guy is

C34 says that ain?t right... 9 years, but it over now
11-24-2017, 05:35 PM
Martianlander

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Good grief did you even watch the gsme? Holy shit this is brutal. No point I'm busting holes in most of this, your stupidity has already been proven.

Excuse me guys for dealing in facts. I said at the start I like Dan and give him great credit for our program. He's just become complacent. I hope all of you calling me names are having a good time. I haven't called anyone else a name, just expressing my opinion and backing it up with facts.
I guess you think if you name call name me enough that I'll realize, Dan coached a great game. Glad it was close. Let's throw more money at him so we can lose to Alabama, Auburn, unm, and one or two others.****
If Dan elects to stay, I'm all for him. Will pull for him to win every game next year. My point is sometimes things have just played out and it's best for both parties to move on. Hey sorry if I'm in the minority here. Dan doesn't have the same fire he did when he came here.

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