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Lot of people on here don't like us telling these types of kids that, but then get mad when we don't get them. Not sure what reasonable person would expect a kid to go to a school for 1-2 years and not be expected to get a playing time guarantee.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyMcNulty
No but I think Hev got reassigned over the golden triangle shit show that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Percho
Exactly. If lashley ends up never playing at Bama, he has nobody to blame but himself. The scenarios were laid out clearly for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Maybe some should learn how to draw lines between dots and quit blaming the staff. There is a reason scum is in trouble.
No one at any school?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
this shit gets SO 17ing old with missing OL'S .
my question is if it's NOT Hev's fault, who the 17's fault is it? a MS kid to PITT?
So that's going to be our excuse every time we miss out on a recruit? Bottom line is we needed the kid and our staff didnt close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Percho
17 that. this has become a recurring pattern. and until someone gets sick and 17ing tired of it , the shit will continue. there's no 17ing excuse for it to continue happening time after time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Percho
I thought people felt good about it yesterday. What happened? Why?
I will reiterate my point from the "should we invite AJ back" thread. In the long term one year rentals are detrimental to the team anyway.
This applies to Brandon Hodges in what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
No one should be surprised about this, or any time we lose out on an impact grad transfer. By nature, a grad transfer is almost certainly looking for a guaranteed starting spot. Our standard recruiting pitch, which we don't appear ever to deviate from, is incompatible. Not saying that's an excuse; it simply is what it is. I'm never going to get my hopes up about a potential impact grad transfer no matter how good the news is.
FYI, Lashley was running 2nd string at LT and was considered to be in the conversation to start at RT during this past spring. He's mentioned very favorably by all the Bama radio talking heads. He could very well be a factor even at Bama very soon. And yes, that makes it even worse that we couldn't land him. But all these folks saying he is gonna sit on the bench for 4 years haven't been paying attention at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
What kind of immediate impact would he have even had? Everything these past few weeks has come up State, but we have to bitch about something I guess. Not like we start practice tonight and the season looks to be promising. Not like our arch rivals are in the tank.....
He simply went where his old coach went.
Not the first time it's happened. Remember back in the 70's when a no-good, son of a gun by the name of Jackie Sherrill came down from Pitt and signed 2 of Bob Tyler's prize recruits by the name of Hugh Greene and Rooster Jones. Really hurt our team. Greene was a runner-up Heisman candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
Back to Hodges, he probably asked, "who coaches the OL at MS State and who coaches the OL at Pitt"?. Then he probably said, "think I'll take Pitt". Maybe one of these days Mullen will realize we are never going to be a real good football team until we can get a good OL coach who can recruit and coach the OL.
Yep, Fool me once...but this one seemed like a no brainer- Aberdeen, Emcc, SMH.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
Just a reminder Hev makes over 400k per year.
Not that Hev doesn't deserve plenty of blame for plenty of things but this recruitment was pretty much all DJ's. Blaming Hev now is just a reactionary function. If he signed with us it wouldn't have been good job Hev it would've been thank God for DJ. It sucks to lose the kid though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
The Oline coach is always going to be a major factor with a Oline recruit. Surely you know this. I'm sick of missing on Oline men and WRs. Especially when they are gift wrapped like Hodges was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Hodges is a solid loss. Our inability to recruit OL in his really, really holding us back. This absolutely has to be fixed. It's a very tiring theme.
As someone pointed out, this will make Reese better for next year, which should be our year. But we have to have people step up on the line this year, or we're gonna be toast up front.
Really hoping someone at practice can give us some updates on the OL situation--it's not something we hear a lot about, but that group is going to be so important this year.
I wasn't saying he wasn't but in this particular case it was 90% DJ. Now you can argue that the 10% Hev is what sent him to Pitt. At any rate the kid isn't here.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
did Hodge visit us and Pitt prior to his decision? just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
There's no way to know the percentages. I can say it was 100% Hev and u can't prove me wrong. Regardless I'm tired of the excuses and I'm tired of people defending Hev.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'm NOT a Hev fan. At least not on the recruiting trail....but...the loss of SL was not on Hev. That whole family was ALL BULLDOG up until a few days out. I know this FIRST HAND. You can go figure what changed their minds at the la$t second.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Yea visited bothQuote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
Again I'm just telling you what I know on the subject wasn't trying to change your mind or make excuses for Hev. Just offering info.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
To beat teams like Bama, and LSU, you have to recruit WR's, QB's, and the OL. Well..we're good for 1/3. Sorry but expect similar results when the clock zero's out.
While I often believe things like this, I do not believe Pitt was throwing $$s at a grad transfer who might play for one year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I appreciate the info and I'm not trying to pick on you but u were pretty confident on Hodges so you might have bad info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Agree, that's a BS excuse. Although this Ole Miss stuff might force us to be even more cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Lol definitely did. Like seemingly everyone I talked to. I don't think there was anyone associated with MSU that didn't think Hodges was ours esp when he didn't visit LSU this past weekend. It happens I don't bat 1.000% but I'll let you know what I have & what I've heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
So very true....rep given!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
thanks for the reminder on that one . there is no doubt bamer cheated their ass off on that deal. It's pretty evident there are some lines we are just not going to cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
This is a shock, but what's done is done.
Yep, and there's also nothing that can be done with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
Right. Alabama cheats and doesn't get caught. We aren't going to cross that line, because if we did, we'd sure as heck get caught. So, it continues with no end in sight. Alabama keeps winning and keeps us from getting to Atlanta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Sooner or later Dan needs to do something about Hevesy. Why were we going after a grad transfer in the first place? Because Hevesy failed in recruiting 3-5 years ago. It's not just this- we have a possibility of having only one high school offensive lineman from our 2017 class coming in and that is simply unacceptable. This is why Sallach was pissed off. Stuff like this. And I haven't even mentioned the fact that we are moving our best left guard to center because someone couldn't recruit one.
Every band aid for Hevesy hasn't worked and there are no more options other than to give him a desk job.
Can we get an offensive line coach that can actually just do his job and try to recruit legally first? This isn't a getting outbid issue. It's a someone doesn't want to recruit issue and it's gone on too long issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
Hev should've been gone last year.
Should have been gone long before last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by trob115
Was Scott Sallach part of the "country club?"
As in, should him leaving indicate that Mullen (or possibly Cohen) is starting to have real expectations for coaches' recruiting outcomes?