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Agree, and plus I've heard others talking about how his $315k may make him inelligble when the hammer drops. But I question that as to why wouldn't the ncaa have already pulled the plug on his playing career if they were aware of his $315k recruiting inducement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
As a Bulldog, he turned his back on wearing maroon when he chose TCUN so I don't want him now.
LOL, exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bostondawg
Objectively, he is more of a possession receiver that lacks top end speed to get open against the Bama's and LSU's of the world without playing in a Playstation offense that lets you send OL downfield on passing plays and run infinite bubble screens. He also lacks the size to be a guy that can go up and get it like Derunnya or Alshon Jeffrey or someone like that. He is a very good college receiver, but not some elite NFL prospect. He's probably the 3rd best at OM right now, to put it in perspective. Not worth the drama and headaches that he created by himself to let him on the squad. He ain't that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
ETA: He would have to sit a year in 2018 and wouldn't be able to play until 2019, so the "but we have no receivers!!!!" argument holds no water. We'll have Heath, Murphy, and maybe more guys on board by then.
Just give me DK Metcalf. He's better anyways.
I heard that he actually reached out to us not long ago and was politely told to go 17 himself. I hope this is true.
Well tell your friend who to turn in any compliance issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
It doesn't really matter what I think so I'll try to take my emotions out of it and just say that I trust Coach Mullen to make the right decision on any transfer who may have some issues. The thing about AJ Brown or any other SEC caliber transfer is that if they don't play for us they will probably play against us.
This post has reason to it and it is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Come on man.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Why would he do that? Why would he care?
To him, a kid got 315K & good for him. He couldn't care less about AJ's football career.
This is pretty much where I stand. We definitely need a player like him. If he was able to come in hat in hand, work hard and earn the respect of the team, then I'd love to see us take him. And I'd hate to see us turn him away and then have him go be a star at Auburn or something like that. All that said, I agree that it's not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Other than him being a total bag of shit and cancer with a gigantic ego wrapped around it nah there's no downside at all to letting the gigantic ego wrapped bag of shit and cancer play for us. Oh and half our team wants to rip his ****ing head off already. Nope no downside at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Wow I had forgotten about that....his Dad was coach at StateQuote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
Surely your kidding. You're going to pass complete judgement on a high school kid for shooting his mouth off on social media? Unreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If we are going to add a WR let it be the Oregon starter or bring Fred Brown back. Those two don't have the entire team hating them already and half the fanbase like Ego Bag o Shit & Cancer AJ Brown does.
I'd totally agree with you if it were true that he was a "total bag of shit & cancer with a gigantic ego wrapped around it". However, as I outlined earlier in this thread, the information I have from someone on the inside is that's not who he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Sure, he handled his recruitment like shit & made MSU look bad, but he got $315K for goodness sakes.
How many of you on here would turn down $315K from another school to play at Arkansas for free?
He wasn't a diehard MSU fan, so it was as emotional as it was for us.
Ehh, I'm a huge State fan and I wouldn't turn down $315k to play at State for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'd take a reincarnation of Gene Jelks or Cam Newton or Peyton Manning if I thought they'd act right and help my team...
Do.
Not.
Want.
He can go kick rocks somewhere.
He is he exact same played as Treadwell. Unless our entire passing game is gonna be bubble screans and go routes, he would be lost. When the Vikings tried to run the route tree with Treadwell, he had zero clue what what was.
As far as attitude, this kid shit on our university in Starkville. On signing day. In front of everyone. Tells me all I need to know. And if he came to Msu he would have all the same impact as BJ Hammond. Including getting his ass whipped at practice daily. Didn't want him in recruiting. Don't want him now. Send him down and let Hud have that headache
Hell no!!!!! It would kill team chemistry if we brought him in and played him ahead of the guys we recruited and wanted to be here.
I would rather lose with our guys than win with there's!!!!
Some of us pick up on things much quicker than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandwolf
I'll judge Shitbag off of what I saw, read, heard, interpreted myself with my own eyes/ears/brain and what I saw is a gigantic ego wrapped bag of shit & cancer. If he is feeling sorry for himself go play minor league baseball for the Padres or go to a different school where the team and half the fanbase doesn't already hate his guts. It's not like we didn't try to warn him a thousand times over. Had he taken his 315K and been humble and polite towards State fans, players and even our HC that I would have no problems welcoming him in. He didn't do that at all though. Dude was talking shit about Mullen on top of all the other shit he was saying about our fans and some of our players. He is not welcome on this team ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
This thread explains why you can't let fans and boosters run a program by remote control. OM was taking every merc and renegade transfer they could get their slimey hands on and now they are paying the price. If you're value system says "win at all costs" soon you will have to pay the cost.
Boy, this attitude is so much of what is wrong with our American culture today. I mean a guy that just accepts a full ride scholarship plus his stipend to play for the school he wants to play for and turns down 315K from another school that is recruiting him against the rules, and oh that by the way already has an NCAA NOA in hand, is considered "dumb"? There are things like honor, ethics and values that factor in for some people's decisions in life, a shame that they are so few and far between these days. The real pot of gold for a highly ranked recruit is finding a place that can make him into an attractive pro prospect. Its no coincidence that a lot of the guys selling themselves to the highest bidder have the character of a CJ Johnson or an AJ Brown.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Ummmm...no. Brandon maye didn't make a difference because he wasn't good. Like a lot of grad transfers, he was transferring for playing time. A good LB would have plugged a huge hole for us that year. Brandon hodges is the same deal, except whereas we always have an adequate lb to plung in, we may not at right tackle, and he should be at least adequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
You take an above average talent and use that to replace the weak link on a team, especially teams in the top 12-30, who often have one glaring weakness, and that will make a huge difference for them.
Not disagreeing with you at all, but that's the reality of the situation from impartial, non-biased peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Luke 15:21 And the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
Luke 15:22 And the father replied, ‘GTFO of here shitbird - you had your chance and blew it,’ and he never heard from the son again.
AJ burnt his bridge. He knows that, and so do we.
It's not that the take is unpopular, it's that it's implausible . I'm not polyannish enough to say he only got a few bucks either. The 315 k figure should have tipped you off that your friend was being teased or was teasing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
AJ's personality is a match with the culture around the om football program for the last 3 years. What he got improperly is certainly a matter of discussion, but those of us near him in Starkville knew that he did genuinely like the idea of playing there.
He wanted to go there. Of course that has nothing to do with what OM did to entice him.
I don't believe for 1 minute OM paid his ass $315,000. I'm like Cruise, "Show me the money"Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That's AJ's words Timmy buddy. Not mineQuote:
Originally Posted by Bodaski
Breck Tyler also got broken in half by Rob Fesmire in the Egg BowlQuote:
Originally Posted by AlmostPositive
What happens when the entire team is pissed off because they actually had faith in that 2nd team WR and they begin the believe that the coaching staff doesn't have faith in them and will sell them out for the next hot transfer? If we were talking about widgets in a factory I would agree. But we are talking about young men who can be emotional. Recruit and develop is the way to go. Free agents seldom succeed in CFB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Well when you go into the season with only 78 scholarship players you are putting yourself at a disadvantage to start with. You can tell a grad transfer whatever he wants to hear but when push comes to shove during the season you are going to play the best guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Why wouldn't they, facing the program as it is now. They will now spin the new interim coach into a great fit, and he very well may be, while they quietly feel out every available big name in America. I wonder if they will have the same superstar search committee that found Coach Freeze ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
And then he goes and tells everyone he can that the coaches are lying sacks of sh!t. And if he is really feeling vengeful about a program that lied to him about his limited amount of college eligibility he might even allow his playbook to get lost and be found by some other team.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Being shady isn't the way. OM tried that experiment and we are looking at the results. Keep taking HS and JuCo kids with the best blend of talent and character that you can get. Coach them up the best you can and be content with your work and your impact on young men's lives. "Life champions" if you will.**** ijk
I'm sorry and I know its wrong, but this made me laugh......a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We had a baseball player a few (or several) years ago who transferred from OM to State. Played decent for us and I think played well against OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Haha, I lol'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking