They are not getting the death penalty. Stop with this.
The NCAA will credit Barneys testimony bc the want to-they know OM is dirty and will use every bit of evidence they can to support the very harsh penalties they are about to hand down.
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They are not getting the death penalty. Stop with this.
The NCAA will credit Barneys testimony bc the want to-they know OM is dirty and will use every bit of evidence they can to support the very harsh penalties they are about to hand down.
No idea... the OM connects I have think it's gonna be rough. But nothing they can't endure for a couple of years. They just wanna save Freeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Token Bammer
What do I think they should get? Couple year bowl ban, some show causes, and 10-12 schollys for 3 or 4 years.
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
The NCAA could still think he is a liar and rouge but with the number of staff members already named it more than likely will trigger the head coaches responsibility mandate regardless. The "I didn't know what was going on" defense is no longer valid. He has to specifically monitor his staff's activities and all of these new allegations were while they knew they were being investigated. And immunity may have already been used to confirm what they got on Barney. He would just be admitting to what they already knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
The other thing in the article that I found interesting was about the $13-15,000 given to a student athlete COMMITTED to another school. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Leo never committed to us until signing day. That sounds a lot like Scarborough to me. I could be wrong though.
I was thinking the same thing. What kind of defense lawyer is going to make those kind of statements to the media? Something is not right here. Attorneys always deny everything for their clients. This guy is basically inferring Barn is guilty. What's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
OM is going to admit the acts happened, just that it and Freeze are not to blame, only Barney and boosters and others not named Freeze or OM are to blame. That defense ain't going to work with the new head coach legislation in place. Only question left is whether Freeze survives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Stop saying this. The assumption that he's not believable or is discredited is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Yeah, he was basically saying Barney did all this and that's why OM is in this shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmccgc
Fits what i was told from day one was the plan... Barney and the boosters falling on the sword.
Well I wouldn't put it past the guy to have that stuff. Obviously taping people is part of the culture there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
I thought after reading the article that was maybe what had happened. Now, I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroons
But yes, if he all of a sudden did come out with a bunch of new dirt, they wouldn't give it much credibility.
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Originally Posted by Spiderman
Goodness you have a lot of faith in Hugh Freeze. They are not that smart and things are not going perfectly according to OM's plan. It sounds like you are buying into OM's delusions and hype.
This lawyer is on TV throwing OM under the bus and you are saying it's all part of the plan. Snap out of it. It is what it looks like. OM tried to throw Barney under the bus and Barney is fighting back with everything he has. One thing he can do is send his lawyer out to paint OM as the dirty program they are.
Hired his own attorney and that attorney is saying that OM tried to single out farrar and use him as a scapegoat. He said that OM will get the closest thing to the death penalty as can be given without actually getting it. Any doubts I had concerning the severity of the coming penalties are now gone. OM is getting the hammer. Im not gonna link it because it's sds but it's a wonderful read.
Let's see if Barney sues them. As i said, you will know it's going sideways when they start eating their own. And this isn't Freeze's strategy, it's the big wigs at OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
They have been doing this for years. It's like the letters going to B'ham so nobody could get them. They are cut throat MFer's when it comes to stuff like this.
Please tell me when OM sources have been right and truthful about anything involving this. They are blowing smoke up your butt. Hugh Freeze doesn't look like a dead man walking and blow off reporters at the very mention of the investigation if OM has their master plan in place and it's working perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
OM is screwed and they know it. They just believe that they are beyond the point of contrition so they are holding on to Freeze and any shread of hope.
Houston Nutt is on the verge of suing them. They are just waiting for the penalties to come down. The so-called big wigs at OM are about to be exposed by a (no offense Rosebowl) amateur journalist with a podcast. They may have bought off the local news with their money and connection but all of it is unraveling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Nothing they can't endure for a couple of years? Lmfao. What they SHOULD get? 10-12? Damn dude, you are as delusional as the 9 over 3 nafoom crowd. So you are saying 10-12 is what you would suggest if it were up toyou? Are you that concerned about the mental health of your rebel buddies or are you really concerned about the future of Ole Miss football?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
I think he meant 10-12 per year for 3-4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bully13
My sources ain't Yancy. That said,no matter if he falls on the sword or OM makes him out as a lying outlaw rouge, Barney is getting all the blame, no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
Here is an excerpt from article. Delete if this is not allowed.
Loyd recently spoke with Jojo Gentry, the Sports Director at WEVV (Fox44/CBS44), to discuss the case against Ole Miss.
“It is as close to the death penalty as you can get without that actually happen,” Loyd said. “Coach Farrar has been questioned extensively, in fact, five times by the NCAA about those allegations.”
According to Loyd, Ole Miss is in this situation after failing to follow the NCAA’s rules and is concerned his client has become singled out by the school as a possible scapegoat for the many alleged violations.
“To use the excuse that everyone else is doing it, that’s just not a good defense,” Loyd continued. “That’s not a good reason. That’s not an acceptable reason. Some of these rules, you wish they weren’t there but the fact of the matter is they are — and they’ve got to be enforced, and they’ve got to be followed. And if you don’t, you’ll find yourself in the position the University of Mississippi athletic department has found itself.”
According to Gentry, Ole Miss has submitted its response to the NCAA’s latest notice of allegations last week. The school’s response is expected to be released to the public sometime this week.
That is correct. I thought that was a given. I will post at a 1st grade reading level for some from now onQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Spider and his "big ole miss booster" golfing buddies have said all along that OM will skate. I guess this is his/their last ditch effort to find a reason as to why they'll escape harsh penalties. He thinks the NCAA won't believe Barney because Ole Miss is painting him to be a lying, crazy, rouge cheating coach. And for some explicable reason, the NCAA will believe OM!?! He thinks the NCAA can't see the whole picture:Quote:
Originally Posted by Token Bammer
1) Barney lied to protect OM
2) OM back stabs Barney
3) Barney tells the truth
4) NCAA believes Barney
No, Barney isn't getting ALL the blame. All the blame will go to Hugh Freeze and their athletic dept that hired him and had two other programs on probation too. Bro you have been compromised by the Russians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
Is this the first in the series of ITs? If so, this is quite the doosey. An Indiana news station saying it is the worse since SMU. Farrar rolling on Mississippi before the COI and his legal counsel saying "as close to the death penalty" without getting it. Going to be hard to top this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
Ironic that the article states its the largest violations case in 30 years. SMU received the death penalty in Feb 1987. I'm not saying that they will get the death penalty but to be largest case since the death penalty at SMU says something.
Barney knows where bodies are buried. He can provide missing links and connect dots. After Barney fills in a couple of holes for the NCAA they'll believe every word that comes out of his mouth.
You might as well be telling 9 year old me that there is no Santa Claus. In my world, school is out, Mom has the Christmas decorations up, she is baking cookies, and the anticipation of whether I will get the new 3 speed Schwinn with the banana seat or the Daisey pump pellet gun with the 4x optical sight is the only thing I am thinking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
that's leo when he was committed to bama. Scarborough isnt involved in this from all accountsQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
That makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Problem is, santa will bring you a great gift and you'll be upset because it ain't the bike or pellet gun, and people will laugh at you and say you have no credibility bc you didn't get the bike or gunQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbite
Barney looking for some of that NCAA immunity...
IYOK, I don't think I've heard your take on all of this. If so, I have forgotten. So give it up.
Like I said. Stop with death penalty posts and be happy about the harsh penalties about to come down.
The NCAA isnt going to hand out the death penalty again. SMU never recovered. But they will make an example out of OM. They are up shit creek with no paddle
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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
To be fair, he said the allegations are as close to the death penalty as you can get. No one knows the penalties yet.
I'm sure the NCAA has numerous leads on infractions where they were just missing one or two pieces of the puzzle before they could actually list them as an allegation. And the way the NCAA keeps things silent, most likely no one knows that they were working on those leads. If Barney provides them with those missing pieces, they will not only believe what he has to say, but quit possibly have enough to, dare I say, have enough to start another NOA....at that point will just depend on how far they want to bury them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
The time for that has come and gone. He has already given his interviews with the investigators and his response to the NOA. What is left is the COI meeting and penalty phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boodawg