Not a surprise at all. It was not a good fit for him, he never looked comfortable. Best of luck to Mario!
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Not a surprise at all. It was not a good fit for him, he never looked comfortable. Best of luck to Mario!
I think we might be better off. Sounds stupid but he wanted to play the 3 and we have plenty of minutes w guys who can play the 1-3. Good players.
Only problem i see is Eli at the three. Can he play there? Seems like liability defensively for sure bc of height.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Ado will start
You think thats an NCAA tourney lineup???Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'll get killed and called a homer, but the timing, among other things, suggests this might be a mutual parting more than some think.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Oh yea Howland is going to keep the 2 PG look a lot. That's just the base list I had. Xay is going to log plenty of minutes at the 4 like Mario unless Datcher really improves. Going small isn't really a bad thing for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If baby spoon and ado are as good as advertised, absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Basically today in college basketball you need one of two things to win and getting both is proving damn near impossible. (1) Elite talent (2) Hard nosed, tough minded players. If you are truly elite like KY, Duke, Kansas you can get away with pure talent. Otherwise you need guys who just play hard and are talented enough.
MSU basketball has had neither. We have good athletes that are soft are some hard nosed guys that aren't very talented.
As for Kegler he's a above average talented guy that is too slow to play the 3 and has no desire to play the 4. Be interested to see where he lands and how it plays out.
No idea. Depends on Q's recovery, freshman to soph development, and how good nick isQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Speaking of guys wanting to play certain positions which leads to transfer... is Malik expected to play point at Kansas this year?
Its definitely taken a distant 3rd position of my favorite college sports and its mostly because of the entitled, self-absorbed kids that play it now. Its a team game where very few players have any idea of a team concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Hurmph, Hurmph. I am beginning to hate college basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Haven't done this in a while but.....You IDIOT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
We'll see what this basketball season brings. He needs to produce this winterQuote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
Why do you cling to this easily disproven meme?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
http://i.imgur.com/pihYg59.png
(Note: We actually finished 88th this year. This image was made before all of the postseason tournaments finished.)
Howland significantly improved Ray's players in his first year, and then with an entirely new starting 5 only regressed a little. There's no reason to think we won't be significantly better in year 3.
GOOD. I'm glad Kegler is gone. Never saw the fire or intensity needed to compete. He's a diva and plays half ass. Let him be someone else's problem
Meh, I hate losing a large body, but I lost count of the times someone mentioned they "hoped" Kegler would figure it out soon last year....but he never did. He was a rally killer, turnover creator, and was the only guy that didn't show improvement at any point. He's a small forward that thought he was a shooting guard.
Again, you always hate to lose a big talented guy...but if I had to pick a guy to lose, Kegler would probably be it. We'll be more athletic and probably have a better locker room because if it. Good luck, Mario.
I think it's safe to say recruiting a blue chip basketball player from Jackson, MS, usually equates to an enormous waste of time, resources, and effort. I'd either look for sleepers or completely leave that town alone.
Kegler isn't a big loss. A tweener with no hope for the NBA. We need the scholarship for the 2018 class and just got it.
The timing sucks and the optics will suck but as you guys said he was a tweener and had no future in the NBA. Stapleton and Eli are better threes. Kegler is an idiot transferring now. Good luck finding a program that will play you at the three. Much like Malik with Horatio, Omar killing Kegler's career.
Omhar Carter wanted assurance that Kegler would play the 3. He thinks Kegler is good enough to go pro after two years if given the chance to show his talent on the perimeter. Didn't get the assurance he wanted, so Kegler leaves.
Much like the Malik situation. Kegler is a talented player but not necessarily a good player at this point in his career. Has a ton of potential, but as has been stated, low basketball IQ and big time AAU mentality (shoot as often as possible, play defense as little as necessary). That being said, I believe we will see both players drafted before all is said and done. I also could see both on an NBA roster (it helps having 15 spots now per team vs. 12 spots like in old days). I don't see either ever being anything more than a bench player at best.
However, being from Jackson, Malik isn't half the player Monte Ellis was at the same point and Mario couldn't hold Darius Rice's jock right now, even when Darius was a freshman at Miami.
The main thing that could hurt now is losing the connection with Omhar. Love him or hate him, he has players. Always has and always will. Ladarius Marshall and Michael Barbour both in Class of 2018 are his. And, he brings in kids from Africa to the states every year now. Need to keep that connection open if possible. That's up to George Brooks.
With Kegler's attitude, he isn't making the NBA.
We are getting DJ Stewart and Robert Woodard for 2018 which will fill those two 2018 spots. Not sure those two you mention are high on our board.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg93
Both Spoons and Stapleton are from the Jackson area, and I called Kegler after he was acting like a diva in the high school national tournament. Howland has to stop signing players that show signs of being divas before they even make it to campus. This one is on Howland. If it was obvious to me watching Kegler twice from my ****ing couch he was going to be a problem it has to be more obvious to Howland. STOP SIGNING BABIESQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
1) Why can't we ever sign 1 or 2 of these 800 transfers? 2) We need to be permanently done with Ohmar Carter. I don't want to hear us signing one of his players ever again. I'd much rather give some player from Australia or Italy a shot over signing some 5* Ohmar Carter diva any day every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg93
Bruce Pearl first 3 years at Auburn. No post season one winning season ( last year)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pollodawg
Frank Martin first 3 years at USCe (17-16 year 3 first winning season)
Shaka Smart year 2 at Texas won 11 games.
And CBH was given far less to work with than those 3 when they all got to their respective schools.
Some of you people act like we were a national power in hoops. We haven't been to the dance since I think 09 and haven't been to the sweet 16 in over 20 years.
Losing Keg hurts more perception wise more than anything. This gives more minutes to Tyson, X and Eli. His departure may improve that locker room.
Everyone chill the **** out, let's see how much the sophomores to be will improve this year. I'm guesssing a lot. Along with the incoming stud Spoon and a healthy Q..not to mention more depth with Ado at the 5
Kind of hard to avoid him considering he is the main guy of the MBA Hoops AAU team. We can't get a good grad transfer because believe it or not our grad school requirements are too high. As far as other transfers, I think we are trying to build from the high school ranks. Hopefully losing Newman and Kegler are addition by subtraction and it creates better team chemistry because of it. Kegler was one of the freshmen that really disappointed me because with all of the hype he got he should have produced at a much higher clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I agree. I think this is addition by subtraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Guys, he almost transferred at Christmas. I thought we got things cleared up, but we didn't.
He didn't even start for Oak Hill and didn't play well there. He is an overhyped tweener that may develop into a good not great college player and won't see the NBA. It's the cold truth but Braxton Key was the better player between the two and we got sold an overhyped bill of goods. Good luck wherever he lands though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog
Well I guess I'm in the minority, but I wish we could've kept him. I saw a freshman that had an NBA body, but could only play well in spurts... kinda like all our freshmen last year.
Sure but he didn't want to do what it took to play the four. He wanted to stay on the perimeter and play the three. His best bet would have been to learn to slash to the goal draw fouls and shoot free throws. Make defenders respect his game driving to the basket and mix in his perimeter game when he had open shots. He disappeared down the stretch offensively and wasn't much better defensively. I agree he had a lot of potential but it was just that potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Lulz what a freaking idiot. Carter too. I agree on being done with him. I don't care what players he has, they're not worth it.
Yep and they time asking for the release when Coach Howland isn't in town to create an extra shitstorm. Very cheap way to ask for the release.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
He just ruined any chance he had. So cool, see ya.
When else would he leave? The season ended in early March. He finished out the semester, probably went home and talked it over with family / acquaintances, then decided to bolt. He left pretty much at the earliest opportunity that made sense. He had nothing to gain by leaving in January in the middle of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I wish i had a ****ing couch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I saw him in Zaxby's in jackson the other night repping MSU gear and two other guys that were with him were decked out in MSU gear. Very weird.
That's probably most of his wardrobe, to be honest. Athletes get tons and tons of free gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by louisvilledawg