LOL, were we as hot as LSU coming into to this one? Your fellow R...err.... fellow travelers here were all talking about how we were limping home prior to tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
LOL, were we as hot as LSU coming into to this one? Your fellow R...err.... fellow travelers here were all talking about how we were limping home prior to tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We just lost to UGA and beat Troy 10-8 on tuesday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Oh, so supporting Mullen is something bad now is it? The only people I know who want Mullen gone worse than a few idiots here are Rebels. Which are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Nice try Rebel. That YOU are taking their side makes me SMILE. Thanks for the SUPPORT!Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I didnt say I wanted him gone or that I didnt support him. He has done well since winning the egg bowl this past season. But before that his season was an epic disaster that costed us wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Then your take is wrong. This is a message board...I say good job when they do a good job, and bad job when they do poorly. You want an ass kiss thread, you belong on Genespage. And for Goodness Sakes, learn what every other fan in this fan base considers "poor ole MSU", because you are it but are too confused to realize it. You're the guy that wants to tell everybody how good they have it now, so you think saying anything negative about a successful coach is blasphemy....that's poor ole MSU regardless of your definition. You can't just suddenly decide that bc you fit the bill of a negative phrase, you'll just change the meaning of the phrase, LOL. Damn, you and blacklistedbully are either the same guy, or went to the same school of "how to make folks dislike me on a messageboard."Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Nice try Rebel. Let's see, we lost a NFL rookie of the year and something like 90% of our offensive production yet the season was an epic disaster. Then again we DID beat your team rather handily. I bet you live in Jackson and have to go through the 55-20 interchange twice a day. That HAS to suck for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
The expectations were too low to start with. Most people remember 2015 where we lost a lot of players and assumed that 2017 would be the same way. In the meantime I contended that we should expect to be a two seed because we had Pilkington, Rooker, and Mangum- three guys that are better than anyone on the 2015 team plus I assumed we would have Rigby and Smith in the bullpen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Well golly gee- look where we are now.
That aside- Cann made some very obviously terrible moves that hurt us this weekend. And that is a fact. The fact that he put Vansau and MacNamee in the lineup together tells me he regrets not pinch hitting for Poole last night- which was incredibly dumb given how Poole looked in his other AB's. And now he's telling is that Self can only go x amount of times and with the lead despite pitching him multiple times a weekend in the past.
Look- it sucks now but I hope he learns from it. He can't expect to put pitchers who have terrible BB/K rates with ERA's through the roof and expect it to work and then not be criticized when it doesn't work.
YOU are the fanbase I grew up with. We are MSU and we SUCK every time we lose is what I grew up with. I see nothing different from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Hilarious coming from a guy talking out of his ass who admits he doesn't even follow baseball that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Jesus Christ. How long are you going to keep trying this. If you could understand English and read what I had replied to you with earlier you will see. How about starting a 5'8 160 pound running back all year long then going to Aeris and all of a sudden we can run the ball??? How about starting Fitz vs USA and pulling him after 1 drive for a CUSA level QB and getting us beat???? How about hiring a shit for brains DC while also calling defensive plays and meddling with an already shit defense??? How about demanding a prevent defense vs UK allowing them to go down the field and kick a game winner? Starting terrible SR players over better younger players and costing us? (Zach Jackson, Tyler Russell, Ladarius Perkins all come to mind) Nothing personal but I have probably forgotten more about MSU than you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Exactly Todd. I have no emotions when it comes baseball. I DID say I do keep up with MSU baseball though. I have been to a few games this year. I just don't melt down when we lose.........in baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
^This^ is why nobody likes you or agrees with you. Nobody can say "poor job tonight by the coach", without you translating it in your sunshine pumping head as "we SUCK". Learn to read and quit creating interpretations in your head, and maybe you won't take every little comment as something so dramatic. Seriously, you have issues if you take a thread saying "Andy you are great and have been great, but tonight you sucked", as "MSU baseball SUCKS". Damn drama queen. Maybe you shoulda realized the reason you didn't fit in with "the fans you grew up with" was bc of YOU, not themQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
No you suck. We walk four innings of batters and hit some more and gave up 11 runs on 8 hits but we need to shut up because Ron Polk wrote a book. That's the MSU I grew up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
People asked the MSU media to ask Cann about Self and he got pissed. And I bet he doesn't do it again. Ergo people like me who criticize just made MSU better going forward.
You really are a Rebel. Good lord why do you bring that NAFOOM crap here?Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Yep, water cooler emotions 1982.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
When you were 60 years old apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Translated as ''Dan Mullen is infallible, better than Bear Bryant and Knute Rockne put together!!!!!!!!''Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
LOL...............REALLY LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Ok Rebel...............I always find it interesting that defending a coach means that I must think he is infallible. Anyone that thinks THAT really is a Rebel. You aren't smart enough to be a DAWG.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Freshmen at MSU actually. I saw a BIT of good college baseball back then. I'm sure YOU would blame Gene Morgan getting hit on the foot on Polk.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Defending a coach no matter what is pretty much saying he or she is infallible. Are you Megan Mullen? Or Allison Cannizaro??Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
That's interesting, bc you have no problem claiming that every time one of us says someone did poorly that we are really saying "MSU sucks!". How can you see it when it's being done to you, but not see it when you do it to others? (In literally every single post you make pretty much)Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
And quit calling him "Rebel". It's lame, and he's not one...so it makes you look bad, or worse
Who's hotter?? Pics!!!!!!**Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Most people blame Polk for not taking him out after the ball hit his foot. But we actually understand sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
That's what I thought when you told us in this thread that Cann has done a better coaching job than Vick Scheaffer this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
I don't blame you for backing away from that hot potato.
Saving Self just put us in the Supers. Watch. Sometimes a move you don't make today is because you have bigger plans 2 weeks from now. I know y'all want that Stansbury West Banner so bad but I want to go to ****ing OMAHA!!! I do not blast Cann for saving Self this weekend, I do however blast him for ever putting Poole in the batters box again. I can hit better than that guy left handed and drunk.
Self will pitch today now that the series is over. We aren't resting him the weekend. I think we see self for an inning with lsu up say 7-2Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I could do that as well and be masturbating while doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I've been on Cann's bandwagon as much or more than anyone and criticism earlier in year was almost completely unwarranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
But the last few series ... I'm puzzled by his decision making. Why Poole and Alexander seem untouchable in the lineup is beyond me. I groan every time they come up to bat, especially with runners on. They have the worst at bats and don't come close to putting the ball in play usually. It really is bad.
Bragg played really good one weekend and then disappears. He hit and fielded well. I don't know what happened with that. And I, unlike everyone else, don't think that Luke is such an 'awesome' fielder. That ball he missed from Gridley to get lead runner that was right there for the tag out the other night was terrible. He's done that a couple of times on tags. Bragg played D as good as Luke has when he was in there that one weekend. And that bunt attempt Luke had the other night ... it was worse than the one Bragg had screwed up. Horrible bunting attempts and AB. Right now Belmont can't hit, can't bunt, and ain't Craig Nettles or even close at third. He is a slightly above average fielder at best IMO. If you can't produce anything to help the offense at all, then you better be Craig Nettles at third.
Our good bats, especially Rooker, are pressing too much at the plate now. And to me at times it looks like our good hitters haven't even studied the opposing staff much. They look so totally surprised at times with what's coming toward them ... it just looks to me like they may not be doing their homework. This is excluding Thur night LSU game ... that guy had some nasty shit with that knuckle curve.
And the pitching staff management ... I'm not understanding those decisions either.
We aren't real talented and the pitching staff has been thin, but we have had some opportunities to win AU and GA series, and probably had a chance to win last night's game too (didn't watch it). Cann's decisions at key points during these 3 series have been head scratchers to me. Maybe not batting for Poole and Alexander earlier in game ... I might understand that if he considers them stellar defenders. But when you absolutely have to have runs and still sticking with them ... I don't understand that at all. Sticking with them with multiple runners on base with 1 or 2 outs in 7th inning or later down a couple to 3 runs ... that's ludicrous with the way they are hitting right now. Same with pitching staff management decisions.
ETA: To sum up ... the bitching that is going on now is pretty warranted IMO.
LOL ... what a typical response from a Mullen "is God" fan to someone who disagrees with them. Just call them a Rebel SMH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Yep, the 6th, 7th, 8th & 9th all should have belonged to Riley Self and Spencer Price.Quote:
Originally Posted by hailstate17
The way these two were used in the last month I find it hard to believe -- Price's last "meaningful" game was against TCUN in the Governors Cup. Strategically going to Self earlier during the past few SEC weekend series would have allowed Price (who is also one of our better pitchers) to be used in meaningful games as well, but that didn't happen.
I fully expect Price to give up several runs when he finally does get a chance to pitch just from the rust that Cann and Henderson have allowed to build up on his arm.
Uh, no. Just no. This isn't anywhere close to a Super Regional team. IMO, we HAD to win the LSU series to host and I don't think we are hosting now and not throwing the kitchen sink into last night's effort (to give us a chance for today) has cost us a regional host spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Could have kept us from the Supers....bc instead of hosting, now we're a 2 or 3 seed on the road. Nothing about "saving" Self makes sense. He throws about 2 innings per weekend...he's as rested as a pitcher can get at this point in the year EVEN IF he had pitched 3 innings last night and kept LSU at 4 runs for us to win itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
If Self goes Bumgarner and pitches us into a Super it won't matter if we host or not.
The funniest part of us "saving" self is we used him vs Troy, but not lsu
In a way he actually has. Vic's roster was deep and loaded. I don't think anyone would say that about our baseball team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You do realize we don't play in a Regional for 2 weeks...so why couldn't he pitch yesterday for a few innings and still go "Bumgarner" in Regionals? Does it take 3 weeks of rest to be effective? We all know Self not pitching had nothing to do with "saving" shit, and everything to do with Cann & Henderson trying to get by with a weaker pitcher to try and maximize Self to close out a game....unfortunately, they were too dumb to realize that maximizing him would have been bringing him in with the game tied at 4, and giving us a shot at winning the series. Our coaches have progressively gotten more and more stingy with he and Price, and last night they finally let it hurt the team. I just hope they learned from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Sometimes you have to worry about tomorrow tomorrow. We were doing that most of the year...doing what we had to do to win THAT game, and then worrying about the next one when we get to it. We got away from that though, and tried to create a pitching rotation or system over the last few weeks...but we don't have a good enough staff to do that. You just have to ride a hot hand with this staff, and do what it takes to win today. We abandoned that, it has cost us lately, and will continue to shorten our season if we don't get back to playing every game without thinking about the next one.
Guess they were giving others the opportunity to grab the glory. They didn't but let's be real here we weren't winning the SEC if Self pitches then or not. Stop melting over it. Cann registered the result. He doesn't have Alzheimers.
This shit right here is poor ol MSU. Yeah- we're so bad we took two out of three from the best team we've played in Kentucky and were in first place going to play a sub 500 Georgia team. No chance to win the SEC at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
And even if we don't have a chance to win the SEC at least go down using the best players on the team. Every damn coach we have on campus seems to have a problem with this concept.
Also, I hate to tell you but if Cann's comments last night were any indication of how we're going to use Self going forward we'll be lucky to see him once if we even get to a SR.