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You are already in on it- you are clearly in the "no they wont" sectionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Georgia '17...
App st
At ND
Samford
Miss state
At tenn
At vandy
Missouri
At Florida
South Carolina
At auburn
Kentucky
At GT
Put me in the under 10
That's a pretty soft schedule. i don't see any game that jumps out as a for sure loss. But then again UGA always finds a way to crap a game or two away they have no business losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Even optimistically that looks like an 8-4 type schedule, and that's if they don't lose to teams like Notre Dame, Vanderbilt (who beat them last year), Kentucky (they needed a last second FG to beat UK last year), etc
The East is worse than the West used to be in basketball. A whole division of soft patsies who all choke every big game away.
Pinkel and McElwain's division titles don't mean anything more than Stansbury's.
Georgia will have a good year due to a Charmin soft East...but they won't win 10 games.
Wrong. Try 4 of Richt's last FOURTEEN seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Using your dumb logic that bowl games don't count as wins, then they sure as shit don't count as losses either. '09 - 8-4, '10 - 6-6, '11 - 10-3, '12 11-2, '13 8-4, '14 9-3, '15 9-3. That's 3/7 seasons with at least 4 losses. But, since you like to throw out random (albeit wrong) time frames, I will too. Richt only lost 4 or more games 3 times in his last 9 seasons. Richt only lost 4 or more games 4 times in his last FOURTEEN seasons.
A) You dumb****s need to get better at reading comprehension. Bowl games count- never said likewise. But as far as SEASON PREDICTIONS go- they don't. You can't make a prediction before the season on a bowl game not knowing if a team will be in one or not- or who they might play.
B) I was showing that the 2nd half of Richt's tenure was not nearly as good as the beginning- which can't be disputed. You ****ers get riled up about the weirdest things
C) worst case for Georgia is 9-3 with losses to ND, Auburn, and Florida. I think they will beat either ND or Fla
Haha. BS. You have said numerous times you don't count bowl wins on a coach's (Mullen's) record or on the number of victories Mullen had in a particular season. You have never limited it to preseason predictions. It's not a big deal, but it is hypocritical of you.Quote:
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"Look you dumb****s need to pay attention. Bowl games only count for coaches I like and not the ones I want fired." RandomQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
You're the dumbass who refused to acknowledge our bowl wins when talking about previous records. Any time you compile lists of Mullen's wins you don't include bowl victories. But we get it, you can pick and choose whatever you want to fit your agenda and will argue with a ******* deaf, mute and blind person until you get the last word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Mullen averages more wins than you said was possible for any coach at MSU. Your words not mine. Why you want him fired so bad when he is literally doing the impossible according to you. You said 7 wins was the BEST we could ever hope for as an average for a football coach here.
He doesn't want Mullen fired, he'd just prefer Mullen leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Mullen has averaged 7.62 wins a year. It has been a good run. Even without bowls, it's 7.0 a year.
Swing and miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
why tho when he is accomplishing something C34 said was impossible for ANY football coach to accomplish at MSU?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
This whole thread is meant to show that hiring an up-and-comer can work at State.
Of course it can. Again, look at Mullen.
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So Georgia can't lose to teams like Tennessee or Vanderbilt (teams that beat the oh mighty Kirby Smart last year) even in the worst case scenario, not to mention us, but they still might lose to Notre Dame, who went 4-8 last year with a 1st round QB that's now gone??
No clue. Just what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
You and I both haven't been giving credit to Dan's bowl wins in the final tally of wins/losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Cann has "WOW'd me".
Vic has "WOW'd me".
Dan did ok in 2010 and came close to WOWing me in 2014. He still hasn't WOW'd me yet tho. Mostly due to all the accolades and his reputation as a hotshot offensive guru. I'm underwhelmed in that regard. 1 season in 8 doesn't live up to his lofty reputation.
ETA: Of course half this board was down on Cann earlier this year and Vic in first year maybe first couple with Vic. Such lofty expectations for 1st/2nd year coaches and such low expectations for our 8th year coach (we got the best coach money can buy while "we good losing 4 sec w games every year").
Same with Smart ... half board think he's gonna flop. I don't know if he will or won't, but he just got there. He needs a little time to get his system and players in place.
LOL. Muschamp went 6-7 last year.Quote:
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Some don't realize it is much more difficult for us to win in football than any other sport. Always has been, always will be. And to the OP's original point, I'm not saying we couldn't do better than Mullen. But I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the league sans saban.
I would probably agree on not trading Dan for any coach in the league other than Saban. I think the verdict is still out on Smart and McE tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
But to speak to your "some don't realize it's more difficult point". You just made my point for me ... all the other coaches suck and we don't play McE or Smart (yet). When the opportunity has been there against those coaches who suck, negotiating contracts seemed more important to Dan. And I also believe the offensive numbers should be much better under Dan than they are.
ETA: When Vic got his ass handed to him ... he just went to work and kept doing so. Now we'll see how he handles success from here.
Cann was dealt about the crappiest hand this year you could be dealt with all the injuries. He didn't complain, he just figured it out. He doesn't seem to be about a litany of excuses like some of our coaches can be. What he's done is pretty much a miracle IMO.
Verdict is still out on smart. Not so much on McE.
McE only been there 2 years ... and won the East both years. Maybe he won't turn out so hot ... but that's pretty good starting out.
ETA: There's those lofty expectations for 1st and 2nd year coaches again SMH.
Winning the SEC east isnt saying a whole lot. Mizzou is trash, SC is coming up with Bentley but they arent ready yet, Vandy is Vandy and I'll buy into Tennessee being good again when I see it. UGA and UF wouldnt do diddly in the west. And dont even bring up UF beating LSU if Guice runs the right way on 3rd down and goal LSU wins. LSU is going to beat UF this year and UGA is gonna have its hands full with us and Auburn. We will beat UK (should have last year) and Alabama will skull drag whoever they see in the SECTG.Quote:
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agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
The east sucked both years. Has since 2010. It's why Bama beat the breaks of McE both years in SEC title game. McE will be solid and steady but he ain't winning like spurrier and Meyer did at fla.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
How long you gonna keep punishing Dan for looking around 2-3 years ago? Remember when he did Old Missus hadn't gotten into any hot water yet for their shady recruiting that landed them the #3 class. Wouldn't you get kinda fed up if your biggest rival was cheating their asses off and not getting into any trouble for it? That's changed now so Dan should be giddy to stay here and kick them while they are down plus we have priced him out of the market. He is ours and ours alone at $4.5 mill a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Dan owns every ****ing offensive record ever at MSU as a head coach. Be happy with that. His QB he developed starts for the Dallas Cowboys. Be happy with that. Our current QB is on the heisman watch list and led the entire country in yards the last 8 games. Be happy with that. To bitch about our offense and want more is kinda like bitching about Kate Upton's tits being slightly uneven.
Eason will be a bust for UGA so if the #2 QB doesn't step up, Kirby's path to success may take a little longer.
I do think Dan was sick of the cheating and might have looked to get out of the SEC. I can't blame him. We got into more trouble for listening to Cam's dad than Auburn did for buying him out from under us. Then of course the whole spending spree UNM has been on buying whatever MSU commit they could at the deadline. It caused us to end up with our plan C or D rather than B. I think if Mullen wasn't the 15th highest paid coach or whatever he is then someone would have already gotten him. I think the last year he looks a little more energized. He has made some great coaching hires and has some great QBs with hopefully another coming next year. We are about to be QB U and that is big when it is the most important position on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I bitch about how we underachieved in 15 and Mullen probably cost us a couple wins last year at least due to Holloway up the middle, keeping a ridiculous QB controversy going, and meddling in the defense after he hired a shit show of a DCQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Ha ha... Comparing us making a hire for our baseball program and making one for our football team is apples to oranges. One we actually have a pretty solid history in, the other has been a cellar dweller for the majority of our program's history. Mullen was a terrific hire, that being said, I don't know if Smart would have left Bama for State and I don't know if Mc would have been successful here. He has been alright at UF, not that impressive. IMO Mullen would have been a better hire for the UF job.
In the East, too. He is an awful coach and a very poor example of the original point of the post (which I do agree with).Quote:
Originally Posted by Covercorner2
Mullen isn't perfect and we will never hire a perfect coach eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
Muschamp went 6-6 and got his team to a bowl game. Nobody expected SC to be bowl eligible. SC had a terrible roster that he is trying to recruit his way out of.
I keep hearing how weak the East is- yet we lost to an East team last year
If Eason is a bust- then what is Fitz? They had damn near identical passing statsQuote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
I think the best thing Cann has done this year is take our baseball program, with a completely depleted pitching staff, and put them in 1st place in the SEC. Great coaching job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I agree with you that muschamp overachieved last year. I actually think he will do okay at USCe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
But using us as a measuring stick to gauge last year's east? Come on. We were not good last year either, and still would prob have been fourth in the east had we played an east schedule.