More UNM NCAA stuff to come out this week?

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

$1M bet that it hits before NSD. Any takers? Bueller? Bueller?

I'd be embarrassed to be an OM fan at this point. Take your lumps and move on you bunch of pasties.

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I bet it comes out before signing day so they can try to rally the troops for one last big jump up the rankings.

If it's coming out, I'm looking for it by Fri of this week

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

If it's coming out, I'm looking for it by Fri of this week

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That make sense Clark, so they have it in hand when DD comes for his OV.

I'm having a hard time contemplating what positives they could put out there that would make a difference, and at the same time not piss off the NCAA even more that they already have.

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Originally Posted by Boodawg

I'm having a hard time contemplating what positives they could put out there that would make a difference, and at the same time not piss off the NCAA even more that they already have.

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What makes you think they give a damn about pissing off the NCAA?

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I mean there is the whole credibility factor. The more people put outrageous things on here the more anyone that isn't a die hard State fan won't take any info on this board seriously, and them getting kicked out of the conference is outlandish. A lot gets broken on here but outsiders will think that this board is just full of crazy people if everyone jumps on the "Ole Miss could get kicked out of the conference" train. That's just not going to happen. They have plenty of shit coming their way without expanding it to levels that will make people just roll their eyes.

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Message boards have little credibility. They are created, maintained, and fueled by mostly anonymous fans. Why would I care if a visiting fan "eye rolls" at some crazy statement. There was a lot of eye rolling when we didn't buy 9 over 3 also. In fact, I would say the more we talk about it and the more it gets out there the more of a talking point it could be for the media.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

That make sense Clark, so they have it in hand when DD comes for his OV.

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It's the only shot they have landing him at this point I think. I would hate it for the kid.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Message boards have little credibility. They are created, maintained, and fueled by mostly anonymous fans. Why would I care if a visiting fan "eye rolls" at some crazy statement. There was a lot of eye rolling when we didn't buy 9 over 3 also. In fact, I would say the more we talk about it and the more it gets out there the more of a talking point it could be for the media.

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The only people that eye rolled at people who didn't buy 9 over 3 were Ole Miss fans and media. If you want people to associate your username with that sort of thing, go ahead. It's just hard to take you serious in conversation when you think they may actually be removed from the conference. I'll gladly buy you a night worth of alcohol the next time I'm in Starkville if that happens. I'll probably buy you a night's worth of alcohol when the realistic sanctions happen anyway. They are going to suck for a long time.

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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit

That Brad Logan character is always available.

Some of his recent work-
Ole Miss noted it intends on self-sanctioning itself and will present before the COI once it is granted a hearing. It will then be decided if the NCAA decides to add any additional sanctions to those already proposed.

Ben Garrett, who has been deep throating Freeze and Bjork for years, was steadfast on the Ole Miss Spirit podcast that Ole Miss would "fight back" should the COI render a verdict that was not deemed satisfactory to its liking.

For Ole Miss fans, that is music to their respective ears. The recent legislation from Rep. Lamar could be the match that lights the fire to the conclusion to what many have called a "witch hunt" against a program that is one year removed from a Sugar Bowl victory.

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He's bad.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The only people that eye rolled at people who didn't buy 9 over 3 were Ole Miss fans and media. If you want people to associate your username with that sort of thing, go ahead. It's just hard to take you serious in conversation when you think they may actually be removed from the conference. I'll gladly buy you a night worth of alcohol the next time I'm in Starkville if that happens. I'll probably buy you a night's worth of alcohol when the realistic sanctions happen anyway. They are going to suck for a long time.

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So, your position is, even if UNM sues the NCAA, tries to bring down multiple SEC members with them, gets busted for academic fraud in addition to multiple other impermissible benefits, and is deemed to have continued cheating while under investigation, etc, that the SEC would not even consider removing them under existing bylaws that allow for it? Even with the embarrassment of this former UNM player trying to enact a state law to punish the NCAA?

If so, why is there even a provision for removal? I mean, if it's simply not ever possible, period....why even have it?

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

So, your position is, even if UNM sues the NCAA, tries to bring down multiple SEC members with them, gets busted for academic fraud in addition to multiple other impermissible benefits, and is deemed to have continued cheating while under investigation, etc, that the SEC would not even consider removing them under existing bylaws that allow for it?

If so, why is there even a provision for removal? I mean, if it's simply not ever possible, period....why even have it?

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This is where I'm at. Is it probable? No. Is it possible? Yes.

If they took their lumps and kept moving then they would be good BUT they haven't accepted anything this entire time and are now talking about suing the NCAA. Additionally, more than a few "connected" Ole Miss people have stated that they are going to take down the rest of the conference. Folks keep asking "why would 2/3 of the member institutions vote them out?" This....this is the reason you vote another institution out. Not only do you drag the conference down with academic fraud but you also have pay-to-play and the host of other level 1's being leveled towards Ole Miss. Then, instead of saying "sorry. we will fix it"....nope...they are going to take down Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Tenn, LSU, Arkansas and MSU also (those are the ones I've heard named).
They aren't making friends in all of this.
I know it's probably not going to happen but you also can't say it's not possible through all of this....especially if half of what has been said is true AND they plan on suing the NCAA and going after other institutes. At that point you have a rogue institute that's just looking to burn everything down around them.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

So, your position is, even if UNM sues the NCAA, tries to bring down multiple SEC members with them, gets busted for academic fraud in addition to multiple other impermissible benefits, and is deemed to have continued cheating while under investigation, etc, that the SEC would not even consider removing them under existing bylaws that allow for it?

If so, why is there even a provision for removal? I mean, if it's simply not ever possible, period....why even have it?

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My position is that the NCAA doesn't give a shit who OM turns in and OM attorneys getting paid millions of dollars aren't stupid enough to put themselves under oath by suing the NCAA.

Here's another glowing piece that Mr. Logan wrote on Sunday:

http://gridironnow.com/ole-miss-foot...le-perception/

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Originally Posted by Jarius

My position is that the NCAA doesn't give a shit who OM turns in and OM attorneys getting paid millions of dollars aren't stupid enough to put themselves under oath by suing the NCAA.

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Which is more unlikely?:

A) That a UNM-educated attorney files suit against the NCAA

B) That a Mississippi state legislator and former UNM player submit actual legislation to penalize the NCAA for investigations he deems to be too long

Also, Penn State had a coach rape little boys for decades and the coaching staff and administration covered it up and they did not get kicked out of their conference. USC didn't get kicked out. Miami. Baylor's coach covered up sexual assault and years back had a murderer on their team. It's just not going to happen. They will get 30 or so scholarships, multi year bowl ban, and freeze will get canned more than likely and that will be enough to set them back a decade.

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Originally Posted by TXDawg

Here's another glowing piece that Mr. Logan wrote on Sunday:

http://gridironnow.com/ole-miss-foot...le-perception/

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That is absolutely disgusting. That asshole should be ashamed.

"The school’s first, most prominent and most important step toward becoming more diversified occurred in 1962 when James Meredith became the first black student to enroll."

He paints this as if it was an action the university, its students and alums took to improve race relations. In reality, they fought it tooth-and-nail, requiring POTUS to send in the National Guard. And there were people shot and killed over it.

Unreal.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

So, your position is, even if UNM sues the NCAA, tries to bring down multiple SEC members with them, gets busted for academic fraud in addition to multiple other impermissible benefits, and is deemed to have continued cheating while under investigation, etc, that the SEC would not even consider removing them under existing bylaws that allow for it? Even with the embarrassment of this former UNM player trying to enact a state law to punish the NCAA?

If so, why is there even a provision for removal? I mean, if it's simply not ever possible, period....why even have it?

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This guy gets it! Have some rep points for making entirely too much sense! You become a liability when you are looking to take down half the programs in your own conference. If the bears sue the NCAA, don't be surprised if there's some rumblings (amongst SEC admins) about the bears removal from the conference. How can they not?? It would be ridiculous to not consider removing the cancer in Oxford. This site was mocked for months, but EliteDawgs has had the best sources since the beginning. People have begun the realize this and are now coming here and will continue to come here for the investigative info.

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Originally Posted by Acid mouth

This guy gets it! Have some rep points for making entirely too much sense! You become a liability when you are looking to take down half the programs in your own conference. If the bears sue the NCAA, don't be surprised if there's some rumblings (amongst SEC admins) about the bears removal from the conference. How can they not?? It would be ridiculous to not consider removing the cancer in Oxford. This site was mocked for months, but EliteDawgs has had the best sources since the beginning. People have begun the realize this and are now coming here and will continue to come here for the investigative info.

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The people with the sources on this site that have been breaking things aren't telling you that Ole Miss is getting kicked out of the conference.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Also, Penn State had a coach rape little boys for decades and the coaching staff and administration covered it up and they did not get kicked out of their conference. USC didn't get kicked out. Miami. Baylor's coach covered up sexual assault and years back had a murderer on their team. It's just not going to happen. They will get 30 or so scholarships, multi year bowl ban, and freeze will get canned more than likely and that will be enough to set them back a decade.

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But did those colleges attempt to burn the entire conference because they got busted?

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The people with the sources on this site that have been breaking things aren't telling you that Ole Miss is getting kicked out of the conference.

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No, they are not. Notice that I prefaced this with, "If the bears sue the NCAA". If they don't, there is zero chance of being removed. If they do sue, I certainly believe expulsion becomes an option.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

That is absolutely disgusting. That asshole should be ashamed.

"The school’s first, most prominent and most important step toward becoming more diversified occurred in 1962 when James Meredith became the first black student to enroll."

He paints this as if it was an action the university, its students and alums took to improve race relations. In reality, they fought it tooth-and-nail, requiring POTUS to send in the National Guard. And there were people shot and killed over it.

Unreal.

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Yep. I had a teacher in sociology when I was at state that said he and some others went up there to support the move and were basically run out of town by Ole Miss students. Said that the local PD was handing over their clubs,, gear, and stuff to the protestors and rioters for them to use and they were all out hunting down black people and Meredith supporters until the National Guard came to town. He said it was sickening and was the most egregious, mass-racist activity that he has seen in his life. Scared the hellmout of him. He's never stepped foot back onto their campus.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The people with the sources on this site that have been breaking things aren't telling you that Ole Miss is getting kicked out of the conference.

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This is true. I don't have great sources I just enjoy stoking the UNM dumpster fire and exploring the multitude of possibilities that could occur through all of this. Like I've said: is it probable? No. Possible? Sure. It's fun to think about. If it wasn't possible it wouldn't be in the by-laws.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The people with the sources on this site that have been breaking things aren't telling you that Ole Miss is getting kicked out of the conference.

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Neither are we. In fact, we're saying it's unlikely at best. But you're saying its not even possible. You are the one taking an extreme view.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Neither are we. In fact, we're saying it's unlikely at best. But you're saying its not even possible. You are the one taking an extreme view.

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I mean it's possible that I win the lottery this week, but it's so minute that I don't feel it's really worth discussing. But carry on. I don't mean to be a damper. I certainly hope they get all of that and more.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I mean it's possible that I win the lottery this week, but it's so minute that I don't feel it's really worth discussing. But carry on. I don't mean to be a damper. I certainly hope they get all of that and more.

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You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting your 9 over 3. You can bank on that.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I mean it's possible that I win the lottery this week, but it's so minute that I don't feel it's really worth discussing. But carry on. I don't mean to be a damper. I certainly hope they get all of that and more.

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What odds would you have given a week or so ago that a Mississippi legislator and former UNM player would introduce a bill to regulate and punish the NCAA for investigations that exceed, what was it, 9 months?

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Originally Posted by Acid mouth

You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting your 9 over 3. You can bank on that.

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My 9 over 3? I don't know what you're trying to say with that, but anyone thinking they were getting 9 over 3 was as out there as anyone thinking they may get kicked out of the SEC.

I am not a paid journalist, investigative reporter, work for The NY Times or ESPN.

That being said. IMO THOSE F'ers ARE GETTING THE DP AND THE SEWANEE TREATMENT!!!***

Now what's the harm in that? My journalistic integrity?!?

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

I am not a paid journalist, investigative reporter, work for The NY Times or ESPN.

That being said. IMO THOSE F'ers ARE GETTING THE DP AND THE SEWANEE TREATMENT!!!***

Now what's the harm in that? My journalistic integrity?!?

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The only place you could get a job as a journalist now is Saturday's Down South and the Clarion Ledger.

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

I am not a paid journalist, investigative reporter, work for The NY Times or ESPN.

That being said. IMO THOSE F'ers ARE GETTING THE DP AND THE SEWANEE TREATMENT!!!***

Now what's the harm in that? My journalistic integrity?!?

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Have some rep!!

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

I am not a paid journalist, investigative reporter, work for The NY Times or ESPN.

That being said. IMO THOSE F'ers ARE GETTING THE DP AND THE SEWANEE TREATMENT!!!***

Now what's the harm in that? My journalistic integrity?!?

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Boom goes the dynamite!!!

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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed

I am not a paid journalist, investigative reporter, work for The NY Times or ESPN.

That being said. IMO THOSE F'ers ARE GETTING THE DP AND THE SEWANEE TREATMENT!!!***

Now what's the harm in that? My journalistic integrity?!?

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Nice! Would read again!! Troll the bears, not your own fanbase!

Word is that it will hit before their big recruiting weekend coming up. Drawn up and put together by their pr staff and distributed out to certain media outlets. Done to make things look better than they really are to show visitors this weekend that things aren't as bad as everyone is projecting. Typical OM made up fake news that they have put out since the beginning of the investigation.