An NCAA Investigation unlike any other

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12-07-2016, 04:09 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Chip

I'd have to say, yeah. ***

Never gets old.
12-07-2016, 04:10 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

This is a good thing. **

Also never gets old.
12-07-2016, 04:12 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This is also what happens when the administration lies to the fan base.

99% of the fan base doesn't realize how bad things are. So why would they quit?

They would've been much better off if the administration told them, "things are bad. Cut it the 17 out"

Instead, they think it's business as usual.

Good post.
12-07-2016, 05:22 PM
archdog

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Originally Posted by spudd21

Something I've thought about. What if the sheavior wasn't really being redshirted, but he was serving a suspension similar to the one tunsil served? Has anyone else considered this? Would make a lot of sense as to why he never saw the field.

He didn't play because Kelly was better. Soon as Kelly was out, he came in. Too much of a coincidence if it was a suspension. Now he may have been suspended, but Freeze needing a QB, decided to lift it. Who knows.
12-07-2016, 05:29 PM
lamont

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"
12-07-2016, 05:38 PM
trob115

mistakes were made.
12-07-2016, 05:47 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by trob115

mistakes were made.

I fear for their soul.
12-07-2016, 05:49 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.
12-07-2016, 05:54 PM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.
12-07-2016, 06:11 PM
EngDawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Bjork and Freeze walk into the empty room.
12-07-2016, 06:12 PM
Sacrifice

I love it! Worldcom type shit.
Just keeps snowballing on them
12-07-2016, 06:16 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.

It's still concluding too. The investigation is conducted separately from the punishment, which means the committee responsible for levying the punishment hasn't had a chance to make decisions yet. For example, hypothetically, if the NCAA is in Oxford right now interviewing ole miss staff this week and expect it to continue into next week, they might catch them in a lie or have them come clean about past lies. A lot can still happen at this point, but whatever happens it's not good for the rebels. The largest NCAA investigation ever has potentially uncovered the most aggregious violations in the history of collegiate sports spanning across 3 sports and four coaching staffs.
12-07-2016, 06:53 PM
Coursesuper

I know for sure that their plan was to sell out on the 16 class and try to ride out the sanctions they knew they has coming. They were convinced they had enough talent to ride out whatever the NCAA handed out, they were so arrogant that they continued to operate as usual.
12-07-2016, 06:55 PM
DancingRabbit

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Yeah he was a ass hole dick head in those two movies. In fact has he ever played a roll where he wasn't at lest a dick head?

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).
12-07-2016, 07:00 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).

I played golf with that guy at a Sherwood CC in Thousand Oaks Ca, they were supposed to have a member outing with Bel-Aire that morning but it " rained". We went out in the sprinkle and played and he went with us, great cigars, terrible player.
12-07-2016, 07:10 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.

Yep, and what the other guy above said too.
12-07-2016, 07:26 PM
Dawgowar

Today , the NCAA COI dropped the hammer on Cal State University Northridge for Academic Misconduct, not fraud - the AD official involved with illegal help to 10 students got 5 yrs show cause....this was the line in the findings that made me think about UNM and their boosters' standing with the NCAA investigators about now:

"The former director of basketball operations denied completing coursework or providing impermissible academic benefits to student-athletes; however, the panel did not find him to be credible."

After Tunsil and everything we believe to have been unearthed since then, the lies, the continued operation of the network - just how credible is the Bear Administration, Boosters, AD, Coaches, etc in the eyes of the NCAA?
12-07-2016, 08:15 PM
Negative Waves

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.
12-07-2016, 09:00 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.
12-07-2016, 09:06 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.

This

The NCAA would also have issues with it's level chart & punishments. Giving Ole Miss 24 over 2 would set a terrible precedent.
With that punishment, could you get docked 12 over 2 for 4 level ones? If so, that makes cheating worth it
12-07-2016, 09:33 PM
Reason2succeed

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

I smell something
12-07-2016, 09:44 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

Out-17n-standing, RP. I definitely agree that the NCAA has not encountered a case of this magnitude just because they can't reach the end without the finish line moving due to the continued cheating. TCUN is 17'd!!!
12-07-2016, 09:46 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

It's still concluding too. The investigation is conducted separately from the punishment, which means the committee responsible for levying the punishment hasn't had a chance to make decisions yet. For example, hypothetically, if the NCAA is in Oxford right now interviewing ole miss staff this week and expect it to continue into next week, they might catch them in a lie or have them come clean about past lies. A lot can still happen at this point, but whatever happens it's not good for the rebels. The largest NCAA investigation ever has potentially uncovered the most aggregious violations in the history of collegiate sports spanning across 3 sports and four coaching staffs.

This will be SMU 2.0 and I'm not sure TCUN's place in the SEC will survive. Gonna be interesting.
12-07-2016, 10:07 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

Those sanctions, while incomplete like it also carries a min 6 year probation, is for ONE Level 1 aggrevaited at a min. One. They have 8 Level 1's in total.
12-07-2016, 11:11 PM
Negative Waves

They're probably going to end up with around 15-20 Level 1's plus multiple Level 2 and 3's. if they're all aggravated (which they probably won't be) and they stacked them, they'd be on probation for at least 30 years! While I'd love to see that, my gut tells me the NCAA primarily wants Freeze's head on a platter. When the bears got hit with (correct me if I'm wrong) 24/2, 2 years probation, and a tv ban in 94, it was some of the harshest penalties they handed out since SMU. 24/2 wouldn't hurt Bama all that much, but with UM, along with this years unofficial probation wrecking their class, it would seriously set them back several years in addition to finding a new coaching staff to come to that dumpster fire. They'd have to pull off a 1997 Jackie Sherrill type class two years in a row which ain't happening.

If the NCAA goes Negan on UM, I'd expect a 3 year bowl ban and 36 over 3. I highly doubt we'll see another death penalty or 48/4. They would might as well turn the Vaught into a marijuana research field.

Reason, I've got degrees from our fine University. I spent a lot of time in Walker and McCain listening to Truax talk about biological oxygen demand, Cole joke about "beer and cookies" before handing out one of his nearly impossible Steel tests, and hearing Dr. Sinno telling the Concrete class that, "Steel does not fail, it yields!" for the umpteenth hundred time. I still have my 1996 Final Four hat and wear it occasionally even though the strap on the back is glued after breaking.
12-07-2016, 11:12 PM
notsofarawaydawg

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12-08-2016, 02:53 AM
anubus

Hope its 30 schollys a 3 year bowl ban and exile from the SEC. Coming to the sunbelt the land shark/shit bird attack!!!!!
12-08-2016, 09:13 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

They're probably going to end up with around 15-20 Level 1's plus multiple Level 2 and 3's. if they're all aggravated (which they probably won't be) and they stacked them, they'd be on probation for at least 30 years! While I'd love to see that, my gut tells me the NCAA primarily wants Freeze's head on a platter. When the bears got hit with (correct me if I'm wrong) 24/2, 2 years probation, and a tv ban in 94, it was some of the harshest penalties they handed out since SMU. 24/2 wouldn't hurt Bama all that much, but with UM, along with this years unofficial probation wrecking their class, it would seriously set them back several years in addition to finding a new coaching staff to come to that dumpster fire. They'd have to pull off a 1997 Jackie Sherrill type class two years in a row which ain't happening.

If the NCAA goes Negan on UM, I'd expect a 3 year bowl ban and 36 over 3. I highly doubt we'll see another death penalty or 48/4. They would might as well turn the Vaught into a marijuana research field.

Reason, I've got degrees from our fine University. I spent a lot of time in Walker and McCain listening to Truax talk about biological oxygen demand, Cole joke about "beer and cookies" before handing out one of his nearly impossible Steel tests, and hearing Dr. Sinno telling the Concrete class that, "Steel does not fail, it yields!" for the umpteenth hundred time. I still have my 1996 Final Four hat and wear it occasionally even though the strap on the back is glued after breaking.

Don't know why but I just like this... "going Negan."
12-09-2016, 05:21 AM
Uncivilengineer

Why you wanna give me flash backs and heart palpations this early in morning?
12-09-2016, 08:59 AM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Uncivilengineer

Why you wanna give me flash backs and heart palpations this early in morning?

lol, sorry man. That was some of the most intense drama I've seen on tv in a while. But we've got some intense BS coming out of Oxpatch that the only way to clean it up, as Negative Waves said, is to "go Negan" on their sorry asses.
12-09-2016, 09:12 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

There just comes a point when the NCAA just has to say 17 it and just nuke their asses for the good of college football and humanity overall.
12-09-2016, 10:06 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This

The NCAA would also have issues with it's level chart & punishments. Giving Ole Miss 24 over 2 would set a terrible precedent.
With that punishment, could you get docked 12 over 2 for 4 level ones? If so, that makes cheating worth it

I don't think it's possible to follow the chart, if you will. If they do its would be basically losing every scholarship when they get done. I think there are going to be 13-15 more allegations in the amended Noa, what if those are level ones I don't know.
Eta remember that's 13-15 allegations, not instances of infractions. That number will total well over 100 including the first letter.
12-09-2016, 10:11 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I don't think it's possible to follow the chart, if you will. If they do its would be basically losing every scholarship when they get done. I think there are going to be 13-15 more allegations in the amended Noa, what if those are level ones I don't know.
Eta remember that's 13-15 allegations, not instances of infractions. That number will total well over 100 including the first letter.

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving
12-09-2016, 10:43 AM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving

It's time for him to clean out the office

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12-09-2016, 10:45 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving

There will be more than one level one in the next set for sure. How many exactly? Don't know
12-09-2016, 10:46 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

It's time for him to clean out the office

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Love that gif.
12-09-2016, 10:48 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

It's time for him to clean out the office

https://i.imgsafe.org/52952c7.gif

This is really the best OM related .gif ever. Seriously.
12-09-2016, 11:22 AM
Liverpooldawg

LOL! Imagie the Twilight Zone music in the background...............

when you read this.

http://olemiss.247sports.com/Board/5...-tape-49658963
12-09-2016, 11:30 AM
TrapGame

It's VIP access only. Can't read a thing.

Give us the Cliff Notes.
12-09-2016, 11:33 AM
ShotgunDawg

Ole Miss fans right now

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