Willie Taggart to Oregon

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12-07-2016, 09:37 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

And another thing...why are all you pussies in an uproar over my first post? Taggart to Oregon...media report, which if any of you would have checked it out on ESPN.com its in black and white, stated it was between 2 finalist one of which was Mullen. I made no effort to insert one way or another my view on Mullen. Just reported it.

ESPN
12-07-2016, 09:39 AM
Bucky Dog

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

This is I Seen Its thread not mine- but I'll say this:

Cohen being called was just part of the process- Sexton had been talked to numerous times before that. You don't call an AD before you call the agent for interest. And if Mullen had no interest- Sexton would have told Oregon that's the case

Secondly- it may have just been a coincidence- but didn't Mullen fly out West last week to visit with a juco CB? Kinda meshes with him flying to Miami last year during Egg Bowl week to recruit a WR

Draw your own conclusion

Or maybe, just maybe, this was the strategy of an agent working for his client, to gain some leverage in possible upcoming contract extension to stay at State.

Hey, I was approached by Oregon to interview and I wanted you to know John that I'm committed to State and want to be here awhile. Great, Dan I appreciate the commitment and we will work something out over the next few months to honor your commitment.

Is it too ****ing hard for us to look at it this way instead of the negative, agenda driven few, and those at OM?
12-07-2016, 09:39 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Your awareness is about as good as your hearing.

If the rumors hurt the program then why help spread them? We KNOW recruits and their parents look at this board.
12-07-2016, 09:39 AM
smootness

Also funny that this singular source ESPN used that is apparently so knowledgeable about that search had no clue Taggart was a finalist until he was actually hired, since no one reported that anywhere beforehand.
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
ElitedawgRecruiting

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I just think they're self-motivated. Ultimately it doesn't matter though. Half the time we're getting info from people not connected to the university too. The college football world is a pretty small circle when it comes to coaching changes, which is why and how every reporter in the country picks it up quickly. It's also how we know about stuff early. Sometimes we share it. Sometimes we don't, but we ALWAYS make the decision on what to share based on what we think is best for MSU, not what we think is best for Mullen.

Further, I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could be pissed at the original post. That's good news. Be happy.

So no where in this do y'all think that what's best for Mullen is what's best for MSU? When this board started it was great because the whole point was to do what's best for Msu and screw Ole Miss. now it seems like we want to out six pack six pack. My point is can't we get back to doing what's best for Msu and screwing ole miss. Seems like more fun to me
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Your awareness is about as good as your hearing.

Was there another day or is that all you have?
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

But he is named a finalist by a source obviously close enough to the search to be talked to by ESPN...I find that less of a stretch than a source on here that said he turned them down.

And Wolken stated that it was Rhule 1 and Taggert their second choice and the sources on Chip Kelly, Gary Patterson and several other sitting Power 5 coaches in play were an alternate reality. There was nothing to those rumors in the end. Their was one "inside source" who doubted that Taggert was a serious candidate during the time they had agreed the job to him.
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
WinningIsRelentless

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Inaccurate. We want Mullen to turn his recruiting around. These job rumors cause heartburn every year for kids and we were in danger of losing some of our early enrollees this year. I'm really happy this didn't drag out any further and they didn't wait on Chip Kelly. If it had, we possibly would've lost some commits.

Even in a situation like this where it was very unlikely, kids were concerned. It doesn't matter what we say or think or do. It matters how it impacts the program and its negatively impacted the program every year, whether it's recruiting or our former gump of an AD giving him a huge raise and extension. Glad to see Cohen nut up this year. At least that's what the initial indications have been.

And you do realize Cohen could be at fault also by playing damn hardball and forced Mullen and Sextons hand. Give Mullen and extension get him to sign it and then you can say hey look he just signed an extension he isn't going anywhere.

But no instead we try to play damn hardball and have it blow up in our face in recruiting.
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

So no where in this do y'all think that what's best for Mullen is what's best for MSU? When this board started it was great because the whole point was to do what's best for Msu and screw Ole Miss. now it seems like we want to out six pack six pack. My point is can't we get back to doing what's best for Msu and screwing ole miss. Seems like more fun to me

Yep
12-07-2016, 09:42 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

It's one of five reasons: 1) They aren't our fans but would like you to think they are. 2) They are stupid. 3) They have a raging case of Poor Ole State. 4) They are more fond of their internet cred than they are of MSU and want to be the first to break something. They keep throwing things against the wall in hopes that one day it will stick. Then they can go back and say I told you so. 5) They are part of the very small but vocal minority that wants Mullen gone. Keeping the rumors (even ones with no basis whatsoever) going is their way of trying to get rid of him.

My guess is 3, 4, and 5.
12-07-2016, 09:43 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

And you do realize Cohen could be at fault also by playing damn hardball and forced Mullen and Sextons hand. Give Mullen and extension get him to sign it and then you can say hey look he just signed an extension he isn't going anywhere.

But no instead we try to play damn hardball and have it blow up in our face in recruiting.

THIS. That would squelch the rumors. Y'all are all saying we shouldn't extend it and that he hasn't been offered one. Actions speak way louder than words.
12-07-2016, 09:46 AM
ShotgunDawg

I don't think Mullen wants to leave. I think Mullen just likes to look at his options & feel things out.

If Mullen truly wanted to leave, he'd be long gone by now. The fact that he's still hear after being a candidate for so many jobs, tells me that he likes to listen, but no one ever meets what he wants.
12-07-2016, 09:47 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Dan Mullen. He was the head coach.

Hahahahahaha you should go back and revisit the long ass thread from a few weeks ago. I know you didn't like it because you quit.
12-07-2016, 09:49 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Hahahahahaha you should go back and revisit the long ass thread from a few weeks ago. I know you didn't like it because you quit.

Anyone who doesn't give Mullen a ton of credit in developing Dak is a moron. He has been a QB coach his entire career (an incredibly successful one) and remains heavily involved in QB development. He is one of the best QB coaches in the country.
12-07-2016, 09:49 AM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Y'all need to get over the rumors. The FACT is that nationally Mullen is seen as have done an almost impossibly great job here. There are always going to be rumors about him leaving because of that FACT. It's not going to matter one bit what he says. He knows that. Most of us know that. If you want a coach without rumors of him leaving the only way you are going to get one is hire one that does so bad that no one in his right mind would even think about trying to hire him away. If the rumors are so damaging why do we help spread them?

We don't report rumors unless its title "rumor" or "I'm hearing" or "adding two plus two it could be." I'm not sure where that's coming from. Media reported Mullen's name with Oregon. Period. Posters here put it on the board.

Last year was different because there was a deal in place until Richt got canned. He was as good as gone, but he got the rug pulled out from under him. It created a mess in the athletic department and with our upper management at the school, which is probably (see.. <--- unconfirmed here), in part, why we saw turnover this year from a lifelong State guy. The money and opportunity were probably the main reasons, but dealing with this BS every year wears on people (including the Mullen's, Keenum's, and now the Cohen tribe).
12-07-2016, 09:50 AM
basedog

Mullen and group handled this rumor by far the best in his 8 years. No comment of a foolish rumor.

Mullen has stated the same answer to the same question every year, "I want comment on rumors", why can't folks especially Msu fans get this? But yet, "the agenda folks" want to continue to find ways to bash a Coach who has been successful for 8 years overall and fixing to be 9. Eventually some will get it right, after all the play station games can be played over and over to you finally win.

Now back to hopefully a win in a bowl game.
12-07-2016, 09:52 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

If the rumors hurt the program then why help spread them? We KNOW recruits and their parents look at this board.

I didn't spread a rumor you ****ing dolt... I passed along what was in black and white from a national sports news source.
12-07-2016, 09:52 AM
Really Clark?

What's the sources saying on Dan's contract extension?
12-07-2016, 09:52 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I don't think Mullen wants to leave. I think Mullen just likes to look at his options & feel things out.

If Mullen truly wanted to leave, he'd be long gone by now. The fact that he's still hear after being a candidate for so many jobs, tells me that he likes to listen, but no one ever meets what he wants.

His wife has a lot to do with him staying. She has had many conversations about Msu football and Starkville.
12-07-2016, 09:55 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

Anyone who doesn't give Mullen a ton of credit in developing Dak is a moron. He has been a QB coach his entire career (an incredibly successful one) and remains heavily involved in QB development. He is one of the best QB coaches in the country.

You have no idea what I'm talking about. No one ever said Mullen gets no credit. Go find the thread if you want the whole story.
12-07-2016, 09:58 AM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting

So no where in this do y'all think that what's best for Mullen is what's best for MSU? When this board started it was great because the whole point was to do what's best for Msu and screw Ole Miss. now it seems like we want to out six pack six pack. My point is can't we get back to doing what's best for Msu and screwing ole miss. Seems like more fun to me

Oh no, we're well on our way but a 5-7 team isn't what's best for MSU. Also, ole miss was handing us our asses annually until the NCAA knocked he breath out of Hugh Freeze and they forgot how to tackle. This board will always hammer the school up north. And we're supportive of Dan when he's doing crap that makes sense, like running AW instead of BH, or not letting locker rooms issues fester with the QBs causing team rifts, or getting our early enrollees whatever confirmation they need to know he's not leaving.

That's another thing I want to clear up. Mullen doesn't need to tell the world he's not going anywhere, but he needs to make sure our commits and targets know that. And they weren't comfortable as of early this week that he's 100% going to be here. That can't happen and that's why some people want a more concerted effort from him on the recruiting trail. What makes me shake my head is how anyone could be perfectly happy (I'm happy with the QB guru, but not perfectly happy) with a 5-7 coach that's not giving 110% effort down the stretch in recruiting year after year after year. Whether that's because of the free lunch program his OL coach is on or him not making an effort to personally tell every kid that he's 100% committed to being at State. And I'm sure he's told some that, but not all.
12-07-2016, 09:58 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

What's the sources saying on Dan's contract extension?

Well I guess a several people, ahem, that are very well connected, would have to let us know. As it stands there isn't an extension right now we know about so your guess is as good as anyone's. I guess.
12-07-2016, 10:01 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Oh no, we're well on our way but a 5-7 team isn't what's best for MSU. Also, ole miss was handing us our asses annually until the NCAA knocked he breath out of Hugh Freeze and they forgot how to tackle. This board will always hammer the school up north. And we're supportive of Dan when he's doing crap that makes sense, like running AW instead of BH, or not letting locker rooms issues fester with the QBs causing team rifts, or getting our early enrollees whatever confirmation they need to know he's not leaving.

That's another thing I want to clear up. Mullen doesn't need to tell the world he's not going anywhere, but he needs to make sure our commits and targets know that. And they weren't comfortable as of early this week that he's 100% going to be here. That can't happen and that's why some people want a more concerted effort from him on the recruiting trail. What makes me shake my head is how anyone could be perfectly happy (I'm happy with the QB guru, but not perfectly happy) with a 5-7 coach that's not giving 110% effort down the stretch in recruiting year after year after year. Whether that's because of the free lunch program his OL coach is on or him not making an effort to personally tell every kid that he's 100% committed to being at State. And I'm sure he's told some that, but not all.

Oh shit no it couldn't be this message...not from an ED stockholder. We just want to be right we don't give a shit about MSU. So ****ing stupid.
12-07-2016, 10:02 AM
Cooterpoot

Taggart was interviewed before anyone else and this "source" didn't know? WTH? It was all over their boards and newspapers. Mullen never even interviewed. There was no interest there on his part. But, let's see now, that's Miami, Georgia, Oregon, Maryland........we must have a pretty damn good coach for all these schools to want him.
12-07-2016, 10:03 AM
WinningIsRelentless

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Inaccurate. We want Mullen to turn his recruiting around. These job rumors cause heartburn every year for kids and we were in danger of losing some of our early enrollees this year. I'm really happy this didn't drag out any further and they didn't wait on Chip Kelly. If it had, we possibly would've lost some commits.

Even in a situation like this where it was very unlikely, kids were concerned. It doesn't matter what we say or think or do. It matters how it impacts the program and its negatively impacted the program every year, whether it's recruiting or our former gump of an AD giving him a huge raise and extension. Glad to see Cohen nut up this year. At least that's what the initial indications have been.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Oh no, we're well on our way but a 5-7 team isn't what's best for MSU. Also, ole miss was handing us our asses annually until the NCAA knocked he breath out of Hugh Freeze and they forgot how to tackle. This board will always hammer the school up north. And we're supportive of Dan when he's doing crap that makes sense, like running AW instead of BH, or not letting locker rooms issues fester with the QBs causing team rifts, or getting our early enrollees whatever confirmation they need to know he's not leaving.

That's another thing I want to clear up. Mullen doesn't need to tell the world he's not going anywhere, but he needs to make sure our commits and targets know that. And they weren't comfortable as of early this week that he's 100% going to be here. That can't happen and that's why some people want a more concerted effort from him on the recruiting trail. What makes me shake my head is how anyone could be perfectly happy (I'm happy with the QB guru, but not perfectly happy) with a 5-7 coach that's not giving 110% effort down the stretch in recruiting year after year after year. Whether that's because of the free lunch program his OL coach is on or him not making an effort to personally tell every kid that he's 100% committed to being at State. And I'm sure he's told some that, but not all.

And your fearless leader said Mullen would be a top 5 coach if he won 6 games this year. We are a chip shot fg from our kicker who has gone through 2 operations this year for bulging disk away from having 6 wins.
12-07-2016, 10:03 AM
Intramural All-American

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I didn't spread a rumor you ****ing dolt... I passed along what was in black and white from a national sports news source.

All you had to do was leave off the last sentence in your initial post, and there is no issue. But of course that won't happen because you have an agenda. I don't know if you and C34 are more upset that Mullen is still our coach, or that y'all were wrong about Mullen still being our coach. Either way, y'all do more harm than good by trying to convince people he wants out.
12-07-2016, 10:04 AM
basedog

Whoever thinks Mullen was a finalist is foolish, maybe in the eyes of Oregon, but Mullen himself was never a finalist.

Espn is full of rumors everyday, but so are many so call experts.
12-07-2016, 10:05 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Hahahahahaha you should go back and revisit the long ass thread from a few weeks ago. I know you didn't like it because you quit.

I got tired of it. It's like this: Y'all like to bash Mullen for everything that goes bad. By that logic you have to credit him with everything that goes well. Mullen developed Dak.
12-07-2016, 10:06 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

All you had to do was leave off the last sentence in your initial post, and there is no issue. But of course that won't happen because you have an agenda. I don't know if you and C34 are more upset that Mullen is still our coach, or that y'all were wrong about Mullen still being our coach. Either way, y'all do more harm than good by trying to convince people he wants out.

Yep
12-07-2016, 10:06 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Well I guess a several people, ahem, that are very well connected, would have to let us know. As it stands there isn't an extension right now we know about so your guess is as good as anyone's. I guess.

There is one, but he doesn't post here.
12-07-2016, 10:07 AM
Cooterpoot

This season was very much like 2013. We just lost too many games on the front end of the schedule that we should've won. A quality kicker gets us 2 wins, despite that shitalicious defense.
12-07-2016, 10:08 AM
EAVdog

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

We don't report rumors unless its title "rumor" or "I'm hearing" or "adding two plus two it could be." I'm not sure where that's coming from. Media reported Mullen's name with Oregon. Period. Posters here put it on the board.

Last year was different because there was a deal in place until Richt got canned. He was as good as gone, but he got the rug pulled out from under him. It created a mess in the athletic department and with our upper management at the school, which is probably (see.. <--- unconfirmed here), in part, why we saw turnover this year from a lifelong State guy. The money and opportunity were probably the main reasons, but dealing with this BS every year wears on people (including the Mullen's, Keenum's, and now the Cohen tribe).

I was told by someone who worked in the UGA Athletic Dept. under McGarity, in October, that Richt was going to be gone. And he told me Mullen was going to be offered the job. And those jobs aren't offered unless it is strongly believed that it'll be accepted. Take it for what it's worth.

I have no idea what happened after that but I'm just going to say Kirby Smart was not their first choice. I spoke with him after Smart was announced and I got the impression that Dan turned them down. I know the anti-Mullen crowd won't accept that but I was told all this before Richt ever got fired so I have no reason to not believe this guy.

Which is why I'm really not worried about Dan going anywhere unless it's some major opportunity.
12-07-2016, 10:08 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

And your fearless leader said Mullen would be a top 5 coach if he won 6 games this year. We are a chip shot fg from our kicker who has gone through 2 operations this year for bulging disk away from having 6 wins.

More like 7 or 8 actually.
12-07-2016, 10:09 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

All you had to do was leave off the last sentence in your initial post, and there is no issue. But of course that won't happen because you have an agenda. I don't know if you and C34 are more upset that Mullen is still our coach, or that y'all were wrong about Mullen still being our coach. Either way, y'all do more harm than good by trying to convince people he wants out.

The last sentence was appropriate because it mentioned OUR head coach. I'm on the record as not being a Mullenite and I have no problem with ever being wrong. If it doesn't matter whether Mullen denies job rumors then what does it matter what this board reports. Shouldn't have any effect at all so why such the butthurt..
12-07-2016, 10:11 AM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

And your fearless leader said Mullen would be a top 5 coach if he won 6 games this year. We are a chip shot fg from our kicker who has gone through 2 operations this year for bulging disk away from having 6 wins.

Should've had more than 6. And I though we'd win between 7-9 so we underachieved IMO. However, one bad year isn't justification for making changes or even placing a coach in the hot seat. The only thing that bothered me this year is that he had lost the locker room completely at the beginning of the season, but he got it back. As long as he has that, he can win at State. And just for the record I don't think we've ever had or will ever have again a QB coach as good as Mullen. It's in our best interest that he work out long term, but last year's coaching changes and his flirting hurt us bad. That was part of the reason for the hangover into this year. When these December games stop happening, January's will mean much more for us
12-07-2016, 10:12 AM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

And your fearless leader said Mullen would be a top 5 coach if he won 6 games this year. We are a chip shot fg from our kicker who has gone through 2 operations this year for bulging disk away from having 6 wins.

How many wins do we have?
12-07-2016, 10:13 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Intramural All-American

All you had to do was leave off the last sentence in your initial post, and there is no issue. But of course that won't happen because you have an agenda. I don't know if you and C34 are more upset that Mullen is still our coach, or that y'all were wrong about Mullen still being our coach. Either way, y'all do more harm than good by trying to convince people he wants out.

Wrong about what exactly? I reported he was looking to get another job. ESPN reported he was a finalist for the Oregon job. He didn't get it- Taggert did.

Looks like I've nailed it aGAIN. It's not my fault nobody will hire Mullen. As I said- he picked a bad year to go 5-7
12-07-2016, 10:13 AM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I know Twitter is the end all be all for all the ****ing stupid millennials out there but a simple click on ESPN.com, and I know it's not the greatest so spare my that stupid shit, on the Taggart to Oregon link and the third paragraph says according to a source Taggart and Mullen were the 2 finalists.

So yeah every off season our "fans" do this...no every off season our ****ing head coach does this.

So you're telling me that you can't read in between the lines when they mention the "finalists"? If Taggart and Mullen really were the finalists and Taggart was selected, the ONLY conclusion that can be drawn from that is that Mullen told them thanks but no thanks. No competent or even remotely coherent administration would select Willie F-ing Taggart over Dan Mullen if they actually had a choice. Its just laughable. Its like saying in 2008 that Dan Mullen was chosen between two finalists that included himself and Chris Peterson because he was "just a better fit for the program". The Oregon "sources" are just trying to prop up the job by throwing another big name in with Taggart to drum up fake interest. Ole Miss PR 101.
12-07-2016, 10:14 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

How many wins do we have?

We only won 5 games. We were unable to accomplish exactly what I said we probably wouldn't do
12-07-2016, 10:18 AM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Taggart was interviewed before anyone else and this "source" didn't know? WTH? It was all over their boards and newspapers. Mullen never even interviewed. There was no interest there on his part. But, let's see now, that's Miami, Georgia, Oregon, Maryland........we must have a pretty damn good coach for all these schools to want him.

Exactly.

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