Plus, Oregon's real problem right now is putting a competent defense on the field? How much is Dan going to help with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
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Plus, Oregon's real problem right now is putting a competent defense on the field? How much is Dan going to help with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
THIS! This has been one of the big problems we have had with Dan that hurts our recruiting. Even if he ultimately interviews and even leaves...come out now publicly and say you are not leaving...you are happy as hell here at State...and you are looking forward to working towards championships at MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Say publicly you are not speaking to anyone about another job...that you are happy where your are, and plan to be here for years to come.
Sept. 2****Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
CHARLESTON SOUTHERN*****
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
[b]Win[b]
Sept. 9* ******
at Louisiana Tech *******************************
Ruston, La. (Joe Aillet Stadium)
Win
Sept. 16 ***************
LSU * **************************************************
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
Loss
Sept. 23****************
at Georgia * ***************************************
Athens, Ga. (Sanford Stadium)
Toss up
Sept. 30* **********
at Auburn * *************************************
Auburn, Ala. (Jordan Hare Stadium)
Toss up favoring Auburn
Oct. 14 ************
BYU ************************************
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
Win
Oct. 21********************
KENTUCKY *
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
Revenge: Win
Oct. 28
at Texas A&M * ********************
College Station, Texas (Kyle Field)
Toss up favoring A&M
Nov. 4************
UMASS
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium) *
Win
Nov. 11 ****
ALABAMA * ****
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
Loss
Nov. 18 ***********
at Arkansas *
Fayetteville, Ark. (Razorback Stadium)
We have been good against Arkansas recentely: Toss up
Nov. 23 (Thu.) **
OLE MISS * **************************
Starkville, Miss. (Davis Wade Stadium)
Win
I have 6 wins and several tossups. We could win 8. Gonna have to have a lot fall into place on the road in the SEC.
I don't Understand why people are so high on fleck. He went from a receivers coach to a head coach in the MAC, where's he's gone a whopping 30-21. Seems kinda prisoner of the moment to be in love with that guy.
Take out his first season where he won one game and then look at his record and look at Western Michigan's history. He would be an absolute home run of a hire. His only weakness is no one on his staff with Mississippi ties.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
CDM needs to shoot this shit down ASAP.. Wether he is an actual candidate, interviews for it , or whatever he needs to address it now.
Do exactly what Herman did and let your agent handle all the dirty stuff.. This EE class is super important.
And Other schools are using this against us. believe what you want but this could spiral downward really fast over the next few days..
Fleck is great. Throwing out overall record for a coach who took over a dumpster fire is always a way people try to discredit those coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
Dabo also went from WR coach to HC.
Yep, I agree. But Dan ain't gonna do it. It's not his style. He enjoys this shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Shoot what down? Is he going to need to constantly shoot down every random blog rumor that our own fans then blow out of proportion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
If this stuff actually hurts our recruiting, then threads like this are far more to blame than Mullen not coming out publicly to turn down a job he was never offered.
We will win Atleast 2 of these...Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Auburn, aTm, UGA, Arky.
There are only two knocks with Fleck. First is the ra-ra stuff he does is contrived or comes off that way. He will either have to tone it down (which I believe he would) or it has to be the perfect fit with the majority of the fan base and recruiting base to embrace that. Secondly, W Mich to a mid-upper tier Power 5 program is a big jump. He may be better served to going to Cincinnati first. There are still many who think he is in play with Oregon but there were a lot of rumors that if he was the guy he would interview Fri night early Sat morning and be named quickly. That didn't happen and they have already interviewed at least 4 guys and conducting interviews in NY today as well.
Yes to the first....You're naive with that second paragraphQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I thought these type threads were getting locked?
It's more than "random blog rumors". Pete Thamel has mentioned it, as have multiple sources. Let's not pretend it's not "out there" being talked about nationally.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
And how much time does it take to simply make a statement each time something like this comes up? It's not that hard. Others have done it. When a coach doesn't do it...the speculation that it's true grows, and it's used against us in recruiting.
And it can't be some cute non-denial denial, like, "I don;t know where that's coming from, and that's just a sign people are excited about what we're accomplishing in Starkville", etc.
Make a definitive statement that you are NOT interested in the other job. The rumors are unfounded and you are completely focused solely on the job at hand at MSU.
Do that, or don't get an extension when you might next otherwise deserve one.
It doesn't matter. McElwain just did that and are still rumors with him today stronger than Mullen. Going so far to say he is working behind the scenes to get the job. It can and will still be used until they name a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
It doesn't matter. McElwain just did that and are still rumors with him today stronger than Mullen. Going so far to say he is working behind the scenes to get the job. It can and will still be used until they name a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
Yep. Besides, he may actually want to see what they have to offer while being perfectly content with staying in Starkville...so coming out with a statement can make him look like a liarQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
One year seems a little quick to tack that label on him. Prior to this year wasn't there only one loss in 7 years when favored?Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
While I don't think there's much to the Oregon reports, I think Dan would be good anywhere he went. Great? Maybe, maybe not.
But at least Mcilwain came out and said it. Let the agent do the behind the scenes shit.
If we had given him a contract extension I would agree ... but there is no way he will deny it while waiting on an extension - at least I wouldn't if it were me... that's just not the smart moveQuote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
Doesn't matter. Oregon isn't coming after Mullen for the tune of $18 million over the next two years. That's what this would cost them. It's not happening.
It does matter. If he's lying he can always backtrack like Saban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
That's including the buyout correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Oregon is blowing media skirts up. Mullen isn't the splash they want.
The point is it hasn't stopped anything being rumored.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
And it won't. If recruits will believe something in the media he's up for a job they will believe when Mullen comes out and says he's not. Part of the process. It's dumb buts it's real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I agree with that. He has to make sure to communicate with the recruits sincerely. That's the main thing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
Once our fans all get it through their heads that this is Mullen's job, and that he's not some fan that has bled maroon since birth...maybe we can all realize that job searches, job interviews, and playing ball to get more money is just part of the "business" that he is a part of.
Quit expecting more from Mullen than you would from yourself with your own job.
Do you really think recruiting battles are won by what you tell the Clarion Ledger?Quote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
I figure if you can't communicate that with a recruit face to face, you aren't getting that recruit anyway.
Are there any so-called "documented cases" of recruits being lost because of what Dan says to reporters? I think Dan being more Bjork-like with regards to job rumors would keep a certain percentage of the fanbase from being butt-hurt, but would have little to do with recruiting battles.
If I was looking around and my supervisors found out you better believe that they would want a yes/no response from me. Asking Dan to reaffirm his commitment is not irrational or out of line at all. Whether the job offer is real or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
And he has probably informed his....John Cohen. Not Cadaverdawg or Todd4StateQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
If that's the case then the next step is to put something out publicly because of the nature of his position. We'll see of that happens. Welcome to bring an AD John!Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
And Dan might want to inform Keenum too. In fact that would actually be who I would inform first in his case.
Lol, You expect Keenum & Cohen to be contacted by Mullen about every Bleacher Report rumor? Mullen doesn't have to do shit...he's not getting a contract extension so he's got leverage. It's the nature of the business. Would you rather him be like Saban, tell us he's staying and then leave anyway? Our fans Saying he "must disspell the rumors" is just so funny to me. As if you'd do it if it were Your jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Pretty sure Keenum and Cohen know what is going on. I don't blame Mullen, I wouldn't say anything either, remember he hasn't received a contract extension. Oregon is gonna put out a bunch of coaches thrown into their mix, it makes them look better nationally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Btw, I think Oregon has probably been turned down by a couple of coaches.
I would love to know who you think we could get that would be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Damn...somebody gets it
most the time if a college doesn't have the money right then to buyout the contract the two schools will arrange a payment plan or some other agreements. this is just his agent doing work.
Exactly! He doesn't have to hold a presser just because a bunch of keyboard cowboys get excited about every rumor of him leaving. A year from now it will become "Mullen was lobbying for the Oregon job".Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
C'mon...you know we've blown opportunities vs favored teams because Dan was stubborn, or blew clock-management (Auburn come to mind?), or got stupid with play-calling (2014 vs Bama), etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Don't focus on favored or not favored. Look at games that were close losses where we wasted a few drives running Perkins or Holloway up the middle, or gave away a drive or 2 because Dan was content to go to the half holing onto timeouts, etc.