Then there are going to be some furious people out there. Hiring a guy who has zero experience just so we can hire Cohen as AD would be the dumbest thing we could possibly do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steakonastick
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Then there are going to be some furious people out there. Hiring a guy who has zero experience just so we can hire Cohen as AD would be the dumbest thing we could possibly do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steakonastick
Yea great idea Todd turn the new AD thread into another fire Mullen thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And here's something else to think about- what if Cohen decides all of a sudden he doesn't like being the AD and he misses coaching baseball? That could get awkward with whomever the baseball coach is. I can't see Tim Corbin going "Oh, OK I'll just be the volunteer assistant now." Actually I can't see very many coaches doing that.
Would you prefer another Fitz should throw left handed thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
The only way I'd ever get behind this is if we had a HR hire lined up. And an inexperienced assistant ain't it. Period.
Over a fire Mullen thread, yes actually I would prefer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Before will Redmond?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You like it? I know you pretty plugged in on baseballQuote:
Originally Posted by Steakonastick
Besides Corbin, what other HR hire could there be? Who else has consistently won NC or been to the finals?
Brian O'Conner- not coming to a SEC West school as long as Manieri is at LSU, Holliday at Oklahoma State who has deep family ties there, Gilmore at Coastal Carolina where he is an alum among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
Not steak but Cannozarro has a lot of MLB ties and ties to Louisiana. He's actually a Tulane alum and he is LSU's recruiting coordinator. He just hasn't been coaching for very long.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Here's something scary to think about- he's a Tulane alum and they passed over him for head coach.
Why would 2012 be a deciding factor for job searching in 2015? Not following that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And that's why I would be very pessimistic if this is the best we could do as MSU baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He would just use the advantages we have here to his advantage. Corbin is Vanderbilt baseball as I stated a billion times. Their program will turn to shit when he leaves. If Vandy has all of these advantages as you say it does, why did it take Corbin to realize them? Vandy's program was shit when he got there and it will be shit again when he leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Look for O'Conner from UVA or the hitting coach from LSU to be named Head Coach of our baseball program if this happens.
Also, from what I've been told Strick was told to look around by Mark. Mark told him he needed to do something about some assistants on the football team and Strick refused to press the issue on Mullen.
Cohen knows how to recruit to Starkville as well as Howland. If they're bringing big time guys here, so can our football coach. The talent we have here is a result of someone wanting to get out and handing recruiting over to Sleepy and Tony while he, Gonzo look for HC jobs. Cohen also will demand excellence from his coaches, I think it has a potential to be a great hire.
It would be an absolute fail if we go with Cannozarro, he may end up being a good coach. I don't want to be the school that finds out if he can sink or swim as a HC especially when we are getting close to getting our new stadium etc. Honestly, I think Cohen might could make a good AD but, I think what is best for MSU right now is for Cohen to stick to baseball for several more years. Let us get the stadium built and hopefully he snags an NC at some point in the near future and then I would be fine with him replacing whoever takes over as AD. But, we are just now getting stable in baseball and all it will take is one tank of a hire to send us right back to where we were. If we had some of the built in advantages that LSU, UF, and Vandy have then I wouldn't be nearly as nervous. Obviously our baseball job is a pretty coveted one but it is not a top 3-5 job like some would like to think.
I've actually heard this too, but he's so young I can't see that being it. Maybe they're trying to get him before he becomes the next big thing, but that's a risky move to hand your program over to guy with such little experience coaching at a major level. He's super talented though. Just not a lot of experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steakonastick
I can't buy into Cohen being it with the way this has unfolded. It would make Keenum look like he's completely lost.
Absolutely!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
I do not know much about him. Except all the national baseball guys drool over him. He is seen as the next Dan McDonnell. I would be more worried if we did not have a Gary Henderson on staff. And I can't see Cohen leaving the program to some idiot.
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Originally Posted by MarketingBully
Yup!
Dak made things more bearable... I don't know. I put 3 seconds of thought in that post, which is less than my normal 5 hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
How? Bonner was wrong and that's obvious. Details people.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Andy Cannizaro will be our next baseball coach. He's making about 400K now and will be making a little over a million as our new coach.
Bonner was right all along, he just let the cat out of the bag and it pissed Keenum off.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Word is Mullen supports Cohen. Cohen is demanding coaching changes, insert Hev, and Mullen respects him. Mullen WILL be our football coach next year. Our next baseball coach will be Brian O'Connor from VA. It's time to take advantage guys!!
Wait a second, Cohen and Howland know how to recruit to State? Half the fans were ready to fire Cohen a couple years ago. His program defines rollercoaster. He had one big year like Mullen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Howland has yet to prove a damn thing on the court. So the jury is still out on him.
Maybe it's my profession, but I don't see it that way. He said the search was over (we've interviewed at least four people since then, so all evidence is to the contrary), Cohen had been chosen (to believe this you would have to believe we interviewed at least four people just for show and there is zero evidence of that), and it would be announced on Tuesday (factually wrong).Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Why? For not wanting the news of this to get out yet? Even if Cohen was and is the lead candidate but they were going to interview others, I would'nt want the news out prematurely either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
Ummm...I'm guessing you missed it, but Howland has a pretty good record of success on the court. Certainly the jury was out on whether he could recruit to MSU, but I think his track record already puts the jury in on that one, and he can recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He doesn't have that track record at State. I don't care if his classes are top 10 every year if we don't win games. He's still got to prove he can win games here. Using him as an example of success at State just isn't possible yet. People forget, Mullen's classes, while low in the SEC, are still some of the highest rated classes State has seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
There is a right way to dispute that report and a wrong way. Keenum painted himself in a corner for no reason. He looks awful when we hire Cohen. Absolutely pathatics optics on this one and that's the president of the university. Go reread the statement he put out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
This all damn day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
If Cohen is the guy, you ignore the report or simply say he is a candidate.
Keenun comes across terrible in this shitshow.
Cohen is like Ricky Bobby. He pisses excellence! He won't let lazy staff members get pay checks like HevQuote:
Originally Posted by Bucky Dog
This. I could handle Cohen as AD as long as we end up with a legit home run hire for baseball. I don't want to bring in some experiment with a 50/50 shot of having success. We SHOULD be able to get damn near any coach in the country. The thought of Cannozaro or some other "hot" assistant really does concern me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BB30
Only if you ignore details.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
His statement never said we would not hire Cohen, only that the search was not over. Keenum has never said we would not hire Cohen. Only that the search was not over.
From what I've heard & the plan that is in place, it looks to be a very good plan. Guys be patient & see what unfolds. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
If any of you think Cohen won't demand excellence, I don't know what to say. Cohen is a very intelligent individual & has been grooming for this long before he was given a title.
Check your PMsQuote:
Originally Posted by tireddawg
Not really. If they hadn't made the decision to hire Cohen yet, even if they were leaning in that direction, then he was completely in the right to get pissed about it. Especially if they were still doing interviews, and he claimed they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Oh goodness, now we're trying to get Keenum fired?Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
You people are insane.
Im not saying fire or anything like that but HSV's post is dead onQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness