I think it's really a lack of players stepping up and being leaders and, well, Mullen. I'm telling you, and most people see it, but for whatever reason he simply isn't motivated. Whether he's tired of the job or dealing with the bad season with a bad attitude, whatever it is, it's trickling down to the rest of the team - coaches, too. This team needs people to look up to.
How do you explain the lack of blocking on the offensive side of the ball? And I'm not just talking o-line. Wimberly had a tweet where one of our WR's just flat out missed his block.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You've also been telling us that Coman is better than McLaurin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Exactly. This starts from the top. It's not just the defensive side of the ball. It's both sides. And it's not just manifested in tackling and blocking. There are dropped passes and bad routes by the WR's. Our running backs do seem to run pretty hard of course one mistake and they know they're getting pulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by BossDawg
Bingo. A lot of what I'm watching has zero to do with talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodaski
These guys better be glad they don't play for Bear Bryant. I could see another Junction Boys happening. In Bear's book he talked about that center that had made all-conference the year before he got to A&M, so Bear thought he must be a pretty good player. While watching film of the previous season he noticed that center and all the center did was wallow around not hitting anyone. Pissed Bear off so bad that he had made all-conference the previous season, that he swore the center would either earn all-conference the next year cause of his play or he'd run him off. Told his coaching staff that. If I remember correctly, he told the Oline coach if the center made all-conference the upcoming season while playing like that the Oline coach would be fired.
So Bear was riding the center hard as hell in practice and the center walked off the field during the first or second practice ... Bear had never had anyone do that before. Bear was told by another one of the players that the center had done this before and always came back to the team. So that night the center tried to get in line for chow. Bear went up to him and said "Only A&M football players eat here son".
That story reminds me of one of our O linemen I've been watching the last 2 years. He hardly ever, if ever, lays a good hit on someone. He doesn't make all-conference tho.
why don't you all just curse them all the day long ... that's really gonna help ... Thanks Shotgun for getting another thread started where everyone just publicly bashes our players ... I guess it makes for good reading material for our potential recruits so what the hell **
I love when Fishdawg posts- his Sig really says it all:
C-34: on NOV 30, 2015
"But if you think we overachieved this season- you are an idiot. If Mullen wins more than 6 next year- that will be overachieving".
#agenda
Who is Jake Wimberly and where does he coach?
Maybe they're out of position because of lack of effort or hustle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/331...nd-blown-o.gif
He's a radio talk show host at 5pm on 105.9 in jackson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Rabbit Dawg
think he also calls the brandon high school games, but not 100%
I see the same. Smoke actually did a good job containing the guy. Forcing the guy to cut back toward the sideline and angling him off. Wimbley should have stopped at "Kentucky did a good job of blocking." That is correct. Their OL whipped us across the DL and at LB that play!Quote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless
What I see in all those videos. Isn't necessarily effort as much as it is linemen (O and D) that are slow. We are not quick enough at OL to cut off DLs slanting into the gap. Our OL isn't quick enough to pull and lead block a LB in the hole. On the other side, Our LBs aren't quick enough or strong enough to avoid and shed a block. OUr DL is getting whipped out by their OL.
One of those clips, he calls our OLB out for lack of hustle. However, what happens on that play. UK's 74 and their LG shoves our DT across the line, then 74 peals off and seals off our LB. Their RG pulls and locks up our MLB. 74 kicked our tail on that play. Our OLB (who is the focus of commentary) sees a hole develop, guesses that hole but the UK RB takes an inside hole and is through the inside hole before our OLB can get to him. Our OLB tried, he just read the hole wrong and the UK RB was quick enough to get through the hole. He says our OLB gave up on the play. Yet the OLB still makes the tackle down field.
We got all we could get at the time. I doubt any coach that has been on the defensive side of the ball under Mullen speaks highly of him. I doubt they are singing his praises to their friends so there is no interest whenever we make a phone call.Quote:
Originally Posted by DudyDawg
IMO, the play on the defensive side of the ball is all about the constant revolving door of defensive coaching staffs. 95% of that is on Mullen. I get Manny going back on his word so he can "go back home", but pretty much the rest is on Mullen. We have zero continuity on defense. Different coaches, different schemes, players that have had to live thru all that. Players have seen the coaches leave who recruited them. Most players can figure out why they left. It adds up to what we are witnessing this year on the field. I don't know if Sirmon can be a successful DC. He is definitely not there yet and still learning. At this point though, I would say we need to give him and his staff some time if for no other reason than we need some stability there.
I actually think the team is playing hard. I really don't have a problem with the effort in the BYU or Kentucky game. I thought we played hard, we just aren't very talented.
The NFL draft will prove me right this year and next.
I dusky see eye to eye with you, but we disagree here. I think we're in for a major rebuild in the OL, which means it's going to be 2-3 years easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Hack is right, football rebuilds just take longer than baseball, especially when you have talent problems up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
The reason Mullen was able to turn things around so quickly was the talent up front that Croom left him either on he roster or committed.
By my count, Sherrod, Gabe, McPhee, Fletcher, Boyd, the NG who I can't recall, not counting KJ and Chris White.
We need an influx of NFL players on the OL and front seven. That takes time.
The defense is lost. Effort wanes when you aren't sure about what you're doing. Plus, losing several close games is incredibly destructive for morale. Ole Miss is going through the same thing, only at a different level poor play.
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Originally Posted by Political Hack
Ok - but how did USM rebuild so fast to be competitive? Didn't they bring in a huge amount of JUCOs and grad transfers after the 2014 season (and yes, I know SEC is different). Were they mainly skill guys or lineman? What I am getting at is that it is possible, but you have to hit on everyone and hope your young guys develop quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I watched the debacle but thanks Jake for encouraging me relive it again...under a microscope.
I went back and looked at this a second time to distinguish who the players were that were involved in these plays. Take this however you want, but one thing that stands out to me is the youth that is involved. Two plays out of 10 involved seniors, the rest, Fr or So, with one being Graham as a jr in his first extensive role as a db. Yes, we've all heard we're young until we're all blue in the face, but again, take it as you wish....There are 16 players that were singled out; 2 Sr, 1 Jr, 7 So, 6 Fr. 13 out of 16 either Fr. or So.
Play 1 - Jamoral Graham, Jr. first full season to play cb after being on offense before.
Play 2 - Fletcher Adams, Fr; Gerri Green, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 3 - Keith Mixon, Fr.
Play 4 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 5 - Ferrod Green, Fr; Michael Story, Fr.
Play 6 - Brandon Bryant, So; Jamal Peters, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 7 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 8 - DeAndre Ward, Sr. Walk-on.
Play 9 - Jamal Claiborne, Sr.
Play 10- Deddrick Thomas, Fr; Keith Mixon, Fr.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I went back and looked at this a second time to distinguish who the players were that were involved in these plays. Take this however you want, but one thing that stands out to me is the youth that is involved. Two plays out of 10 involved seniors, the rest, Fr or So, with one being Graham as a jr in his first extensive role as a db. Yes, we've all heard we're young until we're all blue in the face, but again, take it as you wish....There are 16 players that were singled out; 2 Sr, 1 Jr, 7 So, 6 Fr. 13 out of 16 either Fr. or So.
Play 1 - Jamoral Graham, Jr. first full season to play cb after being on offense before.
Play 2 - Fletcher Adams, Fr; Gerri Green, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 3 - Keith Mixon, Fr.
Play 4 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 5 - Ferrod Green, Fr; Michael Story, Fr.
Play 6 - Brandon Bryant, So; Jamal Peters, So; Mark McLauren, So.
Play 7 - Jamal Peters, So.
Play 8 - DeAndre Ward, Sr. Walk-on.
Play 9 - Jamal Claiborne, Sr.
Play 10- Deddrick Thomas, Fr; Keith Mixon, Fr.
he was right - I was wrong ... it will stay there until the end of this miserable season ..... not sure what the #agenda means but I hate to see our players being bashedQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
We don't play in CUSA so the comparison is simply ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Name an SEC school in the last 15 years that has rebuilt on the backs of Junior College players.
Auburn when they won the natty with Cam NewtonQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I said backs, not back. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That team had a lot HS talent all over the roster, but you're right if we can find a dynamic juco QB I'm all for it.
I don't understand why the comparison is ridiculous. The level of JUCOs we're getting aren't CUSA level... most all are being offered by sec teams. Had usm got JUCOs that no CUSA teams wanted, the JUCOs wouldn't have worked. Out of the 11 they took, at least 6 were offered by teams in CUSA or equal conferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
We took 6 JUCOs in '09 and only 2 worked out... the big turnaround in '10 wouldn't have been possible without those 2 (McPhee and Chris white). It was another juco in '10 class that really fueled that turnaround in Ballard
Some are. There are only a handful of elite juco players every year. Since we need some of these guys I see no reason to point out which ones, but let's put it like this, if juco players aren't taking official visits to a school, then usually that school doesn't really like them.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jucos are meant to help with specific depth issues on a team, not to build a team. Jucos are helpful when you need an 8th OL that can fill in if needed. If you are relying on a juco guy to come in and start, particularly on the OL or DL, you are going to be disappointed.
That 3-4 crap is never going to work. No pressure ever and get gashed every other play in the running game.need to put pressure on the qb to help a young secondary because we can't coverQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, it's shows that the right JUCO talent at a position of need can have a huge impact. Don't forget, Nick Fairley transferred in from Co-Lin that season before. So, no it isn't ridiculous AU would have been an 8-5 team without Cam and Nick.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
my manQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7