Has Alabama made the SEC Boring?

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10-15-2016, 04:53 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Missing 7 starters today bc of injury I think

Wouldn't matter. This looks like a cat toying with a mouse.
10-15-2016, 04:56 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Wouldn't matter. This looks like a cat toying with a mouse.

Maybe, but that's a crap load of missing starters... 32% of their starters are out
10-15-2016, 05:00 PM
TUSK

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Wouldn't matter. This looks like a cat toying with a mouse.

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10-15-2016, 05:12 PM
IMissJack

The SEC has the same problem in basketball, UK and everyone else.
10-15-2016, 05:13 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Maybe, but that's a crap load of missing starters... 32% of their starters are out

It is but Bama is in mid season dominate everyone mode and ut was vastly overrated. They could easily have 2 or 3 more losses without the horse shoe stuck up their butt that they dropped last Saturday.
10-15-2016, 05:13 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by TUSK

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Lol this an accurate description.
10-15-2016, 05:16 PM
LC Dawg

The fact that a Bama fan is on here discussing this while his team is playing #9 proves how boring it is. The regular season is like preseason for Bama. Early in they break in their new set of 5 stars and later they fine tune for the playoffs. The fact that Saban walks the sideline like a pissed off gnome the whole time is comical.
10-15-2016, 05:17 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

i just think there are plenty of things we can control that we could do better. Improve yourself, don't sit and wait for your surrounding environment to change.

I am 73 years old. I would like to believe for all those years Mississippi State has been trying as hard as they can to improve themselves. The powers of football haven't change much over those years. There is a reason why there are monopoly laws which in time become over come. The same needs to take place with college sports, which in time would be overcome. Money is power and money and power always wind up with the cream of the crop. We cannot improve ourselves to the level desired without rules that would help us for a time.
10-15-2016, 05:22 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by LC Dawg

The fact that a Bama fan is on here discussing this while his team is playing #9 proves how boring it is. The regular season is like preseason for Bama. Early in they break in their new set of 5 stars and later they fine tune for the playoffs. The fact that Saban walks the sideline like a pissed off gnome the whole time is comical.

This may be the best point of the entire thread. So true.

Tusk, you must really get nervous before & during games.......

Again, we all love college football, but it could be so much better than this. This product is horrible.

Verne & Gary call blowouts most every week
10-15-2016, 05:23 PM
ShotgunDawg

Now they are making Hurts out to be some kind of hero for accepting the challenge of coming to Alabama. Man....... what a challenge.... playing with all other 5 stars against other teams with very few.**
10-15-2016, 05:25 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by LC Dawg

The fact that a Bama fan is on here discussing this while his team is playing #9 proves how boring it is. The regular season is like preseason for Bama. Early in they break in their new set of 5 stars and later they fine tune for the playoffs. The fact that Saban walks the sideline like a pissed off gnome the whole time is comical.

easy there, turbo....***

sieg heil
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10-15-2016, 05:26 PM
Percho

I feel as if I help feed the monster as long as my (old) butt is in that seat at DWS. Will I ever learn?
10-15-2016, 05:27 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This may be the best point of the entire thread. So true.

Tusk, you must really get nervous before & during games.......

Again, we all love college football, but it could be so much better than this. This product is horrible.

Verne & Gary call blowouts most every week

not any more... but that's more a reflection of age/perspective than the current state of the program... I think...
10-15-2016, 05:28 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Cut scholarship total to 65 with 20 per year limit.

If you really want parity do above and make all scholarships 4 year contracts... no processing

As a baseball fan, id love to do this and give baseball scholarships to work with

There was a good start at this when they put the scholarship limitation in place to stop Bear Bryant from giving players scholarships just so other schools wouldn't get them. They might not have gone far enough. Only 11 players are on the field at any one time, 22 total when you count the defense. I don't see why you couldn't field a team with 65 scholarships ... you'd still have 43 "reserves". And while you're at it, cut out redshirting too (except possibly medical). 4 year contracts would essentially take care of that.
10-15-2016, 05:29 PM
Percho

They've scored every way possible.
10-15-2016, 05:29 PM
ShotgunDawg

Alabama has had 6 #1 one recruiting classes in a row.

That means that the best team in college football is monopolizing the 1st round draft picks of every high school football draft
10-15-2016, 05:32 PM
Taog Redloh

ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is. And yeah, there comes a point when the rich simply have too much. But they will always find a way to exploit.

This isn't an 'across the board' thing. It's a Saban thing.
10-15-2016, 05:32 PM
BayouDawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Alabama has had 6 #1 one recruiting classes in a row.

That means that the best team in college football is monopolizing the 1st round draft picks of every high school football draft

They should just go play in the NFC East
10-15-2016, 05:33 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

There was a good start at this when they put the scholarship limitation in place to stop Bear Bryant from giving players scholarships just so other schools wouldn't get them. They might not have gone far enough. Only 11 players are on the field at any one time, 22 total when you count the defense. I don't see why you couldn't field a team with 65 scholarships ... you'd still have 43 "reserves". And while you're at it, cut out redshirting too (except possibly medical). 4 year contracts would essentially take care of that.

Nfl plays with 53, but they can add from practice squad as needed. I do think 65 is sufficient though
10-15-2016, 05:33 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is.

I was waiting for this....

+1

Le'ts spread the wealth around....
10-15-2016, 05:36 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Folks, this is terrible TV ......

Yes they have and yes it is. It doesn't help that they are playing an SEC East team either. SEC East football 2010-present < SEC West basketball 2000's.
10-15-2016, 05:38 PM
Acid mouth

The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.
10-15-2016, 05:41 PM
IMissJack

Acid mouth, that pic is hilarious.
10-15-2016, 05:41 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is. And yeah, there comes a point when the rich simply have too much. But they will always find a way to exploit.

This isn't an 'across the board' thing. It's a Saban thing.

Should we take all regulation off? If you're pure capitalist, we should go no scholarship limits and no regulation on getting players (compliance).

I'm conservative, but we're talking about a game played for entertainment. NFL, MLB, and all pro sports have ways to try and keep things competitive for a better product. I have no problem with CFB doing the same. Now if the NCAA forces teams to take a certain amount of white boys on a basketball team, then yeah, that's too much haha
10-15-2016, 05:42 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is. And yeah, there comes a point when the rich simply have too much. But they will always find a way to exploit.

This isn't an 'across the board' thing. It's a Saban thing.

I agree with you completely. I don't like Hillary Clinton stuff in my social politics, but I like it in my sports.

Sports are about interest & TV, & the parity brings more interest & greater TV ratings.

What we are seeing on TV now in college football is trash & uninteresting.
10-15-2016, 05:43 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by Acid mouth

The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.

if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...
10-15-2016, 05:43 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by Acid mouth

The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.

You can go on and one as far as excuses as to why this has happened. Bottom line is, Alabama was one of the first programs to really invest in football, and it's paid dividends for them. There are tons and tons of sidewalk fans who are willing to give money to the football program, outside of their biggest donors. And there is plenty of talent in Alabama to start with. Yeah, they don't recruit only AL kids but that's what the foundation was built upon.

Meanwhile in MS, we split our major universities, and did nothing to grow the population. Dont' blame others for success.
10-15-2016, 05:47 PM
Noxdog

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Originally Posted by TUSK

if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...

Honestly tusk, I like you and normally don't mind you being here but GTFO ASAP please! Sick of the bama bullshit.
10-15-2016, 05:50 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by Noxdog

Honestly tusk, I like you and normally don't mind you being here but GTFO ASAP please! Sick of the bama bullshit.

sorry you feel that way, buddy.

I just respond to Bammer stuff (mostly) brought up by otheres... and I almost never start any Bammer threads.

Peace.
10-15-2016, 05:52 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by TUSK

sorry you feel that way, buddy.

I just respond to Bammer stuff (mostly) brought up by otheres... and I almost never start any Bammer threads.

Peace.

No one hates bama football more than me, but you cool. I like you here. Just gonna have to deal with a bunch of us here that are mad at the world right now.
10-15-2016, 05:53 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by TUSK

if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...

AJ got $350 K & I don't think Bama matched that. A buddy of mine that knows him well told me the other day. AJ told him
10-15-2016, 05:53 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I agree with you completely. I don't like Hillary Clinton stuff in my social politics, but I like it in my sports.

Sports are about interest & TV, & the parity brings more interest & greater TV ratings.

What we are seeing on TV now in college football is trash & uninteresting.

Haha, fair enough. And in reality - ever noticed how the things that get taken over by lib-tards are the ones that are too big to fail anyway? May as well get lib-tarded in football. You won't see many lib-tard policies in for-profit cutthroat business lines. Only in government, media and things like that, can lib-tard policies be implemented.
10-15-2016, 05:55 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

AJ got $350 K & I don't think Bama matched that. A buddy of mine that knows him well told me the other day. AJ told him

I heard similar story.
10-15-2016, 05:55 PM
Taog Redloh

Real Talk
10-15-2016, 05:58 PM
LC Dawg

Top 10 college football matchups are supposed to be can't miss entertainment and something football fans plan their Saturdays around even if it doesn't involve their team. Bama plays #6 A&M next week and I think I'd get more entertainment watching a Lifetime movie with my wife.
10-15-2016, 05:59 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

When the talent levels between Alabama and everyone else is so different, it's a terrible product.

Ask yourself what you love about college football.

I love the pageantry, stadiums, noise, passion, rivalries, & playing for the pride of a state and university, but I don't really like the game itself and the competition.

The potential of college football is so much greater than what we are currently seeing. The system alienates 90% of the fans. What business would want to do that?

How about we try to beat them instead of crying about how good they are, which is partly our fault for not recruiting and sucking as bad as we do
10-15-2016, 06:03 PM
Acid mouth

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Originally Posted by TUSK

if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...

Y'all won't get every player you offer but no one bats an eye when you get a 5 star OT from Texas or 5 star WR from Ohio. If a bottom tier SEC does it, they get a 4 year NCAA colonoscopy. Now the bears also screwed up by attempting to build a powerhouse overnight as opposed to taking several seasons. That's asking for an anal probe. Let me also add that the only team I hate more than the bears is the tide
10-15-2016, 06:04 PM
ShotgunDawg

65 scholarships
4 year scholarships
If a kid gets hurt or kicked off the team, he is immediately eligible to transfer to any school he wants, even SEC schools.
10-15-2016, 06:06 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

How about we try to beat them instead of crying about how good they are, which is partly our fault for not recruiting and sucking as bad as we do

Such an MSU attitude here. We & everyone else have been trying for 100 years & nothing has changed. At some point, maybe it's not just us & maybe the system has something to do with it

Your statement has nothing to do with my argument. I agree with you, we should do everything we can to catch up with them. No doubt.

However, if I'm a CBS or ESPN TV rep, I'm calling for rule changes because my games suck & the current rules are alienating 90% of power 5 college football fans
10-15-2016, 06:15 PM
TUSK

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Originally Posted by Acid mouth

Y'all won't get every player you offer but no one bats an eye when you get a 5 star OT from Texas or 5 star WR from Ohio. If a bottom tier SEC does it, they get a 4 year NCAA colonoscopy. Now the bears also screwed up by attempting to build a powerhouse overnight as opposed to taking several seasons. That's asking for an anal probe. Let me also add that the only team I hate more than the bears is the tide

all of that is true... however, when a perennial 30-50 ranked recruiting team shoots to top 10, there's usually something fishy going on....

Like you said, it needs to be gradual... and it can be done...

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