Dan Mullen is fired if...

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Originally Posted by Natedogg33

Hack, you've got explain why Strick would want to throw a season with everything we've got going on on campus. Between just building a new football complex and completely redoing out stadium.
Is Mullen, Byrne's guy, and he and Stricklin don't see eye to eye? Is Strick just using Mullen until its all done?

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CDM and Strick smile in public, but they don't hang out in private. People who have openly discussed their opinion that "Strick has no backbone" with CDM seem to win his favor, although he would never go as far as saying that or confirming it.

The other thing that irks me is the continual contact our guys have with Hud. I love HUD, and a huge supporter, and truly hope he's the next HFC at State, but it's hard to distinguish between "babysitting" to protect the next guy and a concerted effort to speed up the process.

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Originally Posted by T-Dogg

Is this sort of like your prediction regarding the OM freshman that would be held out because of the investigation. I'm starting to think you don't have any idea what your talking about.

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I also said OM wouldn't make a bowl game this year. You can save that one until later since you seem to be so happy about their "all in" attitude.

You act like an insider, and its pretty clear that you don't know any more than the rest of us, you just like conspiracy theories.

OM is under investigation, so the whole SEC is after them and they knew that they are going to get the death penalty.

Now, because our offense didn't do shit all game, there's an SEC conspiracy to get the almighty Mullen out of the SEC. Give me a break, man.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

You're last statement is what's so frustrating. Mullen IS an offensive coach or at least that's what we were told when Byrne hired him. No excuse for Mullen in HIS 5th year to come out with a 5th year SR QB and a complete returning OL against a Big 12 defense and put up 3 freakin' points. Just an acceptable offensive performance today and we likely win.

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Exactly. People are forgetting those stupid ass "Spread the Fun" billboards. Our spread is a joke. Hud's offense is much more exciting and effective.

Jesus.... Now I know you are the present day Roy McLain..... Where was this information yesterday or during the summer???


I find it ridiculous that you state this information now...

And just to add, Mullen is the cause of our offensive problems, bu I just can't take this conspiracy bullshit anymore

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Originally Posted by T-Dogg

You act like an insider, and its pretty clear that you don't know any more than the rest of us, you just like conspiracy theories.

OM is under investigation, so the whole SEC is after them and they knew that they are going to get the death penalty.

Now, because our offense didn't do shit all game, there's an SEC conspiracy to get the almighty Mullen out of the SEC. Give me a break, man.

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you're a blithering idiot. I've been pissed about the scheduling of this game, for this reason, for months. You act like this is new because we underperformed tonight.

I've been called a sunshine pumper because I called a 2 star Chris Jones a stud, a negative nancy because I said "I don't believe" against Bama last year, and now a conspiracy theorist because I'm telling yall that this is likely Mullen's final season. I call it how I see it, and unfortunately there are some things I can't say on a message board because I've never been one to implicate other people.

Did the people who gave you this information also give you the info on the freshman being held out during the OM game? I mean if you throw enough shit against the wall something will eventually stick.

how the hell would anyone from State know who is being held out for certain? I know who has been implicated, but I don't have Freeze's phone tapped. Sorry.

If you knew one ounce of what's going on in our athletic department, this would make a lot more sense to you. Bracky's protected status, why we got screwed for the 2013 schedule, why the 2014 schedule lined up nicely, why Slive came after us for Cam, etc... I know it's hard to believe that an Athletic Department is a political organization, but it happens as asinine as it may sound that politics drives decisions in the SEC. Amazing, I know.

Hack, I like you and your posts but this really seems odd "I didn't know how bad it was until I was somehow wading through it."
You damn well know how you were wading through it. Sell that BS somewhere else. I appreciate what you have done and bring to the table but to act like lil red riding hood, come on.

Honestly, you sound like someone with an axe to grind and maybe rightfully so.

Hack, besides the Cam fiasco, what else has Mullen done to tick off Slive?

This is a much more intelligent fanbase than 20 years ago. We won't put up with as much shit as we once did. A lot of the blue hairs have died off and the mentality has changed within the fanbase.

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

If true, going back to the LT way of running things would get Strickland run out of town after a couple of years. The fan base will start calling for his head if the football program heads south for a long time, just like what happened to LT in the 2000's.

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I have 1,000 axes to grind, but this isn't one of them. I want Hud, eventually. I'm just pissed that the 2013 season is going to be a shit show for political purposes and to earn a few bucks. I've been pissed for months about this game. This isn't new.

Also, I don't want what I meant by "wading through it" to be misconstrued. Wasn't my intention to state that I was naive about everything. What I didn't realize is the politics that go on. I was "educated" by several "big boys" who we're pissed at Strick for firing Stans. Maybe they had an ax to grind? Maybe not. But I can tell you with certainty that the 2013 schedule, 2014 schedule, unwavering dedication to Bracky, and the contacts with Hud over the summer that I was told about months ago all came through.

We'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if CDM is out.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Doormats isn't a W/L term. It's whether or not we'll bow down to Birmingham and quit rocking the boat. Slice has wanted CDM out since the Cam issue. I've heard some not so pleasant words came from Slive to our Ath Dept to shut Megan up. Things haven't been the same since then.

Either way the bottom line is that this is a very political move and barring something unforeseen I see CDM being gone after this season.

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I would bet my ass that Cam told Mrs M, "The money was just to much.,"

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Originally Posted by Negative Waves

Hack, besides the Cam fiasco, what else has Mullen done to tick off Slive?

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threatened to break the rule about SEC institutions not telling on one another.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

how the hell would anyone from State know who is being held out for certain? I know who has been implicated, but I don't have Freeze's phone tapped. Sorry.

If you knew one ounce of what's going on in our athletic department, this would make a lot more sense to you. Bracky's protected status, why we got screwed for the 2013 schedule, why the 2014 schedule lined up nicely, why Slive came after us for Cam, etc... I know it's hard to believe that an Athletic Department is a political organization, but it happens as asinine as it may sound that politics drives decisions in the SEC. Amazing, I know.

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Back - I think you need to just concentrate on getting us on probation.

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Originally Posted by Bigohh

Back - I think you need to just concentrate on getting us on probation.

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Put your big boy pants on and come back when you can join the adult conversation.

Then why did you act like you knew? You got caught, and we all suffered for it. Quit with your bitching.

Mullen is not going anywhere if he has a winning season. Right now he's got a lot more problem with that than any political back room dealings. If we don't get our offensive issues straightened out we are a 5 win team at best.

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Originally Posted by T-Dogg

Then why did you act like you knew? You got caught, and we all suffered for it. Quit with your bitching.

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Show me the post where I said they would be suspended. I asked the question. I said I wouldn't be surprised. I never said they would definitely be suspended. Ever.

I put my family through hell so you can sleep better at night you ****ing prick.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

Show me the post where I said they would be suspended. I asked the question. I said I wouldn't be surprised. I never said they would definitely be suspended. Ever.

I put my family through hell so you can sleep better at night you ****ing prick.

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Good lord... Am I missing something? Getting a bit personal here huh...

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

We'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if CDM is out.

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So on one post you put CDM will leave or be fired and now it's a wait and see at the end of the year...


Hack, seriously just stop..., you don't know shit and sure as hell aren't connected,


You have blown any credibility you had with this conspiracy bullshit

Ouch. I give. You're too quick for me.

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Originally Posted by CrazyEyeKilla

So on one post you put CDM will leave or be fired and now it's a wait and see at the end of the year...


Hack, seriously just stop..., you don't know shit and sure as hell aren't connected,


You have blown any credibility you had with this conspiracy bullshit

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Isn't he officially suppose to be disconnected? Just sayin'.

What question did you ask? I'm sure you've always had my best interests at heart.

[QUOTE=Political Hack;44859]I have 1,000 axes to grind, but this isn't one of them. I want Hud, eventually. I'm just pissed that the 2013 season is going to be a shit show for political purposes and to earn a few bucks. I've been pissed for months about this game. This isn't new.

Also, I don't want what I meant by "wading through it" to be misconstrued. Wasn't my intention to state that I was naive about everything. What I didn't realize is the politics that go on. I was "educated" by several "big boys" who we're pissed at Strick for firing Stans. Maybe they had an ax to grind? Maybe not. But I can tell you with certainty that the 2013 schedule, 2014 schedule, unwavering dedication to Bracky, and the contacts with Hud over the summer that I was told about months ago all came through.

We'll have to wait until the end of the season to see if CDM is out.[/QUOTE

Sort of proves that we are our own worst enemy. Always have been and probably will continue. It amazes me how many of these so called "big boys" want everything their way.....**** winning, I want things done my way.

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Originally Posted by CrazyEyeKilla

So on one post you put CDM will leave or be fired and now it's a wait and see at the end of the year...


Hack, seriously just stop..., you don't know shit and sure as hell aren't connected,


You have blown any credibility you had with this conspiracy bullshit

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you know me. always looking out for n?mero uno and worried about my Internet cool points.

What you dumbasses don't realize is Mullen tried to get the Colorado job last year and was passed over. You might want to pick a fight with Hack but he is right on with most of what he posts. Nobody wants MSU to win more than me, but if you can't see we have a weak AD and who basically plays politics just like LT did and Mullen is as stubborn as Croom was and Hevesy has developed very few lineman either. Their arrogance and yankee "I am smarter than you are attitudes" are hurting us. I hope we turn it around but I have no faith in beating any good SEC team and the scheduling of this game for money was a disaster and most folks knew it.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

you know me. always looking out for n?mero uno and worried about my Internet cool points.

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Honestly the timing of this conspiracy shit makes it look that way.

That is just my opinion and I would love for others to disagree with me on this.

I am not arguing that our AD isn't in over his head... I think he is terrible.

However, I cannot buy this political conspiracy to get Mullen out. It's too much.

ETA: I think Mullen is the cause of our offensive woes as well and would not be disappointed if he left.

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Originally Posted by coastdoglover

What you dumbasses don't realize is Mullen tried to get the Colorado job last year and was passed over. You might want to pick a fight with Hack but he is right on with most of what he posts. Nobody wants MSU to win more than me, but if you can't see we have a weak AD and who basically plays politics just like LT did and Mullen is as stubborn as Croom was and Hevesy has developed very few lineman either. Their arrogance and yankee "I am smarter than you are attitudes" are hurting us. I hope we turn it around but I have no faith in beating any good SEC team and the scheduling of this game for money was a disaster and most folks knew it.

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SO you covered the same ground I did. Mullen likely won't be desired by any program he would want to leave for after this season and we can't afford to buy him out so I don't see any way he is not back next year.

the "conspiracy" has been there. I've been bitching about the scheduling of this game since before it was announced.

I hope it's wrong. I hope CDM is here for several more years. I think he could give us Frank Beamer type stability.

I think it's spineless and disposable. I think when Strick said "we'll play those types of teams in January"
he should've meant it. What do you think made him change his mind? Our awesome end to the season last year or maybe a little pressure from the SEC office?

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Originally Posted by coastdoglover

What you dumbasses don't realize is Mullen tried to get the Colorado job last year and was passed over. You might want to pick a fight with Hack but he is right on with most of what he posts. Nobody wants MSU to win more than me, but if you can't see we have a weak AD and who basically plays politics just like LT did and Mullen is as stubborn as Croom was and Hevesy has developed very few lineman either. Their arrogance and yankee "I am smarter than you are attitudes" are hurting us. I hope we turn it around but I have no faith in beating any good SEC team and the scheduling of this game for money was a disaster and most folks knew it.

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Well **** me, if he wants to go let him... Sorry, I have no doubt you and others have way more inside knowledge than I do, and I mean this very seriously, but for **** sakes, why the hell would we keep a "Yankee" (your words) coach around who doesn't even want to be here. Hell, they can pay me 150k a year and I can produce an offense that looks like that shit show we saw today. Everybody wins!

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Originally Posted by Rick Danko

Well **** me, if he wants to go let him... Sorry, I have no doubt you and others have way more inside knowledge than I do, and I mean this very seriously, but for **** sakes, why the hell would we keep a "Yankee" (your words) coach around who doesn't even want to be here. Hell, they can pay me 150k a year and I can produce an offense that looks like that shit show we saw today. Everybody wins!

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Now I agree with that. Mullen is a pretty decent coach but he certainly isn't irreplaceable. With all of the money invested in the program and facilities and the sellouts we are a lot more attractive as a football program than we even were when Mullen was hired. I would think there are some pretty good coaches out there that would like to make 2.5 mil/yr.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Now I agree with that. Mullen is a pretty decent coach but he certainly isn't irreplaceable. With all of the money invested in the program and facilities and the sellouts we are a lot more attractive as a football program than we even were when Mullen was hired. I would think there are some pretty good coaches out there that would like to make 2.5 mil/yr.

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his salary is more than the 2.6 reported. He has other financial obligations that are also covered through his contract, although I have no clue how much they cost.

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Originally Posted by Will James

When does Keenum become the issue? His leadership during the NCAA dealings and lack of interest in protecting our University is worse than anything.

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Yea ur right. Bring back foglesong. Stupid ****. Losing a fireball game is one thing, sayin shit as stupid as this is beyond stupid, period.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

CDM and Strick smile in public, but they don't hang out in private. People who have openly discussed their opinion that "Strick has no backbone" with CDM seem to win his favor, although he would never go as far as saying that or confirming it.

The other thing that irks me is the continual contact our guys have with Hud. I love HUD, and a huge supporter, and truly hope he's the next HFC at State, but it's hard to distinguish between "babysitting" to protect the next guy and a concerted effort to speed up the process.

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I don't understand the point, Mullen doesn't hang out w his ad? Yea so. He doesnt hang out with many people at all in starkvile. Just trying to see what this adds to your point. How many coaches hang out w their boss?....um, not many

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Originally Posted by T-Dogg

Then why did you act like you knew? You got caught, and we all suffered for it. Quit with your bitching.

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This post is stupid. He helped, got caught doing something that happens a TON. Stop being stupid and move on. Hack lobes the place. Period

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I don't understand the point, Mullen doesn't hang out w his ad? Yea so. He doesnt hang out with many people at all in starkvile. Just trying to see what this adds to your point. How many coaches hang out w their boss?....um, not many

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I think it was a metaphor, genius.

Two stupid posts, back to back

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Originally Posted by Will James

I think it was a metaphor, genius.

Two stupid posts, back to back

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It's hard to comprehend stupid when dealing w your stupid ****ing ass. Ole miss1-6. Stick to baseball. No better yet stick to something u know what the **** u r talking about. Which would be????? I have no clue.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

It's hard to comprehend stupid when dealing w your stupid ****ing ass. Ole miss1-6. Stick to baseball. No better yet stick to something u know what the **** u r talking about. Which would be????? I have no clue.

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Hit the bottle a little too hard today?