Keenum letting his disgust be known.

Keenum is true maroon from the start.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think that's very possible. It could be the opposite in that the current athletic staff may not want Cohen. Although the rumor is they want him so that may not be the case.

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I'm sure it's not 100% one way or another so it may be the minority trying to force the issue.

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Originally Posted by basedog

So are you on Keenum's side if he chooses Cohen?

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I will be.

I have been a huge fan of Dr. Keenum for a long time.

Doc, if you're reading this...Hell yeah! Way to give 'em hell! Keenum is True Maroon!

Mr. Cohen is not tall enough for the AD job...

I wouldn't expect Cohen to be announced until he has his replacement committed.

Even if Cohen has already agreed to take the job, I completely get Keenum's frustration. For over a year he has watched the state's biggest newspaper act like Ole Miss is not in the middle of one of the biggest recruiting scandals this century. The only thing he has seen them report on Ole Miss was the Tunsil/Miller fight. Immediately after it broke they fired the reporter and wrote a story on how Tunsil was just protecting momma. Fast forward to today, and we are in the middle of hiring a new leader for our athletic department and the clarion ledger confirms Cohen to AD without getting the OK from our athletic department.

It's truly 17ed up, and I can't wait for Cohen to suspend their credintials on his first day as AD. I can tell you one thing, when we are ready to make an announcement ourselves, we will set up a press conference on campus, and then invite every media outlet in our area except for the CL.

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

I wouldn't expect Cohen to be announced until he has his replacement committed.

Even if Cohen has already agreed to take the job, I completely get Keenum's frustration. For over a year he has watched the state's biggest newspaper act like Ole Miss is not in the middle of one of the biggest recruiting scandals this century. The only thing he has seen them report on Ole Miss was the Tunsil/Miller fight. Immediately after it broke they fired the reporter and wrote a story on how Tunsil was just protecting momma. Fast forward to today, and we are in the middle of hiring a new leader for our athletic department and the clarion ledger confirms Cohen to AD without getting the OK from our athletic department.

It's truly 17ed up, and I can't wait for Cohen to suspend their credintials on his first day as AD. I can tell you one thing, when we are ready to make an announcement ourselves, we will set up a press conference on campus, and then invite every media outlet in our area except for the CL.

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If that is Cohens first act (after hiring a new baseball coach..who better be announced the NEXT DAY after him) in kicking the CL out of a press conference that will make a LOT of MSU fans happy and show some strength. I don't give a damn about that rule of don't fight with a newspaper anymore.. they have continued to go too far and it's time to censor them the best we can by not giving them access to anything.

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

I wouldn't expect Cohen to be announced until he has his replacement committed.

Even if Cohen has already agreed to take the job, I completely get Keenum's frustration. For over a year he has watched the state's biggest newspaper act like Ole Miss is not in the middle of one of the biggest recruiting scandals this century. The only thing he has seen them report on Ole Miss was the Tunsil/Miller fight. Immediately after it broke they fired the reporter and wrote a story on how Tunsil was just protecting momma. Fast forward to today, and we are in the middle of hiring a new leader for our athletic department and the clarion ledger confirms Cohen to AD without getting the OK from our athletic department.

It's truly 17ed up, and I can't wait for Cohen to suspend their credintials on his first day as AD. I can tell you one thing, when we are ready to make an announcement ourselves, we will set up a press conference on campus, and then invite every media outlet in our area except for the CL.

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We better hope Cohen works out because we're going to have an inexperienced AD, Ole Miss probably coming after us after they have been put on probation, we'll have to hire a new baseball coach, and likely a new football coach in the next two years. HUGE risk for us.

I'd much rather have someone with experience making those decisions because this is a VERY critical time for us. We screw it up and it could set us back several years in multiple sports.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I'm sure it's not 100% one way or another so it may be the minority trying to force the issue.

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It's hard to tell right now and we probably won't know until it's over. If then.

I think the question here is who is the source that confirmed Cohen to Bonner. It must be someone pretty high up (Cohen himself?) for the CL to adamantly stand behind the story.

If Keenum didn't want the story out, he should be mad at whoever confirmed it to Bonner, not Bonner himself.


Unless it wasn't confirmed by anyone, or was "confirmed" by someone who obviously doesn't really know. In that case Bonner really screwed up.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Exactly.. Especially without confirmation

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Correct. Even if Cohen becomes AD he was not selected today and has not even been interviewed and the story was not verified with our administration.

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I'm sure he hasn't been interviewed officially, and I'm sure he never will. Is there really a need to interview him? That's like interviewing your fianc? to become your wife. Cohen and the athletic department already know each other very well, at this point it's just a matter of whether both sides agree, and I think they already have, but we will know for sure soon.

The luxury with hiring someone within the athletic department is that it allows us to have replacement coaches and public statements lined up before making the announcement. Cohen can find the replacement he wants, talk to all his recruits and players and let them know or even meet their new coach before they see on Twitter that Cohen is no longer the baseball coach. This has all happened quickly and there is no way we had everything ready to go right now, and then the CL stole our ability to break the story when and how we wanted to. What was Keenum gonna say???

"Yep you got us, surpriseeeeeee Cohen is the New AD! We will have a press conference ready as soon as the CL is available!!!! Thanks for reporting a rumor that everyone has already heard! We just hadn't announced it yet because we were waiting on the CL to break it, thanks Clarion Ledger!!! From the bottom of my maroon heart as well as every other Bulldog's, we could not have done it without y'all!!! #hailstate #IntenseBastardForAD #SuckMyDak"

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

I'm sure he hasn't been interviewed officially, and I'm sure he never will. Is there really a need to interview him? That's like interviewing your fianc? to become your wife. Cohen and the athletic department already know each other very well, at this point it's just a matter of whether both sides agree, and I think they already have, but we will know for sure soon.

The luxury with hiring someone within the athletic department is that it allows us to have replacement coaches and public statements lined up before making the announcement. Cohen can find the replacement he wants, talk to all his recruits and players and let them know or even meet their new coach before they see on Twitter that Cohen is no longer the baseball coach. This has all happened quickly and there is no way we had everything ready to go right now, and then the CL stole our ability to break the story when and how we wanted to. What was Keenum gonna say???

"Yep you got us, surpriseeeeeee Cohen is the New AD! We will have a press conference ready as soon as the CL is available!!!! Thanks for reporting a rumor that everyone has already heard! We just hadn't announced it yet because we were waiting on the CL to break it, thanks Clarion Ledger!!! From the bottom of my maroon heart as well as every other Bulldog's, we could not have done it without y'all!!! #hailstate #IntenseBastardForAD #SuckMyDak"

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There really isn't a need to have interviews because this whole thing is a sham. Absolutely bush league on our part.

Th CL sure didn't go out on a limb to investigate TSUN concerning their pending NCAA sanctions.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We better hope Cohen works out because we're going to have an inexperienced AD, Ole Miss probably coming after us after they have been put on probation, we'll have to hire a new baseball coach, and likely a new football coach in the next two years. HUGE risk for us.

I'd much rather have someone with experience making those decisions because this is a VERY critical time for us. We screw it up and it could set us back several years in multiple sports.

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Cohen won't be announced unless he has the replacement he wants. So you don't have to worry about hiring a new baseball coach, and Cohen has been involved in making many of the coaching hires since he has been here, including Mullen. So it's not like it's a new thing to him. Also 1/7 of the head Baseball coaches in the SEC are former Cohen assistants, you can add Gary Henderson and Lane Burroughs to that list too. So not only is he good at selecting talented coaches, but also leaders. We need some leadership around here right now.

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Originally Posted by DeviousDawg

Cohen won't be announced unless he has the replacement he wants. So you don't have to worry about hiring a new baseball coach, and Cohen has been involved in making many of the coaching hires since he has been here, including Mullen. So it's not like it's a new thing to him. Also 1/7 of the head Baseball coaches in the SEC are former Cohen assistants, you can add Gary Henderson and Lane Burroughs to that list too. So not only is he good at selecting talented coaches, but also leaders. We need some leadership around here right now.

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We need someone that isn't tied to Starkville.

And you are being short sighted with the baseball coach hire. What about Coggin and Henderson? We may have to get new assistant or we're going to hire a coach that is going to be coming in with assistants he didn't hire and is going to have to work with. The rumor is we're going to hire an assistant coach with for baseball with no head coaching experience although I will admit he is a good hitting coach. But my point is that's a major hire for us among two or three major hires that our athletic department is staring down the barrel at. How many football coaches are former Cohen assistants? How can Cohen lead when he has no experience in marketing and all of the other myriad of duties an AD has to do? You know what will happen there- the "people that know what they are doing" will take care of it right? How is he going to handle Ole Miss turning us in to the NCAA in retaliation in a couple of years?

This is VERY critical time for us and we need someone with experience. NOT the good ol boy network. But **** it. We never learn.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The rumor is we're going to hire an assistant coach with for baseball with no head coaching experience although I will admit he is a good hitting coach.

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So that rumor is already out there? That was quick.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

There really isn't a need to have interviews because this whole thing is a sham. Absolutely bush league on our part.

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Don't always agree with you but usually can see your point of view...but I think you are way over the top here. Not sure if Cohen will be great or not, but I think him being very good is more likely. And Keenum may have known already the traits he wanted in an AD and Cohen possesses those traits.

Not sure why it's so outlandish to think that the best AD for us is a guy that is MSU thru and thru.

So has the CL or Bonner issued a response?

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Don't always agree with you but usually can see your point of view...but I think you are way over the top here. Not sure if Cohen will be great or not, but I think him being very good is more likely. And Keenum may have known already the traits he wanted in an AD and Cohen possesses those traits.

Not sure why it's so outlandish to think that the best AD for us is a guy that is MSU thru and thru.

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#agenda2.0

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

So has the CL or Bonner issued a response?

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Bonner on Head to Head doubled down and said as much. He said that he has talked to all of his sources again after MSU released their statement. He stands behind his reports. And has said that any other interviews from here on out are simply a formality.

Edit: Here's the full interview with Bonner on H2H: http://www.supertalk.fm/mike-bonner-...irector-story/

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

Don't always agree with you but usually can see your point of view...but I think you are way over the top here. Not sure if Cohen will be great or not, but I think him being very good is more likely. And Keenum may have known already the traits he wanted in an AD and Cohen possesses those traits.

Not sure why it's so outlandish to think that the best AD for us is a guy that is MSU thru and thru.

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Interseting to me that the best choice for MSU is always a MSU guy.

I think you can almost bet on one thing, whether we eventually hire Cohen or not this was let out by the CL for a reason and that reason was not intended to sell papers or help MSU. The CL would never set foot on campus with credentials as long as I was around if I was Keenum. Not until everyone from the editor to Bonner has been replaced.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think you can almost bet on one thing, whether we eventually hire Cohen or not this was let out by the CL for a reason and that reason was not intended to sell papers or help MSU. The CL would never set foot on campus with credentials as long as I was around if I was Keenum. Not until everyone from the editor to Bonner has been replaced.

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We finally agree on something!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think you can almost bet on one thing, whether we eventually hire Cohen or not this was let out by the CL for a reason and that reason was not intended to sell papers or help MSU. The CL would never set foot on campus with credentials as long as I was around if I was Keenum. Not until everyone from the editor to Bonner has been replaced.

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I concur.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think you can almost bet on one thing, whether we eventually hire Cohen or not this was let out by the CL for a reason and that reason was not intended to sell papers or help MSU. The CL would never set foot on campus with credentials as long as I was around if I was Keenum. Not until everyone from the editor to Bonner has been replaced.

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You nailed it! There are several agendas working here and the cl is trying to screw us! So screw them!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think you can almost bet on one thing, whether we eventually hire Cohen or not this was let out by the CL for a reason and that reason was not intended to sell papers or help MSU. The CL would never set foot on campus with credentials as long as I was around if I was Keenum. Not until everyone from the editor to Bonner has been replaced.

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Agree 100%. The CL's need to scoop everybody else and "break" a story before any other newspaper was definitely not their MO. Underlying intentions were to arguably cause other reputable candidates to think "wtf" and "why do I want to get involved with an outfit like this if I'm being toyed with?" Regardless, Bonner's actions were highly unethical and lacked journalistic integrity, which has unfortunately has become the norm for media outlets across the nation.

#dicksoutforKeenum

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

Agree 100%. The CL's need to scoop everybody else and "break" a story before any other newspaper was definitely not their MO. Underlying intentions were to arguably cause other reputable candidates to think "wtf" and "why do I want to get involved with an outfit like this if I'm being toyed with?" Regardless, Bonner's actions were highly unethical and lacked journalistic integrity, which has unfortunately has become the norm for media outlets across the nation.

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I think that very well might be why. Now who wanted it done is another question. There are more than just one or two possibilities there.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think that very well might be why. Now who wanted it done is another question. There are more than just one or two possibilities there.

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This is the real question.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I think that very well might be why. Now who wanted it done is another question. There are more than just one or two possibilities there.

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That what's making this extremely interesting is there are multiple possibilities and probably a combination of more than one.

Professional journalists go by the rule of 2 confirmations before going to print or air, Bonner did neither from what I have seen. It would be too easy to call for a comment or confirmation. What Bonner did, chasing a unconfirmed source or rumor is called Yellow Journalism. The Clarion Ledger is backing the story, because they have no choice, they put it out there. Sam Hall has no choice but to take action against the reporter and the editor who allowed a false story to be printed.

Keenum should threaten the Cl with pulling credentials. It worked for Mississippi, they get softball treatment and it cost Riley Blevins his job.

This comment will be copied and pasted to an e-mail to Sam Hall, Editor and Chief of the Clarion Ledger.

But when cohen actually becomes AD and Bonner actually reported it right, what does that mean?

And I thought the CL had to receive approval from OM people before they published an article on us? Oh!! wait...His sources told him?. I'm glad I dropped that piece of a crap newsrag several years ago.

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Originally Posted by civildawg

But when cohen actually becomes AD and Bonner actually reported it right, what does that mean?

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Probably that MSU never intended to do a real national search or someone is trying to force Cohen to be the AD.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Probably that MSU never intended to do a real national search or someone is trying to force Cohen to be the AD.

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C'mon man!

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Probably that MSU never intended to do a real national search or someone is trying to force Cohen to be the AD.

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If Dr. Keenum said they are doing a nationwide seach then that is what is happening.

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Originally Posted by civildawg

But when cohen actually becomes AD and Bonner actually reported it right, what does that mean?

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Like it's been already stated, even if Cohen is named AD it was false reporting. The university is still conducting a search. It doesn't matter if it is a legit search or if they are just going through the motions. They had not named him AD yet and CL reported falsely.

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Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro

Bonner is probably thinking he will have the last laugh. Keenum didn't deny Cohen is the guy.

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Exactly. I agree we should still tell the CL to piss off but if we do indeed hire Cohen, we are going to look dumb AF

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Exactly. I agree we should still tell the CL to piss off but if we do indeed hire Cohen, we are going to look dumb AF

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nope read prior post.

Professional journalists go by the rule of 2 confirmations before going to print or air, Bonner did neither from what I have seen. It would be too easy to call for a comment or confirmation. What Bonner did, chasing a unconfirmed source or rumor is called Yellow Journalism. The Clarion Ledger is backing the story, because they have no choice, they put it out there. Sam Hall has no choice but to take action against the reporter and the editor who allowed a false story to be printed.

Keenum should threaten the Cl with pulling credentials. It worked for Mississippi, they get softball treatment and it cost Riley Blevins his job.

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Exactly. I agree we should still tell the CL to piss off but if we do indeed hire Cohen, we are going to look dumb AF

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I don't see how we are going to look dumb if we hire Cohen. Nobody said we aren't going to hire Cohen it was just said that the process isn't over. I'm sure some Bear fans and some media will claim we look dumb but the fact is that what Bonner reported is incorrect.