If Cohen is named AD, who replaces him

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10-12-2016, 05:50 PM
preachermatt83

Sure Godwin would be on the list too
10-12-2016, 06:01 PM
ScoobaDawg

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Some new choices just introduced per some guy named Cody Allsup....I mean he's the pitching coach at Starkville Academy. He's gotta be in the know.

Cody Allsup ‏@codyallsup23 3h3 hours ago
My sources are telling me, that if John Cohen becomes Athletic Director, Mississippi State has several big time candidates in mind.

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10-12-2016, 06:40 PM
msbulldog

Damn Scooba, you have a lotta free time on your hands! But it's funny.
10-12-2016, 06:47 PM
GTHOM

If you could chose Corbin or Cohen right now who would yall pick
10-12-2016, 07:14 PM
TNDawg35

BRIGMA!!!
10-12-2016, 07:28 PM
Tbonewannabe

If Cohen doesn't hire Kenny Powers he needs to be fired. We could get Stevie to run the camps.
10-12-2016, 07:59 PM
TNDawg35

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

If Cohen doesn't hire Kenny Powers he needs to be fired. We could get Stevie to run the camps.

Stevie already coaches our offensive line...
10-12-2016, 08:48 PM
weblow

Corbin allows the ****ing Whistler. He is automatically disqualified based on that alone.
10-12-2016, 08:54 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

If you could chose Corbin or Cohen right now who would yall pick

This is a good question.

My thought is I think Cohen would be better for MSU specifically because he is an alumni and understands MSU baseball and the tradition that is here. That said, I think the biggest thing that Corbin has over Cohen is he has won a National Championship. To my knowledge we have never had a coach that has won a NC at another school as our head coach. And that could be beneficial the next time we go to Omaha. No question about that.

About Corbin and I will say this about him- if you don't like small ball he may not be who would want as your coach. Granted Vandy's stadium has that slick astro turf and he has always built his teams mostly around speed and defense even moreso than Cohen. In my opinion, MSU is best as a blue collar hard working team so the small ball does translate there some to a degree because you have to hustle to play small ball well. I do like the fact that Cohen's teams have more power than Corbin's do in general or at least a philosophy to go along with the small ball. The other thing is Vandy is really known for their pitching and those are normally the guys that they have that people wonder how on Earth they got them through the MLB draft. And if he could get us some of those pitchers that would be a very good thing. I would be interested to know and see if he would change his offensive philosophy to match our stadium and what Cohen does with power but maybe with more stolen bases? That would be my biggest question about him. If it is Corbin, I would at least like to keep Will Coggin as the hitting coach. Corbin just lost his hitting coach to Tulane as he took their head coaching job.

I really don't think we could go wrong with either Cohen or Corbin to be totally honest with you. In fact, Corbin was my second choice to be the head coach at MSU when we were looking for Polk's replacement at the time.
10-12-2016, 08:55 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by weblow

Corbin allows the ****ing Whistler. He is automatically disqualified based on that alone.

As long as that douche stays in Nashville I'm good. I would write that into the contract.

That guy has been kicked out at least a couple of times that I am aware of from Vandy baseball games and I think he got into a fight with one of our fans last year.
10-12-2016, 09:19 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This is a good question.

My thought is I think Cohen would be better for MSU specifically because he is an alumni and understands MSU baseball and the tradition that is here. That said, I think the biggest thing that Corbin has over Cohen is he has won a National Championship. To my knowledge we have never had a coach that has won a NC at another school as our head coach. And that could be beneficial the next time we go to Omaha. No question about that.

About Corbin and I will say this about him- if you don't like small ball he may not be who would want as your coach. Granted Vandy's stadium has that slick astro turf and he has always built his teams mostly around speed and defense even moreso than Cohen. In my opinion, MSU is best as a blue collar hard working team so the small ball does translate there some to a degree because you have to hustle to play small ball well. I do like the fact that Cohen's teams have more power than Corbin's do in general or at least a philosophy to go along with the small ball. The other thing is Vandy is really known for their pitching and those are normally the guys that they have that people wonder how on Earth they got them through the MLB draft. And if he could get us some of those pitchers that would be a very good thing. I would be interested to know and see if he would change his offensive philosophy to match our stadium and what Cohen does with power but maybe with more stolen bases? That would be my biggest question about him. If it is Corbin, I would at least like to keep Will Coggin as the hitting coach. Corbin just lost his hitting coach to Tulane as he took their head coaching job.

I really don't think we could go wrong with either Cohen or Corbin to be totally honest with you. In fact, Corbin was my second choice to be the head coach at MSU when we were looking for Polk's replacement at the time.

I like baseball esp State baseball but I wont even pretend to know it as well as you obviously or some others. I'm a football guy. That said, who do you think we have a realistic shot at getting to replace Cohen if we do make him AD?
10-12-2016, 09:49 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

I like baseball esp State baseball but I wont even pretend to know it as well as you obviously or some others. I'm a football guy. That said, who do you think we have a realistic shot at getting to replace Cohen if we do make him AD?

It's hard to say because this isn't the prime time to go looking for a baseball coach. I do think that we could get Butch, Mingione, Lane, etc. probably pretty easily if it got down to it. I'm not sure that us getting Corbin or a Schlossnagle is very realistic just being honest. I would say promoting Henderson as an interim is a possibility although people say that won't happen and I agree it probably wouldn't.

The name I keep hearing is Andy Canizarro who is the hitting coach for LSU would be Cohen's choice. I will say that he is a very good hitting coach and he used to play at Tulane when they went to Omaha. I think the thing that we have to be cognizant of is how that would affect the rest of the staff because he would just be kind of coming in plus he has no head coaching experience that I am aware of.

If Cohen were asking me who I would recommend I would probably go after Greg Goff at Alabama. I think Goff would be the best fit for us because of his ties to Mississippi and the fact that he turned around Louisiana Tech very quickly. He also has ties to Christian Ostrander who I think is an outstanding pitching coach.
10-12-2016, 10:03 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's hard to say because this isn't the prime time to go looking for a baseball coach. I do think that we could get Butch, Mingione, Lane, etc. probably pretty easily if it got down to it. I'm not sure that us getting Corbin or a Schlossnagle is very realistic just being honest. I would say promoting Henderson as an interim is a possibility although people say that won't happen and I agree it probably wouldn't.

The name I keep hearing is Andy Canizarro who is the hitting coach for LSU would be Cohen's choice. I will say that he is a very good hitting coach and he used to play at Tulane when they went to Omaha. I think the thing that we have to be cognizant of is how that would affect the rest of the staff because he would just be kind of coming in plus he has no head coaching experience that I am aware of.

If Cohen were asking me who I would recommend I would probably go after Greg Goff at Alabama. I think Goff would be the best fit for us because of his ties to Mississippi and the fact that he turned around Louisiana Tech very quickly. He also has ties to Christian Ostrander who I think is an outstanding pitching coach.

Not trying to turn this into a baseball thread but I just think we need somebody to get us over the hump and get it done. I think a Corbin, Cohen, Gilmore, or a Tim Tadlock could get it done here
10-12-2016, 10:18 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Not trying to turn this into a baseball thread but I just think we need somebody to get us over the hump and get it done. I think a Corbin, Cohen, Gilmore, or a Tim Tadlock could get it done here

I agree. I think that's what makes someone like Corbin appealing to me and whenever or whomever we hire as our next head baseball coach I'd like for it to be someone that has won before in Omaha if possible. Because like I said we have never really had that before and that may be why we haven't done it yet. Then again of course the guys that win always have their first time to win it as well.
10-13-2016, 01:54 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Everywhere has advantages and disadvantages. If you go play at Vandy you get to play in front of hundreds of fans who don't care about baseball other than Buster Olney and the guy that whistle's all game long. We can say that you get to play in front of thousands of passionate fans every game and you are treated like a football player on campus.

The advantage of being able to offer pretty much limitless scholarships to one of the world's premier academic institutions, with truly powerful alums on your side after graduation trumps the other advantages.

No matter how many advantages we have with regard to fan base, facilities, etc....we are absolutely limited in the number of scholarships we can offer...period. They are not.
10-13-2016, 03:11 PM
CadaverDawg

Sources are saying.....

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10-13-2016, 03:41 PM
AusTexDawg

Agree with Blacklisted's earlier post about how the scholarship advantage at Vandy would probably trump most other jobs for Corbin (not to mention that he owns the only national championship in men's sports that Vandy has).

For those who've mentioned Tadlock and Schlossnagle, if they didn't take leave for Texas, which shares recruiting territory with their current schools but offers more resources, truly elite baseball tradition and (at least in theory) a better contract, why would they go to MSU instead? I'm not trying to be sarcastic - I would like to know what about MSU would be more appealing for them than, particularly since TCU probably has the same scholarship advantages that Vandy has and that Tadlock is a Tech alum.

I'm hoping that this is idle chatter and that we get to keep what seems like the best coach for MSU at this time in the dugout.
10-13-2016, 04:29 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by AusTexDawg

Agree with Blacklisted's earlier post about how the scholarship advantage at Vandy would probably trump most other jobs for Corbin (not to mention that he owns the only national championship in men's sports that Vandy has).

For those who've mentioned Tadlock and Schlossnagle, if they didn't take leave for Texas, which shares recruiting territory with their current schools but offers more resources, truly elite baseball tradition and (at least in theory) a better contract, why would they go to MSU instead? I'm not trying to be sarcastic - I would like to know what about MSU would be more appealing for them than, particularly since TCU probably has the same scholarship advantages that Vandy has and that Tadlock is a Tech alum.

I'm hoping that this is idle chatter and that we get to keep what seems like the best coach for MSU at this time in the dugout.

They both had non-compete agreements built into their contract that made it impossible for them to go to Texas. For Tadlock especially, why would you leave your alma mater to go to a school that directly competes with your alma mater year in and year out.

All the names you guys mentioned would be great baseball hires. I am intrigued by the Tim Corbin mention as I think he would do an outstanding job here. So would GG as GTHOM mentioned as well as Dan McDonnell from Louisville. For this year, I wouldn't mind going the interim coach route with Henderson for the time being and then hire a homerun hire this offseason such as a Corbin, Tadlock, JS, Goff, or GG in case those coaches offered interest but didn't want to leave their programs in a lurch this season.
10-13-2016, 04:30 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Fredi Gonzalez and roger McDowell

You are wrong for even mentioning Fredi in relation to anything to do with MSU baseball. Don't you put that juju on us.
10-13-2016, 04:37 PM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Dont mention the guy from Coastal or MarketingBully will tell you to shut up

That had to do with you complaining how bad a hire you thought Cohen being Athletic Director would be. I actually think your mentioning of Gilmore as a replacement for Cohen would be an excellent baseball hire.
10-13-2016, 07:38 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

That had to do with you complaining how bad a hire you thought Cohen being Athletic Director would be. I actually think your mentioning of Gilmore as a replacement for Cohen would be an excellent baseball hire.

I said it would be a bad hire if we didnt get a badass coach to replace him in baseball. Cmon bro
10-13-2016, 08:47 PM
BossDawg

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

If Butch is the best we can do then we are not a very good baseball program.

I swear. Good Lord that would be an unimpressive hire at the very least. We can do much, much better than that.

It wouldn't surprise me though.
10-13-2016, 08:55 PM
InTheIttaBenaHotSun

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Originally Posted by AusTexDawg

Agree with Blacklisted's earlier post about how the scholarship advantage at Vandy would probably trump most other jobs for Corbin (not to mention that he owns the only national championship in men's sports that Vandy has).

For those who've mentioned Tadlock and Schlossnagle, if they didn't take leave for Texas, which shares recruiting territory with their current schools but offers more resources, truly elite baseball tradition and (at least in theory) a better contract, why would they go to MSU instead? I'm not trying to be sarcastic - I would like to know what about MSU would be more appealing for them than, particularly since TCU probably has the same scholarship advantages that Vandy has and that Tadlock is a Tech alum.

I'm hoping that this is idle chatter and that we get to keep what seems like the best coach for MSU at this time in the dugout.

I agree with you on Schlossnagle and the scholarships - hard to go from almost unlimited to very limited. As for Tadlock....I've been to Lubbock, TX and I know Starkville gets hammered a lot by opposing fans and the media but DAMN, it's 100x nicer than Lubbock. That's just a depressing place. Good people out there but just a depressing and WINDY place. On top of that, the baseball facilities are not much better than a top 6A high school's. The opportunity to coach at one of the best baseball schools in the best baseball conference that will soon have the best baseball facility in the country should be enough to lure Tadlock away from Lubbock. Alum or not.
10-13-2016, 08:56 PM
BossDawg

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Originally Posted by MafiaDawg

Y'all have got to be kidding me about butch. Please no. When you don't have to hire a non proven coach why would you?

It's the typical "aww shux, golly jeepers we need to hire/promote a good ol' "family" coach and give him the fair shot he deserves!" attitude that still lurks deep within the minds of many State fans.
10-13-2016, 09:23 PM
InTheIttaBenaHotSun

I'm all for Butch coming back but only after he's had A LOT of success down at Auburn - over more than a couple of years.
10-14-2016, 06:36 AM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

As long as that douche stays in Nashville I'm good. I would write that into the contract.

That guy has been kicked out at least a couple of times that I am aware of from Vandy baseball games and I think he got into a fight with one of our fans last year.

He did a woman that smacked him, he tried to press charges against her. 3 or 4 Dawgs with bells right behind him will shut him up.
10-14-2016, 06:45 AM
msbulldog

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Originally Posted by InTheIttaBenaHotSun

I agree with you on Schlossnagle and the scholarships - hard to go from almost unlimited to very limited. As for Tadlock....I've been to Lubbock, TX and I know Starkville gets hammered a lot by opposing fans and the media but DAMN, it's 100x nicer than Lubbock. That's just a depressing place. Good people out there but just a depressing and WINDY place. On top of that, the baseball facilities are not much better than a top 6A high school's. The opportunity to coach at one of the best baseball schools in the best baseball conference that will soon have the best baseball facility in the country should be enough to lure Tadlock away from Lubbock. Alum or not.

I did a 1 day consulting gig in Lubbock once, your right I wouldn't want to live there.
10-14-2016, 12:13 PM
Backspin

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

It's the typical "aww shux, golly jeepers we need to hire/promote a good ol' "family" coach and give him the fair shot he deserves!" attitude that still lurks deep within the minds of many State fans.

No "aww shux, golly jeepers" here. I know baseball and I know good coaches. Butch Thompson is a helluva coach and a great recruiter. Who do you think is responsible for the 2013 crop of talent that led us to the CWS and most of which are playing in the MLB now? Butch was the head recruiter at that time and I know for a fact he had to personally lay eyes on every recruit before they were offered. Mingione made the initial contact in some cases but Butch had to see the recruit and approve of the recruit before they were brought in to meet Cohen. In some cases Cohen would go out and watch a recruit play but only after Butch had seen the kid play. That's how much confidence Cohen had in Butch's eye for talent.
10-14-2016, 12:19 PM
Backspin

I'm for finding the best coach period if it's outside the borders of Mississippi that's great too. I have total confidence in Cohen, if he becomes AD, to find the right guy. I'm sure he already knows who the right guy is and whether or not that guy is interested. Personally, I know Cliff Godwin is one of the very best out there. Great motivator, teacher of the game, person, and his resume' as a hitting coach speaks for itself. I'm just not sure Cohen would go there.

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