Sunday Morning QB- Bitchslapped Edition

Actually- the OK was given to fire Croom after the 3rd or 4th game of the season. It was left up to Byrne and he didn't tip his hat until the Egg Bowl beat down

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

10. The owners of Elitedawgs.com have unanimously decided that we will no longer support Coach Dan Mullen as the leader of our football program. His perpetual job hunting every December has not allowed the program to capitalize on the amazing successes we've seen in recent years. Due to the lack of passion on the field and in recruiting, desire, dedication, and the obvious lack of buy-in from his own players, we feel strongly that changes need to be made at the end of the season.

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This^^^

Worse in year 8 than year 1.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

If your going after him why not just go get the pirate.

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Leech ain't coming here. If Klingsbury can't win against Big 12 Defenses, he won't fair very well against SEC Defenses. I do like Mike Gundy if it is true he is sideways with Boone and Co at OSU.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

I'd LOVE to have Coach O given the situation and what we think is coming with Ole Miss.

It's time to attempt and load up on talent.

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This all damn day.

Coach O is light years better as a HC now. Can you imagine the looks on the faces of om folks when O takes the top talent in the state and whips their asses in every EB.

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Originally Posted by msstatelp1

How good can any coach be without elite talent? Show me any coach that has won continuously with below average talent.

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Ken Niumatalolo

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

1. Just not a whole lot to say about Saturday. 2 weeks off to get ready. Playing at home. Then its 35-0 at halftime. They just lined up and whipped our ass. They threw enough to hit some big plays- but they didnt do much because they simply didnt have to. Just whipped our ass. Auburn gave not one **** when they came out in the 2nd half- all they wanted to do was burn clock and get back home. They had proved their point.

2. Yep- I'm gonna say "I told you so". You knew I would. We struggled to beat UMass. We lost to South Alabama. There was no way in hell we were going to play with Auburn- who has one of the SEC's best OL's and DL's. Unless you have bigtime playmakers like an OM- you cant overcome a team thats much better than you upfront. That is where football is won and lost. When I saw we couldnt run at all on LSU- I knew we were going to see pretty much the same thing vs Auburn. Thats football. Miss State cant afford to have a guy that is not a relentless recruiter or someone that doesnt fix problems with recruiting on his staff. T-Buck was employed for 3 weeks before signing day- and he pulled in our highest rated OL recruit. Its that kind of crap that has seen us get to this point.
Auburn is a team that is young at RB, WR, and LB- but they have talent. They are getting better every week. You can see it. State is a team that is not getting better every week. You can see that too.

3. We have a severe lack of overall talent. If you arent convinced already- wait until we struggle vs BYU and Kentucky. Our current recruiting strategy this year to load up on jucos isnt going to help that. Reeks of desperation. And no matter how many times Mullen says it- we arent young. 30 of our 44 on the depth chart are 3rd year college players or better. 2/3 of them are in their 3rd year of college or better.

4. Guess what guys? Dan Mullen has a new agent. You may have heard of him- Jimmy Sexton. He's already working it with 2-3 schools already.

5. My guy told me yesterday that we absolutely will not fire Dan Mullen after this season. "But if he leaves, nobody is going to be sad". Also said of course Mullen wouldnt get his contract extended after the season either. Would put him down to 2 years. "But I'll be very surprised if he is here. I predict Sexton finds him another gig, Mullen takes the paycut citing it's time for a new challenge or some BS like that". This guy was around decision makers all day yesterday. Very telling of where we are right now with our football program.

6. I simply dont understand how Holloway keeps playing. How in the hell could you recruit that terribly at RB not to have someone you trust more than him to help your offense? It's become a big joke now. Holloway should be a D-II All-American at Delta State or somewhere.

7. If Brian Johnson did indeed call plays in the 2nd half- dont read much into it. The game was decided and Mullen was just letting him get some experience. You can bet he and Hev already call a play or two here and there during games already. "Hey coach- the left DE keeps squeezing- run the zone read here". Happens all over at every school.

8. We didnt play Damien at all. That tells me we have decided to get Fitz as much experience as possible moving forward to next year. Tiano aint happening either. Coming out of the bye week down 35-0 would have been the perfect time to play Tiano. We didnt. Tells you all you need to know. We cant play another RB other than Holloway down 35-0, we shirley wont play another QB.

9. Bama is going to win the NC again unless LSU can stop them. Their offense is ridiculous. LSU getting an off week is huge for them moving forward making their changes on offense. A&M is 6-0 for the 1st time in 20 years. Auburn gets better every week and they have lots of young, talented guys. UPig actually scored 30 on Bama- but was outclassed. Gonna be hard to slow them down with our D. OM has a great offense. BYU won on the road at Michigan State last night. Kentucky has 3 wins now- that will be a battle. Not many wins for us left out there. The streak is about to be over. With that said.....

10. The owners of Elitedawgs.com have unanimously decided that we will no longer support Coach Dan Mullen as the leader of our football program. His perpetual job hunting every December has not allowed the program to capitalize on the amazing successes we've seen in recent years. Due to the lack of passion on the field and in recruiting, desire, dedication, and the obvious lack of buy-in from his own players, we feel strongly that changes need to be made at the end of the season.

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I agree with all this except one part. The decision makers decided at the beginning of the year this was cdms last year regardless of record. That is why the urgency for Mullen to get a new agent and why his game plans are sh$t. He is sticking it to us on his swan song. Because for the need for the cigar boys stepping in once again it made the UF/Stricklin marriage even more likely. It's a real good chance we have a person that wants this job lined up.

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Originally Posted by ILOATHEBears

I agree with all this except one part. The decision makers decided at the beginning of the year this was cdms last year regardless of record. That is why the urgency for Mullen to get a new agent and why his game plans are sh$t. He is sticking it to us on his swan song. Because for the need for the cigar boys stepping in once again it made the UF/Stricklin marriage even more likely. It's a real good chance we have a person that wants this job lined up.

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I have no doubt he is sticking it to us. But let's pay him another 4 million to stick it to us again next year. We are M State.

Since the ED owners and almost all its members want Mullen fired, you should show how serious you are and raise up part of the how ever many millions that will cost. I'd be very interested in how important much getting a new coach is to you guys when it comes to your pocketbook.

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

How hard will O recruit to get as much talent as possible??? He is a warrior on the recruiting side

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I agree with this. If LSU does not offer him the permanent job, I really hope we will. It's pretty obvious that our recruiting has not been very good for a long time. Coach O excels in recruiting, the players love him, and I'm sure he would hire some great assistant coaches.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Since the ED owners and almost all its members want Mullen fired, you should show how serious you are and raise up part of the how ever many millions that will cost. I'd be very interested in how important much getting a new coach is to you guys when it comes to your pocketbook.

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Pretty sure a famous alum left $$ specifically for this day

Someone in "the know" and help me understand if there is anyone currently on staff worth keeping (ala Hughes) when the changes do happen? For some reason I think T. Buck is worth trying to keep. Sirmon is probably out as a new coach would want a new DC, but anyone on staff that is new that has proven themselves recruiting so far that is worth trying to keep?

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Originally Posted by Barkman Turner Overdrive

Leech ain't coming here. If Klingsbury can't win against Big 12 Defenses, he won't fair very well against SEC Defenses. I do like Mike Gundy if it is true he is sideways with Boone and Co at OSU.

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That was me talking Kingsbury with Starkvegas. His first 4 games this year his team averaged 59.5 points per game. Last night he scored 38 with a QB who had an injured shoulder and was a game time decision.

Instead of looking at his W/L record, I'm looking at what he has done offensively at Houston, aTm and TT. At all 3 places he has had explosive offenses. In their losses last year they scored 52,35,27,53,26 and 27. Doesn't sound like opposing defenses are the problem for him.

If what you said about Gundy is true, he should be very high on a list also.

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Originally Posted by ILOATHEBears

Pretty sure a famous alum left $$ specifically for this day

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Who has power of attorney over this trust? What's the balance?

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

Someone in "the know" and help me understand if there is anyone currently on staff worth keeping (ala Hughes) when the changes do happen? For some reason I think T. Buck is worth trying to keep. Sirmon is probably out as a new coach would want a new DC, but anyone on staff that is new that has proven themselves recruiting so far that is worth trying to keep?

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TBuck. Also 3 members of the recruiting staff...

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Ken Niumatalolo

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I will stop attending games if we go triple option. You can forget being the game with QB and wr. Tech people hate johnson

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

I will stop attending games if we go triple option. You can forget being the game with QB and wr. Tech people hate johnson

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Navy people aren't hating ken. Tulane people are happy with fritz

I bet #5 changes after OM beats us like we stole something

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

People need to realize- we are not firing Dan Mullen. We're not

We have to depend on Jimmy Sexton. Hopefully we are doing homework and preparing ourselves for Sexton to do his job well. Remember- you change agents because you are unhappy with your current agent or you realize another agent can benefit you more. Sexton is the top guy around right now

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If we are set in stone not firing him then you can bet your ass that he is gonna be here next year cause nobody wants him. Hes tried and tried to leave but nobody would take him why would they after a 3-9 trainwreck? CAN. HIS. ASS.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Navy people aren't hating ken. Tulane people are happy with fritz

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We need to run an offense that's a quick strike but with a power running game. I also want an attcking D.

I don't want to pile on at this point because it really does nobody any good. If changes are to be made at the end of the season then I won't be involved in it anyway but I certainly won't be opposed if they are made. Only thing I will say is that it is sad in the fact that I have never seen a coach squander such an opportunity to truly elevate a program as Dan Mullen did following our landmark 2014 season where we spent 5 weeks as the talk of all of college football. Such a waste and right here at the time that the Bears are going to be slammed by the NCAA.

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

If we are set in stone not firing him then you can bet your ass that he is gonna be here next year cause nobody wants him. Hes tried and tried to leave but nobody would take him why would they after a 3-9 trainwreck? CAN. HIS. ASS.

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He was gone last year til Richt was let go at uga

Mullen can lose out this season and still be one of a small handful of coaches that finished above the .500 mark here at State.

But now, his passion for MSU is gone and it's painfully obvious. I have been complaining about the use of our RB personnel for over a year now, and it's also obvious that we have guys on the sidelines that could have helped us last year, and could have helped us up to this point in 2016. However, nothing changes. He has no intention of trying to improve our chances to win games.

I hope it's true that he's looking for a new challenge, but believe that Dan will likely have the same 6-8 year shelf life anywhere he gets a job. It's been confirmed in my mind that he's checked out with his responsibilities here at State. Since he wants to be gone, let it be so. Time to start over.

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

He was gone last year til Richt was let go at uga

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Im guessing you are talking about him going to Miami? I dont believe it. He interviewed down there before and they didnt like him because ''he invented football''. Fire his ass

What pisses me off the most is that Mullen was allowed to do this. This crap didn't just happen over night. Our athletic department DID NOT hold him accountable and let him do what he damn well pleased. Now that it has hit the fan a certain person who shall not be named got outta dodge because he didn't have the stones to deal with a problem he enabled! And this unnamed person was supposedly a bulldog

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Originally Posted by msstatelp1

How good can any coach be without elite talent? Show me any coach that has won continuously with below average talent.

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Chris Peterson - Boise State.

Random we are the exact same page. The only thing I can see that I know that you understand is the fact that we have SOME talent. Enough talent to at least be competing. The players that we have are not well coached, I do agree. However, we have enough players that if they were put in the right position, they would compete for 6 or 7 wins. OL is the most glaring weakness but that position has been a problem since Hevesy got here.

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

1. Just not a whole lot to say about Saturday. 2 weeks off to get ready. Playing at home. Then its 35-0 at halftime. They just lined up and whipped our ass. They threw enough to hit some big plays- but they didnt do much because they simply didnt have to. Just whipped our ass. Auburn gave not one **** when they came out in the 2nd half- all they wanted to do was burn clock and get back home. They had proved their point.

2. Yep- I'm gonna say "I told you so". You knew I would. We struggled to beat UMass. We lost to South Alabama. There was no way in hell we were going to play with Auburn- who has one of the SEC's best OL's and DL's. Unless you have bigtime playmakers like an OM- you cant overcome a team thats much better than you upfront. That is where football is won and lost. When I saw we couldnt run at all on LSU- I knew we were going to see pretty much the same thing vs Auburn. Thats football. Miss State cant afford to have a guy that is not a relentless recruiter or someone that doesnt fix problems with recruiting on his staff. T-Buck was employed for 3 weeks before signing day- and he pulled in our highest rated OL recruit. Its that kind of crap that has seen us get to this point.
Auburn is a team that is young at RB, WR, and LB- but they have talent. They are getting better every week. You can see it. State is a team that is not getting better every week. You can see that too.

3. We have a severe lack of overall talent. If you arent convinced already- wait until we struggle vs BYU and Kentucky. Our current recruiting strategy this year to load up on jucos isnt going to help that. Reeks of desperation. And no matter how many times Mullen says it- we arent young. 30 of our 44 on the depth chart are 3rd year college players or better. 2/3 of them are in their 3rd year of college or better.

4. Guess what guys? Dan Mullen has a new agent. You may have heard of him- Jimmy Sexton. He's already working it with 2-3 schools already.

5. My guy told me yesterday that we absolutely will not fire Dan Mullen after this season. "But if he leaves, nobody is going to be sad". Also said of course Mullen wouldnt get his contract extended after the season either. Would put him down to 2 years. "But I'll be very surprised if he is here. I predict Sexton finds him another gig, Mullen takes the paycut citing it's time for a new challenge or some BS like that". This guy was around decision makers all day yesterday. Very telling of where we are right now with our football program.

6. I simply dont understand how Holloway keeps playing. How in the hell could you recruit that terribly at RB not to have someone you trust more than him to help your offense? It's become a big joke now. Holloway should be a D-II All-American at Delta State or somewhere.

7. If Brian Johnson did indeed call plays in the 2nd half- dont read much into it. The game was decided and Mullen was just letting him get some experience. You can bet he and Hev already call a play or two here and there during games already. "Hey coach- the left DE keeps squeezing- run the zone read here". Happens all over at every school.

8. We didnt play Damien at all. That tells me we have decided to get Fitz as much experience as possible moving forward to next year. Tiano aint happening either. Coming out of the bye week down 35-0 would have been the perfect time to play Tiano. We didnt. Tells you all you need to know. We cant play another RB other than Holloway down 35-0, we shirley wont play another QB.

9. Bama is going to win the NC again unless LSU can stop them. Their offense is ridiculous. LSU getting an off week is huge for them moving forward making their changes on offense. A&M is 6-0 for the 1st time in 20 years. Auburn gets better every week and they have lots of young, talented guys. UPig actually scored 30 on Bama- but was outclassed. Gonna be hard to slow them down with our D. OM has a great offense. BYU won on the road at Michigan State last night. Kentucky has 3 wins now- that will be a battle. Not many wins for us left out there. The streak is about to be over. With that said.....

10. The owners of Elitedawgs.com have unanimously decided that we will no longer support Coach Dan Mullen as the leader of our football program. His perpetual job hunting every December has not allowed the program to capitalize on the amazing successes we've seen in recent years. Due to the lack of passion on the field and in recruiting, desire, dedication, and the obvious lack of buy-in from his own players, we feel strongly that changes need to be made at the end of the season.

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Mullen is done, you could see it in his demeanor on the sidelines yesterday. Once you lose a team to this extent there's no way to get it back. The players have stop playing hard for him. It's probably gonna get worst. I'm sure the players know he's hired Sexton, they know he wants out. It's over!
We need to start looking now!

If sexton does work his magic and gets Dan another job we wont have to pay his buyout right?

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Originally Posted by Sacrifice

Mullen is done, you could see it in his demeanor on the sidelines yesterday. Once you lose a team to this extent there's no way to get it back. The players have stop playing hard for him. It's probably gonna get worst. I'm sure the players know he's hired Sexton, they know he wants out. It's over!
We need to start looking now!

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That post game presser was the last shovel of shit on a pile already ten feet tall. I half expected him to pull a Croom and say "Well, I knew we were gonna lose this game."

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

1. Just not a whole lot to say about Saturday. 2 weeks off to get ready. Playing at home. Then its 35-0 at halftime. They just lined up and whipped our ass. They threw enough to hit some big plays- but they didnt do much because they simply didnt have to. Just whipped our ass. Auburn gave not one **** when they came out in the 2nd half- all they wanted to do was burn clock and get back home. They had proved their point.

2. Yep- I'm gonna say "I told you so". You knew I would. We struggled to beat UMass. We lost to South Alabama. There was no way in hell we were going to play with Auburn- who has one of the SEC's best OL's and DL's. Unless you have bigtime playmakers like an OM- you cant overcome a team thats much better than you upfront. That is where football is won and lost. When I saw we couldnt run at all on LSU- I knew we were going to see pretty much the same thing vs Auburn. Thats football. Miss State cant afford to have a guy that is not a relentless recruiter or someone that doesnt fix problems with recruiting on his staff. T-Buck was employed for 3 weeks before signing day- and he pulled in our highest rated OL recruit. Its that kind of crap that has seen us get to this point.
Auburn is a team that is young at RB, WR, and LB- but they have talent. They are getting better every week. You can see it. State is a team that is not getting better every week. You can see that too.

3. We have a severe lack of overall talent. If you arent convinced already- wait until we struggle vs BYU and Kentucky. Our current recruiting strategy this year to load up on jucos isnt going to help that. Reeks of desperation. And no matter how many times Mullen says it- we arent young. 30 of our 44 on the depth chart are 3rd year college players or better. 2/3 of them are in their 3rd year of college or better.

4. Guess what guys? Dan Mullen has a new agent. You may have heard of him- Jimmy Sexton. He's already working it with 2-3 schools already.

5. My guy told me yesterday that we absolutely will not fire Dan Mullen after this season. "But if he leaves, nobody is going to be sad". Also said of course Mullen wouldnt get his contract extended after the season either. Would put him down to 2 years. "But I'll be very surprised if he is here. I predict Sexton finds him another gig, Mullen takes the paycut citing it's time for a new challenge or some BS like that". This guy was around decision makers all day yesterday. Very telling of where we are right now with our football program.

6. I simply dont understand how Holloway keeps playing. How in the hell could you recruit that terribly at RB not to have someone you trust more than him to help your offense? It's become a big joke now. Holloway should be a D-II All-American at Delta State or somewhere.

7. If Brian Johnson did indeed call plays in the 2nd half- dont read much into it. The game was decided and Mullen was just letting him get some experience. You can bet he and Hev already call a play or two here and there during games already. "Hey coach- the left DE keeps squeezing- run the zone read here". Happens all over at every school.

8. We didnt play Damien at all. That tells me we have decided to get Fitz as much experience as possible moving forward to next year. Tiano aint happening either. Coming out of the bye week down 35-0 would have been the perfect time to play Tiano. We didnt. Tells you all you need to know. We cant play another RB other than Holloway down 35-0, we shirley wont play another QB.

9. Bama is going to win the NC again unless LSU can stop them. Their offense is ridiculous. LSU getting an off week is huge for them moving forward making their changes on offense. A&M is 6-0 for the 1st time in 20 years. Auburn gets better every week and they have lots of young, talented guys. UPig actually scored 30 on Bama- but was outclassed. Gonna be hard to slow them down with our D. OM has a great offense. BYU won on the road at Michigan State last night. Kentucky has 3 wins now- that will be a battle. Not many wins for us left out there. The streak is about to be over. With that said.....

10. The owners of Elitedawgs.com have unanimously decided that we will no longer support Coach Dan Mullen as the leader of our football program. His perpetual job hunting every December has not allowed the program to capitalize on the amazing successes we've seen in recent years. Due to the lack of passion on the field and in recruiting, desire, dedication, and the obvious lack of buy-in from his own players, we feel strongly that changes need to be made at the end of the season.

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Random Poster,

Clear out your DM's or check any alternate user names you have for a pvt msg

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Originally Posted by Sacrifice

Mullen is done, you could see it in his demeanor on the sidelines yesterday. Once you lose a team to this extent there's no way to get it back. The players have stop playing hard for him. It's probably gonna get worst. I'm sure the players know he's hired Sexton, they know he wants out. It's over!
We need to start looking now!

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"You are correct sir".

I barely care enough to type a post. Just want to say, I miss the 4-3. All of my concerns about it all offseason have come true. Also, can't believe we are playing Simmons at NG.

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Im guessing you are talking about him going to Miami? I dont believe it. He interviewed down there before and they didnt like him because ''he invented football''. Fire his ass

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I heard the reason he keeps not getting high profile jobs has nothing to do with demeanor.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I barely care enough to type a post. Just want to say, I miss the 4-3. All of my concerns about it all offseason have come true. Also, can't believe we are playing Simmons at NG.

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I agree with this. I really worry that we'll maximize potential with Adams (younger), Kobe, Simmons, and maybe even Spencer

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Originally Posted by ILOATHEBears

I agree with all this except one part. The decision makers decided at the beginning of the year this was cdms last year regardless of record. That is why the urgency for Mullen to get a new agent and why his game plans are sh$t. He is sticking it to us on his swan song. Because for the need for the cigar boys stepping in once again it made the UF/Stricklin marriage even more likely. It's a real good chance we have a person that wants this job lined up.

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Someone has been paying attention.

I said months ago that Keenum finally stepped in this off season and laid down the law to Dan and Scott. No longer would Keenum allow CDM walk all over SS without consequence. Keenum told Dan no raise, no extension, and neither until Hev was gone and he stopped whoring himself out each year, hurting our program.

I wasn't going to post this publicly until what I witnessed in person yesterday. I'm fairly certain every MSU fan with half a brain saw yesterday what some of us have been seeing the last 4 years. A coach who doesn't give a shit. Dak bought Dan two additional years than he wouldn't had without Dak.

During the off season meeting with Keenum and being big told to clean up his antics and chance his attitude and what actually sparked the no extension or raise talk were these exact words from Dans mouth to Keenum. "If I couldn't win the west these last two years with Dak as my QB, I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WIN THE WEST OR SEC AT MISSISSIPPI STATE." That's when Keenum lost it and wanted to fire him on the spot but didn't for obvious reasons. He is essentially letting Dan hang himself because Dan quit on pit program two years ago. Then Dan has essentially carried over his defeatist attitude and we have the 2016 short wearing Mullen and season. That's why Strick got out when he could because he was going to be on the same greyhound leaving Starkville when Mullen does. Keenum is fed up with CDM. It's just a matter of when, not if at this point. I just hope we don't wait and suffer too long.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I agree with this. I really worry that we'll maximize potential with Adams (younger), Kobe, Simmons, and maybe even Spencer

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We have the personnel for a 4-2-5. That's what I was really hoping we would go to.

DE: Calvin
DT: Simmons
DT: James/Adams
DE: Jefferson

LB: R. Brown
LB: L. Lewis

DOG: Peters/McLaurin

S: Coman
S: Bryant
C: Jiles
C: Graham

That unit could have stopped the run.

#10

Thank you.

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Random Poster,

Clear out your DM's or check any alternate user names you have for a pvt msg

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I am the one and only Random Poster

Cleared

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Someone has been paying attention.

I said months ago that Keenum finally stepped in this off season and laid down the law to Dan and Scott. No longer would Keenum allow CDM walk all over SS without consequence. Keenum told Dan no raise, no extension, and neither until Hev was gone and he stopped whoring himself out each year, hurting our program.

I wasn't going to post this publicly until what I witnessed in person yesterday. I'm fairly certain every MSU fan with half a brain saw yesterday what some of us have been seeing the last 4 years. A coach who doesn't give a shit. Dak bought Dan two additional years than he wouldn't had without Dak.

During the off season meeting with Keenum and being big told to clean up his antics and chance his attitude and what actually sparked the no extension or raise talk were these exact words from Dans mouth to Keenum. "If I couldn't win the west these last two years with Dak as my QB, I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WIN THE WEST OR SEC AT MISSISSIPPI STATE." That's when Keenum lost it and wanted to fire him on the spot but didn't for obvious reasons. He is essentially letting Dan hang himself because Dan quit on pit program two years ago. Then Dan has essentially carried over his defeatist attitude and we have the 2016 short wearing Mullen and season. That's why Strick got out when he could because he was going to be on the same greyhound leaving Starkville when Mullen does. Keenum is fed up with CDM. It's just a matter of when, not if at this point. I just hope we don't wait and suffer too long.

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This is the version that I hope is true. But if it were why wouldn't Mullen try to increase his stock with a good showing without dak?

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Someone has been paying attention.

I said months ago that Keenum finally stepped in this off season and laid down the law to Dan and Scott. No longer would Keenum allow CDM walk all over SS without consequence. Keenum told Dan no raise, no extension, and neither until Hev was gone and he stopped whoring himself out each year, hurting our program.

I wasn't going to post this publicly until what I witnessed in person yesterday. I'm fairly certain every MSU fan with half a brain saw yesterday what some of us have been seeing the last 4 years. A coach who doesn't give a shit. Dak bought Dan two additional years than he wouldn't had without Dak.

During the off season meeting with Keenum and being big told to clean up his antics and chance his attitude and what actually sparked the no extension or raise talk were these exact words from Dans mouth to Keenum. "If I couldn't win the west these last two years with Dak as my QB, I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WIN THE WEST OR SEC AT MISSISSIPPI STATE." That's when Keenum lost it and wanted to fire him on the spot but didn't for obvious reasons. He is essentially letting Dan hang himself because Dan quit on pit program two years ago. Then Dan has essentially carried over his defeatist attitude and we have the 2016 short wearing Mullen and season. That's why Strick got out when he could because he was going to be on the same greyhound leaving Starkville when Mullen does. Keenum is fed up with CDM. It's just a matter of when, not if at this point. I just hope we don't wait and suffer too long.

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I hope you are correct on this. Couple of actual big boys said it wasnt going to happen this year