Petrino is the shit. How in the hell can you even compare him and briles. If you want a briles comparison you are going to have to start moving towards Sandusky joe pa type stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
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Petrino is the shit. How in the hell can you even compare him and briles. If you want a briles comparison you are going to have to start moving towards Sandusky joe pa type stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Lying to your boss and covering up rape aren't equalQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Why give him money in a settlement then?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Honestly if we're going to not recruit worth a shit we might as well get a coach that runs the triple option. You don't need superior athletes and it's fairly easy to learn while defenses cant really prepare for all the cut blocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by BayouDawg
lol I know man. I really don't want that either. I think I'm just depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Unless we go all-in like om, we will have a very tough time finding a coach that can out recruit bama, lsu, auburn, and aTm. We can and certainly should recruit with om and Arkansas assuming neither is cheating excessively. So we have to find a way to neutralize the talent gap we will almost always be facing... Mullen's redshirting process could work if we get better talent to start with or a gimmicky offense (like the triple option) is our best betQuote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
I think everyone knows we'll never be a top 10 composite recruiter but there is absolutely no reason we can't be in the high teens and 20s. The reason we don't have adequate o line talent is because Hev only offers players that come to our camp. You've gotta go out and beat the bushes to find good o line talent especially in Mississippi.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
There is also no reason for our defensive backs to be so putrid. Mississippi has always produced an abundance of servicable defensive backs. When Mullen cared we used to get as many of the dandy dozen as we wanted.
All of our recruiting problems aren't due to ole miss cheating that's a cop out and an excuse for our coach's laziness. We are currently well under the 85 man limit and that's why we are having to sign all these juco guys that may or may not pan out.
I agree we have to make staff changes and recruit better. With that said if we get high teens or low 20s, that has us 5th in the west at best. We still have to find a way to close that gap to be competitive with the top teams in the west and I think triple option could be what we need... maybe more of what willie fritz does at Tulane than Ken N at navy. A super pass happy offense could help alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
I could get behind the guy from Tulane. He runs the triple option out the pistol if I'm not mistaken. I really like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If Mullen leaves this year, I would love to have willie fritzQuote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
I think I'll go to Tulane's next home game and get a first hand look. I don't think I'll be making the 5 hour drive to Starkville again this football season. Today was aweful. I had planned on staying til Monday cause I'm off work for Columbus Day but I just had to wash my hands of the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Friday night at home vs Memphis. Should be a good game and with the ride home should keep you from watching ours hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
I'll plan on going but no promises. No matter how pissed I get at MSU athletics I always get sucked right back in.
Mike Leach
What say ye?
That dude is weird as dirt but he's hilarious. I don't know if he'd be able to get the players to run his system here. And if you think we're soft and finesse now, just wait and see what an air raid coach would bring in
No wayQuote:
Originally Posted by PassInterference
I don't care why he was given money in a settlement....the guy is DAMAGED goods. Whether true or not, he's someone that MSU doesn't need to be associated with....I don't care if he scores 70 a game. We don't need the media backlash that will come with his hire. His defenses suck also, so he's got that going against him as well. If you're going to be competitive in the SEC....you're going to have to have a defense and his teams usually don't have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
The media shits on us no matter what. We shouldn't make a hire based on what the media might say. If an Auburn or an Oregon hire Briles there may be a little backlash but it'll die down quick because they will say yea we hired him if you don't like it go **** yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheIttaBenaHotSun
Yeah but can you pull for a team led by him or tell your kids to respect him? No on briles, period. It's not going to happen at State, thank goodness.Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Oh I'm not saying hire Briles at all. I just could care less about the media backlash. when a team like auburn or Oregon hires him though there won't be much backlash at all. Just like if we Had released Simmons and he had gone to bama or unm there wouldn't have been any backlash. Bottom line is the media craps on us because we allow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimberBeast
Also I think a lot of this has to do with most of your journalists in Texas are from UT. If this type of scandal had happened at UT the story would have never seen the light of day. Just like the Tennessee incident has been neatly swept under the rug.
You're absolutely right, we shouldn't hire Briles based on what the media might say. We shouldn't hire Briles because we don't need to be associated with him period and his defenses suck and then you have the media backlash that someone's going to get when they do hire him.......I just don't want it to be my team getting the backlash.
Oh I completely understand. I'm just saying don't be surprised if and when an Auburn or an Oregon hires Briles there won't be much if any backlash. They'll tell the media types where they can shove it. We on the other hand allow the media to do as they please to us. See the Simmons ordeal at SEC media days as exhibit AQuote:
Originally Posted by InTheIttaBenaHotSun
Here is my take. We are in the SEC west, We Are MSU. We can't do it like everyone else. we have to play out on the edge. The MCGuffin in this Story is recruiting. For little ole MSU to have a chance we must recruit like a Mfer . Now saying that who is the recruitingest mfer out there? The big O. He would be my number one. They I tell everyone to kiss my ass and sign Art Briles to come in with a hard on. I'm tired of being a big *****, you are either all in or get the **** out.
Many of the money guys and guys in power want to win and are trying to shake things up for it to happen. But Briles is not what they want to lead our program, recognize even with the disconnect with Mullen now that he has cleaned up and built a lot of foundation that they do not want Briles possibly destroying. Not to mention they do not want to give the NCAA a reason to be watching our program closely. Briles is an immediate lightening rod that only a few schools can withstand. Unless something changes drastically, just erase Briles from the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Count me out then... condoning rape is not worth winning football games to meQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
How could you feel safe sending your kids to MSU if Briles is the HC?
jeff brohm at western kentucky should be considered. willie taggart at usf should also get a look.
Only State could squander the momentum of reaching #1 in less than 2 years with nothing to show for it. I mean why can't we have nice things?
Condoning rape, a little extreme view there . Where ever Briles goes the chances of condoned rape are zero.He won't let mistake happen again. If you are worried about having a HC that is Rape aware then it would be Briles.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That's one of the weakest arguments to hiring a coach that morally bankrupted himself just to win games. He even lied about bringing a transfer on his team that had been dismissed from Boise because of an accusation. Peterson told him not to take him and why he was dismissed and Briles lied, saying he was never informed. Peterson publically called him out on the lie. This was before the investigation and being publically called out by one of his peers didn't cause him to reevaluate what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Matt Rhule
If you can win at Temple, you can win anywhere. However I am sure he is waiting on the Penn St job as he turned down Syracuse and one other last year.
But he would be a good one to interview.
Anyone who cannot see why we not any respectable program should go near briles, needs a serious reality check. Aiding the coverup and silencing of crimes is never acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Briles isn't going to rape anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil Caine
And he won't tell on you if you doQuote:
Originally Posted by scottycameron
But he is ok bringing one to your campus just so he can win games and have staff members intimidate victims to keep the kids eligible and the issue covered up.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottycameron
Pump the brakes on O. He's coached 1 game at LSU.
Neither would Paterno. Wouldn't want anyone with those kinds of problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by scottycameron
Why is Baylor giving him money for a settlement?Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
They settled in 24 hours instead of having another lawsuit going at the same time and they did not want further information coming out from the full investigation report. Briles was threatening to sue over wrongful termination and other claims and threatened to pull out as a co-Defendant with the University vs a victim who brought a lawsuit against them. It was strickly a leverage play as they were already in settlement talks over his remaining contract to get more money for that buyout. What also came out over his extorting them for more money, was during this 24 hour period when Briles attorney filed these motions, including seperating themselves from the Universities council in the lawsuit, they called the victims attorneys to say they would be at the mediation the following day to support and APOLOGIZE to her and her family. Then let that information get leaked solely for the purpose of extorting a bigger settlement. They settled in 24 hours and neither Briles nor his Attorney showed up to the mediation and have never apologized as they promised. The victims attorney immediately informed the press what happened and publically stated that they used the threat of helping the victim as a negotiation leverage. He doesn't give one damn about those girls, the cover up or the fact his staff intimidated victims to keep them silent. But this moot, our Pres and power people are not going to sacrifice our integrity to bring on this snake. And that's not just speculation. Many many many things and people would have to do a 180 for he to even get a call to interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61