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My understanding is that the true D-league contracts are for peanuts, but teams have the option of stashing young players that they sign in the D-league, more like how MLB does it. I think the players that the teams stash there are still paid according to their NBA contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
Whatever Malik does, he is still & will always be a Dawg & I won't consider him stupid no matter his decision.
Whether he stays or goes I'll root for him & hope for the best & wish him luck.
What he's done for our program, you can't put a price on it.
No shit. Crazy to see people bash a MSU player that picked MSU literally over every other NCAA basketball team, performed well for a truer freshman despite injuries (even if he didn't perform up to expectations), seemed to be a good teammate despite all the hype and attention he got and despite some older players maybe having their egos bruised over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
And not only bash him, but bash him for doing what any non-moron in his place would do. He has the opportunity to work on his game in front of scouts, get feedback, and maybe play his way into a million dollar contract, and none of it impacts his NCAA eligibility. What kind of idiot wouldn't take advantage of that.
And for all the people saying he's already made his mind to go pro, neither he nor his father is ignorant of the process and know a good agent could help him, so he would have an agent if he were dead set against coming back. He may be heavily leaning towards going pro, but I can't believe he wouldn't have an agent if coming back weren't an option.
Strong post. My thoughts exactly. This is really all that mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by tireddawg
Next years team has the ability to be very exciting and look good doing it if they play smart. Excitement, fan fare, interest is pivotal in draft stock whether it be weak or stud. They just gotta do what they do. However, a great offer should never be turned down.
Erase turnovers, use athleticism, run the floor, put the ball in the others team face every so often and roll on
Some buzz
Agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
He isn't going to transfer.. No way he loses a year of eligibility .. And no one can blame the kid if he wants to go pro.. He wouldn't have come to college in the first place if the stupid one and done rule wasnt in play..
Shit first round picks sometimes go to the Dleague...
If he's smart and cares about his career not his ego he'll be in stark next season. If I were and NBA GM I wouldnt draft him why would you??? Bear has a better chance of being drafted than him. Dont get me wrong I like him Im not trying to bash the kid but cmon man
It's Malik's talent to do whatever he pleases I just wish the process wasn't holding everyone else hostage till he's decided. It's selfish imo.
I'm sure CBH has a pretty good idea what he is going to do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Harrydawg has as good a source as you can have ....the one talking out of their ass is you...but, then again, that's par for the Elitedawgs course...Hahaha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
To me, we've clearly been a 'we will watch the paint dry' type team. That changes next year, possibly just due to chemistry.
In a regular mood, you may 'offer' to buy your friend a drink, but while highly excited, you tend to offer, you, and you, and you...well just get one for everybody on me type thing
I think he should stay but understand if he doesn't. The NBA is where he set his heart on and if he comes back another year, they are going to pick his game apart. He is a shooter. Period. He is not a PG, doesn't handle the ball all that well, and has limited court vision. Another year at MSU would seal his fate of playing overseas. I'm good with whatever he does, but I would be more concerned with losing Q to the NBA.
Because he has an elite skill. He may ore may not end up being a good all around player in the NBA, but his shooting is good enough that it seems likely that he can carve out a niche as a shooter.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTHOM
Good grief, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Joe Strugg wouldn't like to know if he's playing here next year? All the transfers wouldn't like to know if they can sign with us? Or does everyone else prefer to put their basketball careers on hold till MN makes up his mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Malik Neuman didn't design the draft process, and it's not his responsibility to limit his options to make it easier on other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Having to worry about underclassmen good enough to justify testing the waters is a 'problem' that I hope we have more of in the future.
Literally the only option that would be stupid for him would be to transfer to another school sit out another year and then play in the next year that would put him in some college limbo for three years. To me, that is the only stupid option he could take. Also msstate7, Rodney Hood never had his eyes set on being a one and done so that case does not apply to this case.
Rodney wouldn't have left if he Ben Howland as coach.
It's not Malik's problem that the draft process is what it is. He has potentially millions on the line and you want him to hurry up and make a decision so some other kid can make up their mind about where to play college basketball. You sound like the selfish one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Yeah, there is no way in hell he transfers. That takes him from being a one and done to a three and done (at best). He would have to sit out next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrydawg
D-League pays millions now? Shit I'd put five other guys plans on hold to play in Iowa City too. My bad Newman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
He could hardly play 2 games in a row at the end of the year without cramping or being hurt, I wish he would come back because I dont wanna see him in the D leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
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Originally Posted by Johnson85
There is no downside to what he is doing. As far as people saying he has made up his mind, maybe he has or maybe he is getting his mind set like he is going. Very successful people have the ability to set your mind on a goal and somehow make it happen. If he is healthy with the way he can shoot, he might get drafted in the first round. As much as I love MSU, I hope he does great and stays in the league for a long time.
I guess you will have to forgive the guy for not just taking your word for where he is going to end up. This is a life changing decision, and he could still make hundreds of thousands of dollars in the D league if an NBA team were to draft him and set that up. It pretty much isn't any of your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Hope there's still a decent grad transfer available when that time comes. I'd hate for MSU to lose out on another player that'll help us next year because we are waiting on a player that at the end of the day is going pro no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Do you honestly think that we are not going get a grad transfer we want because of Malik? It sounds like you have something personal against Malik. You come off in your posts as extremely unintelligent. Howland is a pro. Trust him and settle down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
If he is going pro no matter what and someone like a casual fan like you knows that, don't you think our head coach who has been to 3 final fours knows that as well? And even if he doesn't, it's still none of your business when Malik Newman decides to make a final decision about whether or not he stays in the draft. It's his life, not yours. Whether or not State gets a grad transfer or not because of how long he takes to decide to enter the NBA is not his problem and anyone that tries to make it his problem is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
And the thread ends.....Quote:
Originally Posted by YazooDawg23
How do you know we haven't missed on a player already? We already missed on Tookie Brown whose an actual true PG last year. I don't have anything personal towards MN I am just not sure he's worth all of this when you start adding up players last year we didn't take for him and players right now we aren't taking for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by YazooDawg23
You're correct my problem isn't with Malik it's with Howland letting Newman's decision dictate our roster next year. He's not coming back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
close to it...Jarnell Stokes gets almost 900K in D-League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
Count me in meggaditto's this!
So we aren't "holding a spot open for him" and MSU won't have missed out on any recruit if Malik leaves State. If Malik decides to stay, then we might be one over the limit and will have to process out an underperforming player/signee, which may or may not be a guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
OH NO WE LOST TOOKIE!! We currently have four 4 star guards committed and it's no secret we are in the market for a PF type in the transfer market. Again, Malik's decision has no impact if we decide to take a grad-transfer PF or not. Your argument holds less water every time you type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Again the thread should end with this......Quote:
Originally Posted by YazooDawg23
His decision just decides Joe Strugg's future?
I agree, mic, but you're dreaming if you think he will stop without getting the last word.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic