Today is another great example against bunting

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yesterday's bunt was fine....today's was one of the worst coaching moves I e seen made in my life. Not only was it early in the game, it was with a man already on 2nd, and we know we have zero pitching beyond Hudson and Sexton. Just an absolutely horrid call. Seriously one of the worst calls ever to bunt Kruger today.

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Was a bad coaching blunder.

Btw Clint, Happy Easter to you and your family, I believe you know he has Risen!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

See- it wasnt.

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Yes - It WAS.

Yesterday was late in the game facing a guy with a no hitter going and a chance to get a RISP with Collins & Hump up with less than 2 outs. So yes, it was fine yesterday. Saying otherwise is just trying to be stubborn bc you yet again want another coach fired.

You could be the best power team in the country and yesterday's makes sense. Today's did not. Two totally different situations at two totally different points in the game.

You play to win...last nights was playing to win. Today's was a total wtf moment. You can't just say "never bunt _____, EVAH....in college baseball and it be fact. You play to win. F a certain player if he never wants to bunt. Do I agree with Cohen's incessant meddling & bunting? No. But last night's was fine, & you would agree if Cohen hadn't been the man that called it. You only pointed last night's out bc of Cohen's stupid bunt calls...but if you truly knew what you were talking about, you'd know last night's didn't fall under the dipshit category of bunting that several of Cohen's bunt calls fall under. You let your hatred of Cohen's style affect your judgement on that one. Today's was horrific though, no doubt.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Was a bad coaching blunder.

Btw Clint, Happy Easter to you and your family, I believe you know he has Risen!

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Indeed, my friend. Happy Easter to you and yours as well (and to all EliteDawgs!).... I hope you guys have a great day tomorrow, basedog. Thanks for the well wishes

Love all the retards coming to defend the King Retard. Ralph, basedog and the hom0. Your King shall be fired. The wheels are in motion. I suggest you follow him when he does get fired. I said it would be this year before the season started. Let's see if I'm right. Again.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yes - It WAS.

Yesterday was late in the game facing a guy with a no hitter going and a chance to get a RISP with Collins & Hump up with less than 2 outs. So yes, it was fine yesterday. Saying otherwise is just trying to be stubborn bc you yet again want another coach fired.

You could be the best power team in the country and yesterday's makes sense. Today's did not. Two totally different situations at two totally different points in the game.

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It wasnt late in the game- it was the 6th inning. You dont give a guy an out thats walked 6 hitters already- struggling to find the plate. You dont bunt with the middle of your order unless its the bottom of the the last inning in a tie game- and even then its a maybe

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Love all the retards coming to defend the King Retard. Ralph, basedog and the hom0. Your King shall be fired. The wheels are in motion. I suggest you follow him when he does get fired. I said it would be this year before the season started. Let's see if I'm right. Again.

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Number 1, I can assure you he isn't my king. 2, Cohen isn't getting fired if we make post season. 3, it is true your post ranks up there in the top 3-4 of the dumbest things I've ever read, and that's saying something.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Love all the retards coming to defend the King Retard. Ralph, basedog and the hom0. Your King shall be fired. The wheels are in motion. I suggest you follow him when he does get fired. I said it would be this year before the season started. Let's see if I'm right. Again.

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I don't defend everything Cohen does, again calling me a retard, dude u must have the "little man's disease? U post like I see you, our "little bitch",

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Originally Posted by Dawg62

Not to mention they've never had to bunt in their lives and probably haven't even practiced it but a few times. If someone can't bunt, don't call a bunt. All other reasons aside. You don't draw up a Gavin Ware 3 play do you? No.

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Gavin Ware comparison is awful on so many levels. If there was a shooting order in hoops, you Might be within a mile of having a point.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

It wasnt late in the game- it was the 6th inning. You dont give a guy an out thats walked 6 hitters already- struggling to find the plate. You dont bunt with the middle of your order unless its the bottom of the the last inning in a tie game- and even then its a maybe

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You also don't bunt when a guy is throwing a no-hitter. Cause nobody can hit him. Only if you're trying for a hit with a bunt do you try it.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Far far from a moron, if I'm a typical Msu fan I'll take that with pride. Yes I bleed maroon and white and I don't always agree with coaches. I just don't bitch like a moaning little girl. U remind me of my kids "when are we gonna get there". Quit the bitching on every pitch and let's see how the season goes.

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How hard is it to understand that us that are bitching are saying we understand we will lose some games, but losing them due to dumb ass coaching is unacceptable. I have no problem if we lose games because we get out hit or pitching has a bad day or whatever, but when your coach bunts in the first inning today then with your cleanup hitter in the early innings and gives up outs, and runs, game after game, it's just unacceptable!

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Originally Posted by basedog

I don't defend everything Cohen does, again calling me a retard, dude u must have the "little man's disease? U post like I see you, our "little bitch",

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My horse cock doesn't even fit in your wife's airplane hangar of a pus$y. Ask around about it. It's well known.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Gavin Ware comparison is awful on so many levels. If there was a shooting order in hoops, you Might be within a mile of having a point.

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Gavin can't shoot 3's. Don't call a play where he shoots a 3.
Kruger can't bunt real well. Don't call a play where he bunts.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Number 1, I can assure you he isn't my king. 2, Cohen isn't getting fired if we make post season. 3, it is true your post ranks up there in the top 3-4 of the dumbest things I've ever read, and that's saying something.

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With just one letter change your name turns into hom0dawg. Looks like you did about as much thinking when you named yourself as you do when you post anything ever.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

My horse cock doesn't even fit in your wife's airplane hangar of a pus$y. Ask around about it. It's well known.

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No doubt you have the "little man's disease", what a little bitch u are!

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Originally Posted by Dawg62

Gavin can't shoot 3's. Don't call a play where he shoots a 3.
Kruger can't bunt real well. Don't call a play where he bunts.

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Thats actually a really good analogy. We've asked Collins/Kruger to bunt 3 times in SEC play- 2 of those ended with K's

And Coach the one last night I could go either way on. I disagreed with it as well but really didn't have too much of a problem with it, if that makes sense. Coach Les John Cohen Miles!!

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Originally Posted by basedog

No doubt you have the "little man's disease", what a little bitch u are!

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You type like a junior high girl just receiving her first period. You is spelled by hitting the y the o and the u consecutively to form the word "you". Replacing "you" with "u" is embarrassing yourself grandpa. Please sit back down in your retirement present your airplane hangar wife bought you.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

With just one letter change your name turns into hom0dawg. Looks like you did about as much thinking when you named yourself as you do when you post anything ever.

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Solid rebuttal. So Cohen will be fired? Go on the record...your post wasn't ****ing stupid?... Like I said we make post season and zero percent chance Cohen gets fired wo an arrest.... But just a 62 does, post wo any info just stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Dawg62

Gavin can't shoot 3's. Don't call a play where he shoots a 3.
Kruger can't bunt real well. Don't call a play where he bunts.

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If Gavin was "up" with 1 second left to shoot, and we're down 3....he shoots the 3. Poor comparison. Kruger bunted last night successfully. I agree it was dumb today, but to say _____ never bunts, is dumb. Its college baseball, and Kruger isn't Mark McGwire.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yes - It WAS.

Yesterday was late in the game facing a guy with a no hitter going and a chance to get a RISP with Collins & Hump up with less than 2 outs. So yes, it was fine yesterday. Saying otherwise is just trying to be stubborn bc you yet again want another coach fired.

You could be the best power team in the country and yesterday's makes sense. Today's did not. Two totally different situations at two totally different points in the game.

You play to win...last nights was playing to win. Today's was a total wtf moment. You can't just say "never bunt _____, EVAH....in college baseball and it be fact. You play to win. F a certain player if he never wants to bunt. Do I agree with Cohen's incessant meddling & bunting? No. But last night's was fine, & you would agree if Cohen hadn't been the man that called it. You only pointed last night's out bc of Cohen's stupid bunt calls...but if you truly knew what you were talking about, you'd know last night's didn't fall under the dipshit category of bunting that several of Cohen's bunt calls fall under. You let your hatred of Cohen's style affect your judgement on that one. Today's was horrific though, no doubt.

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I'm totally on board with you. When you don't bunt you are essentially saying I can get 2 hits before I make 3 outs to score a run. When you bunt you are asking for just one hit to score the run before you make the 3rd out. And those odds are good IF one run is really meaningful. Yesterday one run WAS meaningful, today it wasn't. It disturbs me that our head coach can't seem to differentiate the 2 different situations.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Thats actually a really good analogy. We've asked Collins/Kruger to bunt 3 times in SEC play- 2 of those ended with K's

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No it's not. Not defending Cohen, just discussing how wrong you guys are about Lastnight & how awful these pathetic comparisons are. You have plenty of poor Cohen bunt decisions you could target, yet you ridiculously target one of the better ones. Figures.

Fans boo when the coach sends in the punter for fourth and close.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I'm totally on board with you. When you don't bunt you are essentially saying I can get 2 hits before I make 3 outs to score a run. When you bunt you are asking for just one hit to score the run before you make the 3rd out. And those odds are good IF one run is really meaningful. Yesterday one run WAS meaningful, today it wasn't. It disturbs me that our head coach can't seem to differentiate the 2 different situations.

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Maroonmania gets it.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

If Gavin was "up" with 1 second left to shoot, and we're down 3....he shoots the 3. Poor comparison. Kruger bunted last night successfully. I agree it was dumb today, but to say _____ never bunts, is dumb. Its college baseball, and Kruger isn't Mark McGwire.

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If we have 1 second left we don't call a play for Gavin to shoot a 3. It's about the play call!!!!! Not random, a coach's CALL!

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Solid rebuttal. So Cohen will be fired? Go on the record...your post wasn't ****ing stupid?... Like I said we make post season and zero percent chance Cohen gets fired wo an arrest.... But just a 62 does, post wo any info just stupidity.

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Yup Cohen is getting fired. I've been on the record about that for awhile now. I predicted at the end of this season before the season started. It's possible I'm wrong about it being this year but it's definitely coming and definitely before we play our first game in the new stadium.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I'm totally on board with you. When you don't bunt you are essentially saying I can get 2 hits before I make 3 outs to score a run. When you bunt you are asking for just one hit to score the run before you make the 3rd out. And those odds are good IF one run is really meaningful. Yesterday one run WAS meaningful, today it wasn't. It disturbs me that our head coach can't seem to differentiate the 2 different situations.

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When you bunt one man over your odds of scoring drop from 49% to 47%. Any disagreement like you are exhibiting here is just saying **** math and logic.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Yup Cohen is getting fired. I've been on the record about that for awhile now. I predicted at the end of this season before the season started. It's possible I'm wrong about it being this year but it's definitely coming and definitely before we play our first game in the new stadium.

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Lulz

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Originally Posted by Dawg62

When you bunt one man over your odds of scoring drop from 49% to 47%. Any disagreement like you are exhibiting here is just saying **** math and logic.

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I wonder what the odds are you'll get a hit in an inning when you give away an out and the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going in the 6th? That's why you don't bunt yesterday.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Lulz

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Rick Ray was laughing too

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I wonder what the odds are you'll get a hit in an inning when you give away an out and the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going in the 6th? That's why you don't bunt yesterday.

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Exactly. "Oh you're already dealing (and getting wild) lets help you with a free out!"

Myth: "Manufacturing" through bunting is required when your team is struggling at the plate
Fact: Bunting hurts but it hurts bad hitting teams more.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Yup Cohen is getting fired. I've been on the record about that for awhile now. I predicted at the end of this season before the season started. It's possible I'm wrong about it being this year but it's definitely coming and definitely before we play our first game in the new stadium.

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You predicted it at the end of this season before the season started? Huh??? And yea it's possible you are wrong. 90% possible. Which is about right.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

You type like a junior high girl just receiving her first period. You is spelled by hitting the y the o and the u consecutively to form the word "you". Replacing "you" with "u" is embarrassing yourself grandpa. Please sit back down in your retirement present your airplane hangar wife bought you.

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I would say U R my little bitch but there R way more saying U R there bitch! Dude U do have the little man disease bad!

Now go kiss UR little boyfriend and say good night!

If you think Cohen is bad- Bianco had Dishon sac bunt when he was DOWN BY FOUR and the last two times I've seen LSU play they bunted in the second inning.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

I'm totally on board with you. When you don't bunt you are essentially saying I can get 2 hits before I make 3 outs to score a run. When you bunt you are asking for just one hit to score the run before you make the 3rd out. And those odds are good IF one run is really meaningful. Yesterday one run WAS meaningful, today it wasn't. It disturbs me that our head coach can't seem to differentiate the 2 different situations.

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But the inning of the game should also play into this. If I remember this happened in sixth inning last night. I personally think it's too early and didn't agree with it but didn't have a huge problem with it. Now if it's the 8th or maybe even the 7th I'm all for it.

A now four page thread on bunting and our offense being bad. In a game where we allowed 11 runs and scored 8 not to mention having a home run stolen. Predictable.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If you think Cohen is bad- Bianco had Dishon sac bunt when he was DOWN BY FOUR and the last two times I've seen LSU play they bunted in the second inning.

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Adding two retards into the mix doesn't make the mixture any smarter. I figured the head bunt defender would show up at some point.

Defending the bunt since 2011: Todd4Bunts

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I wonder what the odds are you'll get a hit in an inning when you give away an out and the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going in the 6th? That's why you don't bunt yesterday.

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Based on the hitters batting average- I'd guess somewhere 30-35% for most of our players.

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Rick Ray was laughing too

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Clearly comparable situations. Nice logic.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

A now four page thread on bunting and our offense being bad. In a game where we allowed 11 runs and scored 8 not to mention having a home run stolen. Predictable.

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Same thing different season I see. Cohen can't pitch it for them. Cohen CALLS the bunts.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

You predicted it at the end of this season before the season started? Huh??? And yea it's possible you are wrong. 90% possible. Which is about right.

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Before this season started I made the prediction that Cohen would be fired at the end of this season. Is it really that difficult for you to understand?