Explain to me the advantage Vandy has in recruiting

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03-20-2016, 01:59 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

If your son makes over a 26 on his ACT, I believe he gets in-state tuition at MSU

26 and above gets your out of state tuition waved. Did for me. Entire time I was at MSU I got my oos waived. Saved a lot of money. Thanks MSU!!
03-20-2016, 02:26 PM
Joe Schmedlap

If your son isn't in the top 8-10% of his high school class in Texas, then he isn't getting into TAMU or UT as a freshman. As an alumnus, 50% of the out of state tuition at Mississippi State University will be waived for your son. To keep that waiver/scholarship, he just needs to maintain a 3.0 GPA. With an ACT of around 25, the other half of out of state tuition is waived. So by birthright alone, your son can attend State for half the amount the typical out of state student pays for tuition. Look at those numbers closely as he heads into his senior year. State is actually a more than decent bargain. Make a mediocre ACT and it will be cheaper than Texas Tech and just about every other comprehensive public 4 year university in the state of Texas to include mid tier schools such as SFA and Texas State. And if one cannot gain entrance in UT Austin or TAMU, then you can choose Baylor, TCU, SMU etc with their $55,000 per year true cost of attendance. Contact a recruiter in your area or alumni chapter officer if there is one in your area. Sorry to get off the beaten path concerning the original topic if this thread, but I'd love to help a fellow alumnus out with sending a child to State.

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

This is one of the reasons it is getting where the economics to go to a private school is more advantageous than going to a public university, especially for out of state students. I have three sons, one currently a junior at a top 10 ranked public high school in TX. He wants to go to MSU. The out of state tuition at MSU is currently over $18K per year at MSU (just tuition), and I believe this is the cheapest out of state tuition in the SEC. However, at private schools the in state and out of state tuition is the same generally, and they give more financial aid, which makes the net cost for the out of state student less than at the public schools. My son is not in the top 25% of his class, and we"make too much, so MSU is not giving anything to him. Nevermind I have given MSU nearly $75K over my sons' life.
03-20-2016, 07:24 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by Joe Schmedlap

If your son isn't in the top 8-10% of his high school class in Texas, then he isn't getting into TAMU or UT as a freshman. As an alumnus, 50% of the out of state tuition at Mississippi State University will be waived for your son. To keep that waiver/scholarship, he just needs to maintain a 3.0 GPA. With an ACT of around 25, the other half of out of state tuition is waived. So by birthright alone, your son can attend State for half the amount the typical out of state student pays for tuition. Look at those numbers closely as he heads into his senior year. State is actually a more than decent bargain. Make a mediocre ACT and it will be cheaper than Texas Tech and just about every other comprehensive public 4 year university in the state of Texas to include mid tier schools such as SFA and Texas State. And if one cannot gain entrance in UT Austin or TAMU, then you can choose Baylor, TCU, SMU etc with their $55,000 per year true cost of attendance. Contact a recruiter in your area or alumni chapter officer if there is one in your area. Sorry to get off the beaten path concerning the original topic if this thread, but I'd love to help a fellow alumnus out with sending a child to State.

Thanks for all the information. We will be going to one of the visiting weekends at MSU, and have contacts there.
03-21-2016, 10:44 AM
jumbo

It sure as hell isn't their stadium/fan base. I was there Saturday and I've been to little league games that were a better environment
03-21-2016, 10:49 AM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by jumbo

It sure as hell isn't their stadium/fan base. I was there Saturday and I've been to little league games that were a better environment

No shit. Imagine if MSU won a national championship then got to the Finals again the next year. There wouldn't be a seat in the house for the SWAC midweek games in 30 degree weather.
03-21-2016, 12:44 PM
Out of Bounds

The coolest town in the South w/an NFL team and some of the best music in the world.
World class education & alumni network
Food scene has exploded
Beautiful women everywhere

The sport is driven by travel ball & many parents either have $$ or are smart enough to know the advantages a Vandy ed has on the street.
That is the perfect recipe for college baseball recruiting. BIG adv over MSU & other schools.
03-21-2016, 01:09 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Out of Bounds

The coolest town in the South w/an NFL team and some of the best music in the world.
World class education & alumni network
Food scene has exploded
Beautiful women everywhere

The sport is driven by travel ball & many parents either have $$ or are smart enough to know the advantages a Vandy ed has on the street.
That is the perfect recipe for college baseball recruiting. BIG adv over MSU & other schools.

And Vandy can offer a 100% scholarship when MSU and others can only offer 50 or 60%. That's what matters most.
03-21-2016, 01:26 PM
Political Hack

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Originally Posted by Out of Bounds

The coolest town in the South w/an NFL team and some of the best music in the world.
World class education & alumni network
Food scene has exploded
Beautiful women everywhere

The sport is driven by travel ball & many parents either have $$ or are smart enough to know the advantages a Vandy ed has on the street.
That is the perfect recipe for college baseball recruiting. BIG adv over MSU & other schools.

Yep. I'd send my kid there without hesitation. Hell, I may move with him.
03-21-2016, 01:35 PM
SouthMsDawg

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Originally Posted by Goat from MSU

Tennessee has the Hope Scholarship ,any kid who gets 21 or higher on ACT gets 4000 a year to any school in the state.

Why doesn't Mississippi do something like this? I know kids at Community Colleges get a little bit for 20+ ACT but 4 years public universities should as well.
03-21-2016, 01:38 PM
SouthMsDawg

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Originally Posted by Out of Bounds

The coolest town in the South w/an NFL team and some of the best music in the world.
World class education & alumni network
Food scene has exploded
Beautiful women everywhere

The sport is driven by travel ball & many parents either have $$ or are smart enough to know the advantages a Vandy ed has on the street.
That is the perfect recipe for college baseball recruiting. BIG adv over MSU & other schools.

So is other words, Vandy Baseball is Y'all Lifestyle approved
03-21-2016, 02:10 PM
jumbo

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Originally Posted by SouthMsDawg

Why doesn't Mississippi do something like this? I know kids at Community Colleges get a little bit for 20+ ACT but 4 years public universities should as well.

Mississippi doesn't have a lottery
03-21-2016, 04:25 PM
Maroonandwhite

Among the other added benefits listed for Vandy, how about 3 conference championships since 2004, a consistently ranked program that made the post season every year but once since 2004, 2 consecutive CWS NC series and 1 championship?

I love MSU baseball and will always. But let's face it, they have been far more successful.
03-21-2016, 05:09 PM
jumbo

Because of their scholarship advantages
03-21-2016, 05:12 PM
blacklistedbully

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Originally Posted by Maroonandwhite

Among the other added benefits listed for Vandy, how about 3 conference championships since 2004, a consistently ranked program that made the post season every year but once since 2004, 2 consecutive CWS NC series and 1 championship?

I love MSU baseball and will always. But let's face it, they have been far more successful.

Total CWS appearances - MSU 9, Vandy 3
Total NC series appearances - MSU 1, Vandy 2
SEC Regular Season Titles - MSU 10, Vandy 6
SEC Tourney Titles - MSU 7, Vandy 2

Vandy has been more successful very recently, but it also corresponds with them getting the HUGE recruiting advantage they now enjoy, since baseball scholarships were reduced. We are no longer playing on anything resembling a level playing field.

Historically we are a much better program. If the rules stay the way they are, that will probably eventually change.
03-21-2016, 05:23 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by Maroonandwhite

Among the other added benefits listed for Vandy, how about 3 conference championships since 2004, a consistently ranked program that made the post season every year but once since 2004, 2 consecutive CWS NC series and 1 championship?

I love MSU baseball and will always. But let's face it, they have been far more successful.

Right now, yes. But not when Corbin took over. We are talking about HOW they built this, not the results. We can obviously see that, genius.
03-21-2016, 05:24 PM
Taog Redloh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Out of Bounds

The coolest town in the South w/an NFL team and some of the best music in the world.
World class education & alumni network
Food scene has exploded
Beautiful women everywhere

The sport is driven by travel ball & many parents either have $$ or are smart enough to know the advantages a Vandy ed has on the street.
That is the perfect recipe for college baseball recruiting. BIG adv over MSU & other schools.

Then why didn't they do that before now?

The answer is the scholarships. Corbin exploited it, when nobody else there cared enough to even try. All that stuff you listed is secondary.
03-21-2016, 05:46 PM
Maroonandwhite

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

Right now, yes. But not when Corbin took over. We are talking about HOW they built this, not the results. We can obviously see that, genius.

Sorry, I thought the other facts had already been listed. They obviously had a great academic reputation, scholarship money, and subsequently made a great coaching hire. And for the past 11 years built a successful program on that. What did Butler or Gonzaga basketball have before hiring their coaches? Probably not the best comparison; but, the best I could do on the spot. That was my point. Didn't mean to come across the wrong way.
03-21-2016, 05:51 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Maroonandwhite

Sorry, I thought the other facts had already been listed. They obviously had a great academic reputation, scholarship money, and subsequently made a great coaching hire. And for the past 11 years built a successful program on that. What did Butler or Gonzaga basketball have before hiring their coaches? Probably not the best comparison; but, the best I could do on the spot. That was my point. Didn't mean to come across the wrong way.

Vandy built the program by having more scholarship money than any other SEC school.

Duke's baseball program has all the things that Vandy's does, but the scholarships. Cool area, local talent, ACC, beautiful women, and a bigger brand name than Vandy.

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