Who was the second bama signee that olemiss paid

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

It isn't a court of law. The NCAA is kind of screw since they don't have subpoena power but on the other hand the NCAA can pretty much do what they want. Ole Miss is a member of the NCAA and is subject to their will and rules. They can lawyer up all they want and they might be able to get a court to intervene. Chance are they will have trouble finding a judge who is willing to tie up his court. It's not a legal issue. I guess it could become a civil if Ole Miss sues.

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We went to court and won in 1975, with the court reinstating our player. But the NCAA didn't give a damn, ultimately forcing us to forfeit all wins of games in which the aforementioned player participated.

Stay tuned for the next episode of "As The Grove Burns" :cool:

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

Doesn't matter who they think turned them in, they will do everything they can, including lie, bribe, pay people to offer false testimony, etc to bring us down because they can't afford to fall too far behind us. It's both an ego thing and a realization that if they get too far behind us in-state, they will be screwed for a very, very long time.

It's hard to consider oneself superior if one is consistently losing to one's in-state rival. Even if they suck compared to out-of-state programs, they have to believe they can at least make an argument for in-state superiority. Whether it be by making themselves better by cheating on another level, or by doing their best to bring us down, they will do whatever is necessary (often both).

If the NCAA limits their ability to cheat, they will simply put more resources toward bringing us down as well. Going after Bama isn't going to accomplish squat for them. Going after us is the only thing they can do to salvage some pride and hang onto a future in football. If their out-of-state spending spree is cut off, the only hope they have is to succeed in-state, and they will find that very difficult if they go down hard and we don't.

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It's easier to cheat in state since there are more boosters here willing to give mamma or daddy a nice new job.

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Originally Posted by BrokerDawg

Stay tuned for the next episode of "As The Grove Burns" :cool:

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The Elite Dawgs 'house band' could cover this classic in honor of the occasion. I'll volunteer to play drums, but someone else will have to sing**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

I think the bigger questions the bears better concern themselves with is whether or not the NCAA can put enough evidence together to gain the interest of the Feds. If the sums of money we've heard is actually true, what we really have here is potentially a good ole racketeering case. The use of charities and other entities to funnel money. Financial structuring (i.e. the purposeful manipulation of cash withdrawals to avoid detection and/or reporting. Income tax fraud (failure to report) Gift and estate transfer tax fraud, Pell grant fraud, etc. While giving money is an NCAA rules violation, it is not crime in and of itself. However, giving money over certain amounts and failing to report it definitely is illegal.

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Originally Posted by BrokerDawg

I think the bigger questions the bears better concern themselves with is whether or not the NCAA can put enough evidence together to gain the interest of the Feds. If the sums of money we've heard is actually true, what we really have here is potentially a good ole racketeering case. The use of charities and other entities to funnel money. Financial structuring (i.e. the purposeful manipulation of cash withdrawals to avoid detection and/or reporting. Income tax fraud (failure to report) Gift and estate transfer tax fraud, Pell grant fraud, etc. While giving money is an NCAA rules violation, it is not crime in and of itself. However, giving money over certain amounts and failing to report it definitely is illegal.

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RICO, baby!!

I'd love to see Freeze and B-Dork frog marched through campus by FBI and Treasury agents.

If there's any semblance of truth about pell grant manipulation it could get bad for the entire university. At this point, the IHL in MS better be six feet up Dixie's rear making sure federal accreditation issues don't somehow slip into this magnificent chit show. Also, if kids were ineligible and receiving federal funds through academic fraud, then that could really open pandora's box. They'd better pray like hell this was isolated and that the kids who would've otherwise been ineligible didn't get federal funds based on their academic qualifications.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

If there's any semblance of truth about pell grant manipulation it could get bad for the entire university. At this point, the IHL in MS better be six feet up Dixie's rear making sure federal accreditation issues don't somehow slip into this magnificent chit show. Also, if kids were ineligible and receiving federal funds through academic fraud, then that could really open pandora's box. They'd better pray like hell this was isolated and that the kids who would've otherwise been ineligible didn't get federal funds based on their academic qualifications.

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Squeal like a pig.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

If there's any semblance of truth about pell grant manipulation it could get bad for the entire university. At this point, the IHL in MS better be six feet up Dixie's rear making sure federal accreditation issues don't somehow slip into this magnificent chit show. Also, if kids were ineligible and receiving federal funds through academic fraud, then that could really open pandora's box. They'd better pray like hell this was isolated and that the kids who would've otherwise been ineligible didn't get federal funds based on their academic qualifications.

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Surely as crazy as they are, they don't actually have people willing to risk their corn hole in federal prison just to send some money to recruits.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Surely as crazy as they are, they don't actually have people willing to risk their corn hole in federal prison just to send some money to recruits.

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C'mon 85 we're dealing with some brainwashed cult behavior here. Of course the true believers are willing to do ANYTHING. Just look at XenaReb.

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Surely as crazy as they are, they don't actually have people willing to risk their corn hole in federal prison just to send some money to recruits.

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Corn Hole Before Prison
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Corn Hole After Prison

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

Corn Hole Before Prison
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Corn Hole After Prison

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They should add "orifice"
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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Surely as crazy as they are, they don't actually have people willing to risk their corn hole in federal prison just to send some money to recruits.

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As much as they worship recruits, I wouldn't put anything past them.

UNC went to great lengths to wave off their accrediting body. Fired profs, admin folks and anything else connected to their academic fraud. Those actions were done to ward of losing their academic accreditation even after the NCAA declared that false course was an inducement (laughing). The NCAA has stuck to their guns thus far that UNM has committed academic fraud. Even having their credentials put on probation would hurt their standing. They need to tread lightly on this or athletic programs will be the least of their concerns. Auburn began to seriously push their old power brokers out ASAP when they narrowly avoided a similar fate with an Academic review of some kind. That was the straw that got the younger alum to tell Lowder he would not be re-elected.

Things could get really interesting.