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Meh this is a stronger statement. I could read between the lines in what he was saying before and knew they were hiding something. I don't get that feeling now. Yes the allegations are more serious then they ever let on but I don't beleive he is lying about the investigation being concluded and no forthcoming letter. Like I said. That's just my read on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
If Bo Scarbough is not included in the NOA received on Jan 22, then something is fishy with the idea that this is over. 2 possibilities. Bo didn't receive payment from UNM, which is against what every source has been saying. Or they are doing all of their investigations outside of UNM campus. The NCAA can do that without notifying them with a NOI. The other strange part is the definite statement that the investigation is over. That leads you to believe that any additional infractions will have to be under a second investigation not just an added to the first.
He didn't answer questions, he didn't release the NOA, he didn't answer anything. They're still dodging and evading, they're trying to buy time cuz they're scared. This ain't that hard to figure out. It's typical guilty behavior.
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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
C34, you got any inside info that refutes what Bjork is saying or shows that it is spin? Genuinely curious here.
I know Rosebowl said that it would be an addendum, other sources have said investigation ongoing. Just interesting that a man who could leave the school and have his morality mostly in check is going to bat for them (if it is a lie). That would have to be career suicide.
I just don't believe the NCAA gives the investigated school a step by step progress report on what has been found during the investigation. That just doesn't make any sense what Bjork says, about they knew what was coming from the NCAA. If that is the case, then the NCAA Investigators need to take or retake Investigating 101.
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
The NCAA 100% knows about Scarborough- he has already sat out games. If he is in the initial NOA, then maybe that is all there is to it. If not, then there has to be more. We will know eventually. That is the beauty of all this- it will eventually come to light one way or the other.
Bjork did not say the NCAA told him there was no 2nd letter coming. This is what he actually said:
How the NCAA enforcement process works is that Ole Miss? counsel works alongside the NCAA investigator, Bjork said ? another reason why he believes that a second letter is not coming, since Ole Miss has not been notified and ?the same thing would be expected.?
That is A LOT different than the NCAA saying there isn't one coming.
I kind of read it like this:
"The NCAA has told Ole Miss its three-plus year investigation into the school's athletic program is complete for women's basketball and track, Ole Miss' athletic director said Wednesday.
Ross Bjork also said that the school has not received (and doesn't expect to receive) a rumored "second letter" concerning more NCAA violations in women's basketball and track, has not been charged with lack of institutional control yet and that football coach Hugh Freeze was not named by the NCAA in any wrongdoing in women's basketball and track."
Obviously not coach but let me offer you this. The article is not so much misdirection for detractors as it is for his own fan base. I promise you that his phone has been lit up like the 4th of July since Finebaum. A major news group is potentially loading up for a Bear hunt and the natives are getting squeamish.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
A breaking CL story at 8:30 at night - after Finebaum? No real answers. Nothing he can be held to account for but nothing that truly refutes the rumor mill. This message is to calm his masses.
Enjoy all this, this is what your opponent's misery looks like.
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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
It's not over.
Bingo! Winner!Quote:
Originally Posted by blacklistedbully
Oh I don't doubt that it may very well all be deflection (my initial reaction withstanding..), but as I said the man better be prepared for a life outside of athletics. Nobody will touch him if he is proven a liar through all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgowar
And if he doesn't protect UNM till the day he dies , he has no future there. He has to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Bjork trying to put out fires after finebaum today. Who does he go to? The only media still believing his crap, the cl. This was all spin! He answered NOTHING!
Another thought, the damage is already done and a few more lies he tells ain't gonna make it any worse.
People forgot when Bjork said "it's over" back when the first whispers of the investigation cropped up years ago -- while most took him at his word -- yet the NCAA "did not comment on ongoing investigations"?
He has no choice but to go all in right now, it's why he is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Secondly, they said the same about Marv Albert.
Release the NOA - simple solution
He doesn't have to. Either way, it's bad for his career. I'll grant that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgowar
Screw you for putting that hideous image of Marv back in my skull. Aaaaaaaaaa!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
Headlines say it's over. But read further and you will see. "another reason why he believes that a second letter is not coming, since Ole Miss has not been notified and ?the same thing would be expected.?Quote:
Originally Posted by vv83
Just like Freeze and his under my control. Bjork believes this to be over......Don't trust those 17ers.
The first paragraph seems to be cut and dried:
"The NCAA has told Ole Miss its three-plus year investigation into the school's athletic program is complete, Ole Miss' athletic director said Wednesday."
I guess Bjork could later claim he was mis-quoted, but either it really is over or he is ALL IN.
Even if they won't release the NOA, why no comment on the actual number of violations and the breakdown in each sport. There is nothing protected by privacy in that at all. 99% of all schools at least give out that information when asked about NOA. Looking so forward to sharing info but won't share even the basic most general information that has nothing to do with privacy. Hiding something so general.
Bottom line is that there are very well connected people (some with MSU ties but others without MSU ties as well) saying with 100% certainty that the NCAA has been interviewing 2016 UM recruits in the past few weeks. Between that and Scarborough... Something doesn't add up about this.
They conducted several interviews recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero
This is the same line that was spewed after Tunsil's final suspension was announced- "Tunsil has gotten his suspension and that is the end of it with the NCAA."Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
well are you not at liberty to say what you know?? because that post isnt convincing me or anyone else with any senseQuote:
Originally Posted by C222
It adds up to they're lying again lolQuote:
Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero
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Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
He didn't say which program it was. If it was the football program, the women's basketball program or the track program? I still think he is using a lawyered script and they are carefully playing with the way they use words.
It's amazing how much has been forgotten. A timeline sticky with his statements alone would be pretty telling.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
It's over when the mother ****ing NCAA says it's over.. . Until then nothings over...
?We can?t wait to reveal all this,? Bjork said. ?We?re ready to tell that story. We?re looking forward to the day to when we can tell this story and put it out there and be transparent beyond what we?ve already done... We?re welcoming that day to tell our story."
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Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
The investigation is over if they've gotten the NOA. There's just no guarantee that there's not another ongoing or recently concluded investigation. Also, if the timeline I was told for a possible 2nd NOA is correct of 6-8 weeks, you'd think that investigation would pretty much have to be over as well. At this point they'd be compiling the allegations, betting their findings, and determining what level the additional allegations constitute.Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
It's not over guys!
There is something in that NOA that they very much do not want to get out. Otherwise release it and stop the drip, drip, drip.
Either that or they were trying to make it look worse than it actually is so that they can really spin it positively when it comes out. They could do that as long as their compliant media (to rebut it) and MSU sites ( to build up the negative) were the only ones interested. When the national media got a hold of it they lost control. The stories are starting to turn nasty. Look for ESPN to come out with another damage control article soon I bet. One thing is for sure, one way or another it's going to come out eventually. I hope it drags out for a while longer now. There is some damage being done now, real damage.
Ya know when Ross said they were transparent, I think I may have misunderstood. On second thought they are completely transparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This was my favorite quote: "There’s facts that are in there that still need to be developed in some situations". Dafuq does that mean?
Facts are facts and don't need to be "developed"...unless your facts are different types of facts that everyone else's facts.