He is a match-up nightmare in the slot for safeties and LB's. He will likely be a 3rd round pick and make lots of money next year instead of playing SEC football. From there- its on him to work on his craftQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
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He is a match-up nightmare in the slot for safeties and LB's. He will likely be a 3rd round pick and make lots of money next year instead of playing SEC football. From there- its on him to work on his craftQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
If the combine (speed) is gonna kill bear, what would coming back do to change it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Good point, probably not much.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And what 61 doesnt understand- is that these guys have been timed by various scouts already at practice during pro days and such. They have a good idea already of what these guys can do- thats why your better mock drafts are able to make projections on these guys.
Mullen and MSU developed these guys. They would not have the option to go pro anywhere else just about. They need to understand this and pay it back to Mullen and MSU by staying their senior years. We finally get to the point of the pay off for signing 3* nobodies and taking the time and effort to develop them into NFL talents and they just peace out on us before paying back. **** that!! Bear Wilson you need to stay your senior year. You OWE it to Mullen and MSU. Auburn or Vanderbilt gonna have you good enough to leave your junior year? Absolutely no chance in hell.
I think Bear needs to put on 20 lbs and have Mullen feature him as a WR/TE hybrid. Line him up all over the field. That is where Bear's future is at. He is already an NFL blocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
This is the nature of the beast. No need to take it personally and get upset about it. Excited to see who steps up next. We need Donald Gray to start getting more involved and have AJ Brown step in day 1.
WowQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
This exactly was the assessment and Mullen told him he would be a 4th rounder this year and another year and improvement on the above would get him to a second round lick or higher. Kids or not, they will be taken care of for another year and the money would be much greater.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaDawg
With that said, I hope he improves fast and has a great career.
I hate to see Bear leave, but to say it's "a little money" is being misleading. The NFL minimum is $420,000 for making the 53-man roster and $107,000 for the practice squad. If he can make that, great for him. Could he make more if he stays for a year? Maybe. But if he needs work, why not go and get paid to do it. Get coached every day. All year.
I'd love to keep him but having guys in the pros helps us.
Nobody else in college football has Bear able to go pro after his junior year but Mullen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
More than he would being a coach. Or any other job out of school.
Im not taking it personally but I am upset about it. I was upset at JRob too. Without Mullen featuring these players in his offense they would have no shot in hell to leave early anywhere else. We can not afford to lose juniors when our entire recruiting strategy is to take the overlooked athletes and develop them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
This makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
61, you ever heard of Kelvin Benjamin?
Sigh. It's easy to compare apples to oranges. That statement doesn't assume anything. I stated what I believe as fact due to the information at hand. In my opinion he has to work a lot harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaDawg
Seriously. Some of the worst fans in the NCAA.
Good luck Bear. Make your money. Thanks for coming to State.
Yea he ran a 4.61. You think Bear gonna beat that time?Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Is he a 6th projection? Doubt it. Probably gonna be a 3rd. And his measurables and catching 60 more balls here ain't gonna change that. I hope he's higher drafted and makes millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaDawg
Bear is peacing out when he finally gets the chance to be the man on our offense. Pay it back time and he says nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg496
I'll be surprised if he's clearly worse. You have an opinion that Wilson is abnormally slow, and there is no evidence of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Good gosh man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
He is not going to improve his stock by four whole rounds by coming back next year. Maybe one round at most. Unless he's a 2nd or 3rd round pick now and could move up to the first next year, he's making the right decision. But I don't think he goes in Round 1 either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MafiaDawg
Boy what a genius thought....Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What? Mullen is the reason he has the option to leave right now. You disagree? Name me someone else that has him in this position? I would want to pay that back to my coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
This is dumb as shit. Nobody owes anybody anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Boy!!! You are a tool. Hell, Bear helped MSU get to #1 and Mullen get to 4M. Hey doesn't owe shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
You're losing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Bear put his body and his health on the line for 3 years to entertain us for free. He doesn't owe us anything. Congrats to him that he can go get a 6- or 7-figure salary to do it now.
And lots of football programs could have developed him to the point where he could go pro in 3 years -- probably 50 or more FBS programs. Are you seriously arguing that Dan Mullen is some kind of development savant that literally no one can equal?
Why yes. I seriously believe this is exactly what he is suggestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I think this is a better decision than Josh leaving. Plus we'll be fine at WR with AJ Brown, Fred Brown, and Fred Ross.
This is the most ridiculous thread ever..
Best of luck #1, Thank you for the last 3 years, now go work ur ass off and make ur millions..
Hello AJ Brown...
Donald Gray will take hat step next year...Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
WR position is and will be as good or better next year...
He pays it back y going to the League and balling out. So the next De'Runnya Wilson knows MS State is where they can come to be coached up to get in the NFL. Hopefully that will start with AJ Brown. It's a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
and GrayQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yall need to embrace the idea of cats leaving early... even if they aren't 1st rounders... it's a good sign...
hell, I wish they made every college player stay 4 years... Bammer would be nearly unbeatable...
Excellent post. From a guy whose team knows how to win championships. If we're going to be elite we need three year guys going to the NFL every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I don't know what the ideal number of three year guys is but it would be awesome if we had five a year leaving for the NFL.
Your players leaving early are 5*. Ours are 3*. We can not have our top juniors leaving if we ever want to beat Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
4 pages of d61 going full retard? Say it ain't so!1!**
You ain't gonna beat Bama with 3* players, period...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61