For all of our "I hate Black Uniforms" crowd...

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Selfish Comments like these and " we are maroon and white only" are the reason we were so god awful for so many years. We had a majority of selfish fans who weren't willing to unite and do whatever it took to help our football program. We had selfish fans and AD's who opposed late start times and wanted all day games so they could make it home before the sun went down. Some of you blue hairs think this has no impact on recruiting but it does. We have all been 18 years old and in high school. At that age you love night games and cool "different" events.

Who thinks it was just conincidence that during Dans first press conference he spoke about the fans having to buy in and unite for the program to be successful? Everyone else saw how our fan base was never truly United and they used it against us any chance they have.

Another telling item about our fan base and support is my current BDC ranking. I'm in my lower 30's. This is my 7th season as a member and I'm in the top 18% of donors. That's just f*cking pathetic for our fan base. No reason I should ever be that high and I don't have much expendable income.

If you want to be selfish and not wear black please burn your ticket and stay outside the stadium today.

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Hey Cadaver, note this post and the post that War Machine Dawg made above. This is why I replied to this thread. aGAIN, I don't care about the color of the damn uniforms, but my opinion is that it doesn't impact recruiting. But calling our fellow fans selfish or stupid because they don't agree is not productive. In fact, it's hypocritical and they're doing the very thing they are accusing others of doing. Traditions are important to some people. They mean something. I will wear a black shirt tonight, but I won't yell at the "blue hair" in front of me that chose to wear Maroon, because that's his right, and it's a right he's probably earned. It doesn't mean that he's stupid, selfish, or not pulling the rope in the right direction, or whatever.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

At the end of the day, if Someone doesn't want to wear black, fine. I don't care. I just don't get it. I simply posted this thread to let those people whining about blackouts know why we do them. Recruits love things like that, and many fans do too. But if they choose not to, it's their choice.

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Recruits notice fashion statements but not what fans are saying about coaches and other players. Gotcha.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Hey Cadaver, note this post and the post that War Machine Dawg made above. This is why I replied to this thread. aGAIN, I don't care about the color of the damn uniforms, but my opinion is that it doesn't impact recruiting. But calling our fellow fans selfish or stupid because they don't agree is not productive. In fact, it's hypocritical and they're doing the very thing they are accusing others of doing. Traditions are important to some people. They mean something. I will wear a black shirt tonight, but I won't yell at the "blue hair" in front of me that chose to wear Maroon, because that's his right, and it's a right he's probably earned.

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THIS!

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Originally Posted by godlluB

I hate black uniforms, I'm sick of MSU trying to dictate what color I'm supposed to wear every freaking game.

But, I'm wearing black tonight.

I just hope we cheer "MAROON, BLACK" instead of "MAROON, WHITE" pre-game. Seriously, If we're going to do this, let's fully f'ing embrace this $hit.

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Do u ever change clothes or wear the same ones everyday. So what is your CB handle?

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Hey Cadaver, note this post and the post that War Machine Dawg made above. This is why I replied to this thread. aGAIN, I don't care about the color of the damn uniforms, but my opinion is that it doesn't impact recruiting. But calling our fellow fans selfish or stupid because they don't agree is not productive. In fact, it's hypocritical and they're doing the very thing they are accusing others of doing. Traditions are important to some people. They mean something. I will wear a black shirt tonight, but I won't yell at the "blue hair" in front of me that chose to wear Maroon, because that's his right, and it's a right he's probably earned. It doesn't mean that he's stupid, selfish, or not pulling the rope in the right direction, or whatever.

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I agree that calling fans selfish or stupid is a bad move...that's why I didn't. I disagree about recruiting though..I think it helps.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Really now? So you would rather have empty seats than someone wearing maroon or white in the stadium? Interesting attitude.

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It's hilarious how you see and comprehend something completely different than the post reads. Are you on medication that impairs comprehension? Did you only read the last sentence? If so, your reply is warranted.

As usual, I will provide a 3rd grade summary

Anyone who does not do what is asked of them to help our program does not truly care about our program, so why bring your negative selfish attitude somewhere where we need positive influence? Everyone bitching about what color to wear, to any game for that matter, is selfish and holding us back. Until we stop bitching and being lazy as an entire fan base we will continue to be on the outside looking in.

Nebraska is dong the black uniforms today against Northwestern. They are losing.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Selfish Comments like these and " we are maroon and white only" are the reason we were so god awful for so many years. We had a majority of selfish fans who weren't willing to unite and do whatever it took to help our football program. We had selfish fans and AD's who opposed late start times and wanted all day games so they could make it home before the sun went down. Some of you blue hairs think this has no impact on recruiting but it does. We have all been 18 years old and in high school. At that age you love night games and cool "different" events.

Who thinks it was just conincidence that during Dans first press conference he spoke about the fans having to buy in and unite for the program to be successful? Everyone else saw how our fan base was never truly United and they used it against us any chance they have.

Another telling item about our fan base and support is my current BDC ranking. I'm in my lower 30's. This is my 7th season as a member and I'm in the top 18% of donors. That's just f*cking pathetic for our fan base. No reason I should ever be that high and I don't have much expendable income.

If you want to be selfish and not wear black please burn your ticket and stay outside the stadium today.

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You had me till that last short paragraph. Better maroon and white than a single empty seat.

"I'm sick of MSU trying to dictate what color I'm supposed to wear every freaking game."

That attitude right there. That's the problem. Get over yourself. No disrespect. I don't know you but wow..

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

It's hilarious how you see and comprehend something completely different than the post reads. Are you on medication that impairs comprehension? Did you only read the last sentence? If so, your reply is warranted.

As usual, I will provide a 3rd grade summary

Anyone who does not do what is asked of them to help our program does not truly care about our program, so why bring your negative selfish attitude somewhere where we need positive influence? Everyone botching about what color to wear, to shy game for that matter, is selfish and holding us back.

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You did say if you weren't wearing black to burn your tickets and stay out of the stadium. Are you now retracting that very sellfish statement?

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Nebraska is dong the black uniforms today against Northwestern. They are losing.

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And it has absolutely nothing to do with them wearing black. This argument/superstition is so tired. Put it to bed

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Nebraska is dong the black uniforms today against Northwestern. They are losing.

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Because that's what this thread is about.

And I bet it's the uniforms making them lose. You're the worst.

For the record I have worn what I was supposed to to ever game I have been to except in one circumstance. I wear white to day games when it is hot and sunny.

Don't worry. Liverpooldawg will get nice and drunk tonight and spam the main board with his passionate hate of TSUN. Lol

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Because that's what this thread is about.

And I bet it's the uniforms making them lose. You're the worst.

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I'll be in black at the game. :p

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Recruits notice fashion statements but not what fans are saying about coaches and other players. Gotcha.

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Hey Genius...what are our recruits talking about online? The jerseys and blackout, or what was said by some jackoff named after a soccer team on page 13 of an EliteDawg game thread?

Thanks for playing.

Lamicheal James, the former running back from Oregon specifically said one of the reason he didn't come to State was because of the uniforms.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

And it has absolutely nothing to do with them wearing black. This argument/superstition is so tired. Put it to bed

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No here's a post I can pimp!!

I think we pit the superstition to death to tonight.

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Originally Posted by mstatefan91

And it has absolutely nothing to do with them wearing black. This argument/superstition is so tired. Put it to bed

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If we win tonight I will. :D

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Hey Cadaver, note this post and the post that War Machine Dawg made above. This is why I replied to this thread. aGAIN, I don't care about the color of the damn uniforms, but my opinion is that it doesn't impact recruiting. But calling our fellow fans selfish or stupid because they don't agree is not productive. In fact, it's hypocritical and they're doing the very thing they are accusing others of doing. Traditions are important to some people. They mean something. I will wear a black shirt tonight, but I won't yell at the "blue hair" in front of me that chose to wear Maroon, because that's his right, and it's a right he's probably earned. It doesn't mean that he's stupid, selfish, or not pulling the rope in the right direction, or whatever.

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Please provide a different adjective for someone "doing what they personally want to do instead of doing what will positively impact our program, recruiting and image of the university overall"? If you can think of another descriptor please add it here.

Are you now whining to the mods because someone called you and others out for not being team players as fans? Please mark it down. And when I return home from the game tomorrow I'll posts the recruits tweets of how much they enjoyed the "blackout".

Some of you sound like the butt hurt bears when someone breaks their tailgate chandelier. It's time we all step up and do what it takes to help our program reach the next level of success, even if it requires doing something that we don't necessarily agree with.

ETA id wear orange, yellow, green, whatever if our football program, AD and university asked me to for a designated game because I care more about our program and our success than my personal feelings for a shirt color.

#BlackUnisMatter

Look great, feel great, play great.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Hey Genius...what are our recruits talking about online? The jerseys and blackout, or what was said by some jackoff named after a soccer team on page 13 of an EliteDawg game thread?

Thanks for playing.

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I really do get under your skin don't I? As I said, I'm already wearing my black shirt. I happen to disagree with you on most things, that doesn't mean I dislike you or want to call you names. There is an interesting dynamic in this thread. People are entitled to their opinions, even if you disagree with them. We would ALL do well to remember that.

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

#BlackUnisMatter

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Haha

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

#BlackUnisMatter

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Now that is funny!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I really do get under your skin don't I Sparky? As I said, I'm already wearing my black shirt. I happen to disagree with you on most things, that doesn't mean I dislike you or want to call you names. There is an interesting dynamic in this thread. People are entitled to their opinions, even if you disagree with them. We would ALL do well to remember that.

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You don't get under my skin. I just like good debate, but you jump in every thread and turn it into something it's not. Thus ruining the debate and throwing it into a different conversation. I would think if you really like this message board you would quit ruining threads with your constant twisting of people's words.

But no, I always love a good argument too. That's why I come here...debate, discuss, argue at times. You just tend to be the one I like arguing with. Take it as a compliment, gramps.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Please provide a different adjective for someone "doing what they personally want to do instead of doing what will positively impact our program, recruiting and image of the university overall"? If you can think of another descriptor please add it here.

Are you now whining to the mods because someone called you and others out for not being team players as fans? Please mark it down. And when I return home from the game tomorrow I'll posts the recruits tweets of how much they enjoyed the "blackout".

Some of you sound like the butt hurt bears when someone breaks their tailgate chandelier. It's time we all step up and do what it takes to help our program reach the next level of success, even if it requires doing something that we don't necessarily agree with.

ETA id wear orange, yellow, green, whatever if our football program, AD and university asked me to for a designated game because I care more about our program and our success than my personal feelings for a shirt color.

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I'm not whining to anyone. It sounds to me like you are out of Summer's Eve.

Guess what....stepping up and helping the program is much bigger than wearing a black shirt to the game. I give way more money than I can afford to this university, for much more than just football, for more than 20 years now. My measurement of true fandom has nothing to do with what I wear to the game. Your strawman argument supporting your opinion is a reach. I will be in the same seat I've been in every week. So, don't preach to me about not being a team player as a fan. You aren't being a team player by attacking anyone. I suggest you aim your passion at something that matters.

I bolded the last sentence because I want you to understand your hypocrisy. That statement also goes for those of you who want to run down a fellow fan because they don't want to wear black to a football game. People step up and do what it takes to help our program reach the next level of success every day, and they do so in much more important ways than the color of a shirt, and some of them won't wear black because they don't like it. Choose to accept it, even if you don't necessarily agree with it.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Those blue hairs built this university. They also contribute a hell of a lot of money. They are also AT THE GAME.

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Then I'm sure they have enough money to buy a black shirt.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You don't get under my skin. I just like good debate, but you jump in every thread and turn it into something it's not. Thus ruining the debate and throwing it into a different conversation. I would think if you really like this message board you would quit ruining threads with your constant twisting of people's words.

But no, I always love a good argument or debate. That's why I come here...debate, discuss, argue at times. You just tend to be the one I like arguing with. Take it as a compliment, gramps.

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I'm 51, not a Grandpa yet, I think he graduates before that happens. How exactly can one person turn a thread into something its not? If one person, or persons, can dictate what a thread is about this place wouldn't be much fun. I am not a fan of not wearing our colors and I don't subscribe to the notion that black is a neutral color. Ask USM, Vandy, Iowa, and a bunch of others about that. That being said I tolerate it and go along with it because it's what MSU wants. I don't have to like it or be quiet about that dislike. It's kind of like you bitching about Mullen. Our roles are reversed here. As for the superstition, I can only recall us winning one black out, a nail biter against La Tech I think it was. That being said the REAL reason that this superstition got started is who we always used to do it against. We always chose very good teams and that lead to losing nearly every game when we wore black. Hopefully that changes tonight and we can maybe bury that argument.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I'm not whining to anyone. It sounds to me like you are out of Summer's Eve.

Guess what....stepping up and helping the program is much bigger than wearing a black shirt to the game. I give way more money than I can afford to this university, for much more than just football, for more than 20 years now. My measurement of true fandom has nothing to do with what I wear to the game. Your strawman argument supporting your opinion is a reach. I will be in the same seat I've been in every week. So, don't preach to me about not being a team player as a fan. You aren't being a team player by attacking anyone. I suggest you aim your passion at something that matters.

I bolded the last sentence because I want you to understand your hypocrisy. That statement also goes for those of you who want to run down a fellow fan because they don't want to wear black to a football game. People step up and do what it takes to help our program reach the next level of success every day, and they do so in much more important ways than the color of a shirt, and some of them won't wear black because they don't like it. Choose to accept it, even if you don't necessarily agree with it.

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Great post.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You don't get under my skin. I just like good debate, but you jump in every thread and turn it into something it's not. Thus ruining the debate and throwing it into a different conversation. I would think if you really like this message board you would quit ruining threads with your constant twisting of people's words.

But no, I always love a good argument too. That's why I come here...debate, discuss, argue at times. You just tend to be the one I like arguing with. Take it as a compliment, gramps.

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This used to be cadaver and me in earlier years. I agree with cad that it's fun to have someone to argue with but over time as true Dawgs we all find common ground.

I'm wearing black tonite and no it does not bother me if another fan chooses not to, although I am sick of all this color coordinated crap. Get off my lawn!!! :cool:(rant over)

I wish I still had enough hair on top to be called a "Blue Hair". I have a 32 year old daughter and a 14 year old son(bleeds Maroon). My Superdawg Dad took me to my first game in 1964. I just did my morning grocery shopping and bought a new black t-shirt. My only other black tees were ZZ Top, Kiss, Ted Nugent, Whitesnake, Aerosmith, or Oakland Raiders. Just ordered my son the new #15 replica black jersey and I too think it is cool. (He now has three- maroon 14, white 15, and the black 15 on order, I have a #3 Jackie years jersey autographed by Dontae Walker, so it goes.). I consider myself very young at heart and love MSU. Maroon and white is what I prefer to wear depending on the weather. As the late Al Davis said, "Just Win Baby". Hail State. P.S., we better win. This black tee was $6.50!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Hey Genius...what are our recruits talking about online? The jerseys and blackout, or what was said by some jackoff named after a soccer team on page 13 of an EliteDawg game thread?

Thanks for playing.

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I just thought he was a Beatles fan. **

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I just like good debate, but you jump in every thread and turn it into something it's not. Thus ruining the debate and throwing it into a different conversation.

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Definitely agree with this. He argues like a woman.

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Originally Posted by godlluB

I hate black uniforms, I'm sick of MSU trying to dictate what color I'm supposed to wear every freaking game.

But, I'm wearing black tonight.

I just hope we cheer "MAROON, BLACK" instead of "MAROON, WHITE" pre-game. Seriously, If we're going to do this, let's fully f'ing embrace this $hit.

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Really not sure why this post is getting knocked. The guy hates the color coordination and hates not wearing our traditional colors.....but he still wears the requested color and recognizes the fact that by not embracing the color coordination, we look bush league. I fully respect this guy's approach.

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

Really not sure why this post is getting knocked. The guy hates the color coordination and hates not wearing our traditional colors.....but he still wears the requested color and recognizes the fact that by not embracing the color coordination, we look bush league. I fully respect this guy's approach.

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Because he is whining about it.. pretty simple

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

#BlackUnisMatter

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+1
I have no idea what happened to my post but I posted #blackcrowdsmatter earlier. Don't know where it went.

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

#BlackUnisMatter

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top ten post of the year!

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

+1
I have no idea what happened to my post but I posted #blackcrowdsmatter earlier. Don't know where it went.

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Different thread.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Go give the Bulldog Recruiting Twitter account a look, and you'll see exactly why we do "Blackouts". We have a ton of recruits coming to this game, and they're all saying stuff like "I can't wait to see that Blackout in Starkville tonight" and "Ready to see those black uniforms at HailState tonight", etc.

So if you want better players in your favorite Maroon and White...embrace the Blackout. It's one of the only ways us Average Joes can help a little bit in our program's recruiting efforts. Jerseys won't be THE reason they choose State....but seeing a united fan base decked out in the same color in an intimidating and awesome atmosphere, can't hurt.

Everybody pulling in the same direction. Hail State?

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I've been called the blue hair names since I am generally against black uniforsms. However, I have no problem with it as a special uniform once a year. Great post.