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Im usually first to say nothing will happen. But he met with head of football enforcement for three hours?! And knows of cash payments by the agents and the university and other violations.
If they skate on this even I will be very surprised. The NCAA, if nothing else, still takes amateur status seriously. And some other schools like USC will be expecting an SEC school to be treated just like them on this.
I bet the NCAA is feeling some heat from the big schools and conferences on this one.
Good bet if Step Daddy Dearest is throwing 'cash from agents' around then Tunsil will miss some football this year. There would have to be some serious evidence for Ole Miss to get in trouble. But no Tunsil will wreck their season. Like 5-7 type season if he's not available at all.
If freeze somehow ended up with a show-cause, I don't think I'd quit smiling for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Don't tell me it can't happen. Jim tressel at Ohio state, chip Kelly at Oregon, Bruce pearl at tenn... These are guys at programs more relevant than ole miss and got one. If only the liberal army would declare the term "ole miss" offensive, this would really get interesting
With the way past NCAA investigation's have gone, does Freeze play Tunsil?
Very good examples, 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I mean, shit, Bruce lied about having a BBQ at his house and making some extra phone calls, and he got nailed to the wall.
Who was the last school the NCAA seriously pursued and hammered on recruiting.....USC ? It just doesn`t seem to happen like it used to.
You think Facebook will give up all those private messages Chris Kiffin swapped with Tunsils girlfriend during his recruitment
pay off folks that could otherwise bury them. The Step Dad will have to prove his case and hope their's enough meat left on the bone to nail their asses to the wall. Again, color me skeptical but hey there's always a chance. I assume they'll be looking into ownership of the home too.
There's no evidence that shows Miller is a wife beater. The evidence shows Miller was beaten. If there had been evidence of Miller beating or even bruising ( by grasping her arms of restraining her), from Miller, Miller would have gone to jail. It would have been very easy for her to make claims of abuse when officers arrived on the scene. The eyewitness accounts said otherwise. Miller didn't leave the scene, Tunsil got the Hell out of there via his agent buddies, who pulled him off of Miller according to witnesses.
Hard to spin this otherwise.
Miller: Those agents are going to bring you down. You'll lose draft stock. Better lose them.
Tunsil: you ain't getting none anyway. Back off before I put you down.
This is how these things transpire. Tunsil got out of there to get a story together.
Does the NCAA work like the courts? Does the NCAA have to prove beyond a shadow of doubt? I thought they made allegations and then you had to prove otherwise. (I.e. Provide financial statements and such)Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
If you will remember from our dear friend Renardo - if the NCAA thinks you did something, you have to prove them wrong. They could easily say Tunsil is ineligible due to suspected violations until he provides the info they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The step daddy alleges proof of grade fixing, cash and other enticements for his recruitment, I assume he means by OM, and the $64,000 question of HOW they ended up in Oxfart from Florida. That is all on OM and is separate from the eligibility questions around Tunsil. Dealing with agents and accepting cash and gifts from them is only about Tunsil's eligibility. Two separate issues here.
They will burn!!
It took one guy getting pissed off to bring SMU down. That happened to be a player. Who is buying the popcorn!?!?!
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With all this going on, this would be the perfect time for TMZ and the NCAA to go after those recruiting emails that freeze requested
Who knows how much of this is true, but to me the biggest thing is falsified academic records and gifts during recruitment. That's on om directly, as opposed to gifts from agents.
Will also be interesting to see if om gets out in front of this and suspends him while the investigation is ongoing. That seems like the norm in these situations, in order to protect the school from further penalties, but I could be wrong.
Finally, I said it a week ago, this is why you don't come out immediately and say "we are proud of laremy for doing the right thing and protecting his family" when you admittedly don't know all the facts. PR 101.
Wasn't an OM alum tied to a high school academic scandal with a recruit who ended up not going to OM? Seem to remember that with either the 2013 or 2014 class.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Somewhere Xenareb is beginning to stretch.
It's crazy that the Rebels fans on the message boards are saying that they aren't worried about the agent stuff, but they are worried about the recruiting allegations. They know they sold the farm to buy Tunsil and they are sweating it a little, even if they are acting unconcerned about it.
Well this changes some things then. Lets just keep our fingers crossed that he actually has some proofQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Jovon Robinson maybe? Seems it was a Memphis kid anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
That's what that 3.2 was the other day in Madison.
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Originally Posted by fader2103
No. They do what they want and how they want it. Period.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They allow secret witnesses, make up the rules as they go, and have been proven corrupt...
They base their decisions and penalties based on how "cooperative" the program is...
However, since they lost their teeth (mostly over AU/Cam), they don't have the resources they once enjoyed...
True. But it does factor into credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Truth is, if the guy had a record of beating on women it would have been brought forth by now. He's pissed, and it could very well be that he's more ticked off about the OM machine dragging him through the mud, and the bullshit he's witnessed since living in Oxford than he is about some benefits he's not going to receive from being the step father of an NFL player.
Stepfathers get a bad label for many reasons. The evidence so far shows this: Tunsil ran his ass away from the scene of a crime. Miller stayed there to deal with the consequences. Witnesses say Miller took a beating. Miller would have gone to jail if there was ANY evidence or report of Tunsil's mom getting hurt.
The truth is apparent.
A poster on the Spirit claims that the NCAA was in town to discuss the ex track coach that just resigned. Unreal.
Is it too late for the Touhy's to adopt this poor child?***. I mean the already flew him to the Super Bowl to meet their other"child"!
knew the NCAA officials name? Riley Blevins seemed to believe it was true.
Haha...Quote:
Originally Posted by JDog13
I've got this on standby....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvMYPF-gnQU
I agree. I think we all know the ending to this. However, I bet the NCAA is getting tired of having to go to Oxford every few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
4 letters: N C A AQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Nah, they were in town for lunch with Katy Perry, McConaughey, Grisham and Eli at the Taylor's Grocery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog
one would think that if a step-dad was beating up your mom, you would never flee the scene and leave the abused alone with an abuser. If it is true that the step-father was beating on Tunsil's mom, what does that say about Tunsil fleeing the scene and leaving his mom alone with a man that had supposedly beat her minutes earlier.
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Originally Posted by Dawgcentral
Tunsil = 'roid rage***
No, EliteDawgs wag the dog. Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drugdog
For those thinking that nothing will happen because of CJ Johnson- here's the difference. ESPN and other multiple news outlets are picking up on this, and you have someone willing to rat out Ole Miss.
ESPN never picked up on CJ once. And that's only because people weren't willing to talk.
Now will they get the death penalty? No. But something will happen even if it's Tunsil being suspended- not to mention the potential collateral damage in recruiting from having a cloud hanging over them.
One thing - when we went through our waltz with the NCAA and TSUN there was no Twitter. There was no Facebook. Oh man, if they try to mess with the wrong kid's ego or wallet this could be entertaining. Penalties or not, this could be really fun watching it blow up big.
I think Tunsil is done.
I know MSU fans keep saying, "I don't think anything will happen", but I think something will. I mean, they questioned the stepdad for 3 hours...... What the hell do you talk about for three hours? I think it possible that he was showing them the evidence.
My guess is that the investigation stops there though. The NCAA will suspend Tunsil for the year, & not touch the rest of the Ole Miss mess. However, the last thing you want is the NCAA snooping around. Something tells me, they may be out to make an example out of someone.
Get ready. Ole Miss is going to do their best to find some way of getting Mississippi State in trouble, particularly if Tunsil has to miss any time over this. They will stage something to get MSU in trouble.
This is what I think will most likely happen. Unless there is a lot more to it than I'm thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg