I dont care how- but it better improve in 2016

Butch isn't that good. Not the pitching guru everybody thinks he is.

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Originally Posted by Smitty

My concern is that of getting away with mediocrity. With one exception we have been a very average program under Cohen. Hosting is laughed at most years. Let's say he brings in a bunch of all world talent like supposedly we have signed and 2 and 3 seeds them like he is used to doing. What then? 34 says make regional keep job. Well there's more to just making a regional and our numbers showing the vast advantage host and national seed teams have prove that.

We need to BE IN POSITION to sustain and achieve success every year rather than relying on the mythical "Cohen late season run"

Cohen will never maximize our win total. He will always meddle, bunt, **** with swings, etc no matter if he was managing State or the 1927 Yanks. I want someone who will get the most out of what we got. Mississippi State baseball's potential is unlimited.

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Everyone take cover. This is 100% true and I agree totally.

Who got the boot? Lovelady and Young?

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Butch isn't that good. Not the pitching guru everybody thinks he is.

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I totally agree, he has been around the SEC (3 teams), I think he he is ok but no guru.

Also, yes teams can be down but not rock bottom, I'd say OM is having a down year but they are having a good finish and probably will make the Ncaa tourney. We look "under" coached with fundamentals in defense, hitting, running the bases, and coaching management.

Lastly, I keep reading where we will be much improved next year, cough cough, of course we will we can't be any worse! But in saying that, what I see is the guys coming back will be gone then it looks to be rebuilding again. Why can't we just reload and recruit better, to many excuses about who gets drafted and doesn't get in school, find the diamonds in the rough like Dan The Man. I said it months ago, we won't win any series, I was wrong we won 1, I also said we want make the Sec tourney, I still don't see us beating TN next weekend 2 times. I also said this is one of the worse teams in history, it speaks for itself.

Quite making excuses please! Msu baseball should never be in this shape and I don't care about what we did in the past, it's what's happening now a complete meltdown.

I just do not see it getting any better next year. I think Cohen has gotten too arrogant as a coach and needs to step off of his high pedestal and rethink his coaching tactics. They worked when we actually had some serious arms, but the talent is not there like it was.

I think the Todd "nobody wants to win here more than Cohen, he really really wants it" quote is not as accurate as portrayed. It's still a job. From what I've seen this year he could be ready to move on.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

The biggest thing that concerns me about Cohen right now is me hearing shit about our guys skipping out on work outs and things like that. That's unacceptable and explains why I'm in better shape than half of them. It's also puzzling given Cohen's intensity.

If you suck, suck putting the work in to be the best you can. That's why I'm so pissed at our players. Honestly, I feel like if you have two competitors and one of them works out and does what they are supposed to and the other is skipping out on work outs, that can sometimes ultimately be the difference in winning or losing a game. That may sound cheesy, but the work outs are designed to maximize player performance. And when we can't quite get to a ball that goes in for a hit- maybe that missed flexibility work out made the difference there. At the very least I believe hard work is rewarded. And I would tell every one of those mother ****ers to their face that they are getting what they deserve. Including Cohen too.

In MLB, they have to work out- or they are going to lose their job to someone that will outwork them. And there are hundreds of players on AAA that would love to have a MLB job.

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This post makes me think of what I was thinking the other day about big Wes. If I were him I believe I would lose about 15 to 20 pounds, put on more mussel and try to increase my speed.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

To be elite, we have to get elite pitching. I loved Holder, Lindgren, and even Ross until he started to wear a skirt and play cheerleader- but we've got to have 2-3 Chris Stratton's to win championships. And we need them to be elite before their junior year. We've got to find a way to get the Ethan Small, Gray Fenter, Kale Breaux, etc. to come to school.

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Ross has been getting by with smoke and mirrors his whole career. This year regression finally caught up to him. It's pretty damn difficult to be a consistently dominant pitcher when you barely strike anyone out. He didn't turn into a *****, he was just bound to turn into a pumpkin.

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Originally Posted by ScottH

As of last Saturday night....

4MM or so pledged.
2MM or so in hand (included in the number above).
As everyone knows, need 20MM pledged to start.
Any fees for premium seating do not count toward the initial 20MM.
Current plan of start construction at conclusion of 2016 season.

Time to get to fundraising.

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They have broadcast the renderings to the world- and they have even shown them on TV during games. It's getting built

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

Here's an idea, lose the cute shirts, the stupid bench mob, and all the crap and get some tough nosed players.

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"Here's an idea, I don't know what to say about anything worthwhile so I'll just bitch about stuff that doesn't matter"

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Ive watched all of this shit I can watch this Spring. I'm done

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Welcome to 2 months ago for me.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

"Here's an idea, I don't know what to say about anything worthwhile so I'll just bitch about stuff that doesn't matter"

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Here's an idea mind your own damn business.

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Originally Posted by dawgs

"Here's an idea, I don't know what to say about anything worthwhile so I'll just bitch about stuff that doesn't matter"

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Ur an idiot. Imissjack is one of the most informed well liked posters on this site.

Yea, I'm sick of all the bullshit excuses too. I've been one of the biggest Cohen supporters this board has ever seen...but it's time for the excuses to stop and the winning to start.

Making a Regional next year in any capacity will keep Cohen his job more than likely, but with that new stadium on the way, and our new expectations with the CWS Finals trip, this sub .500 SEC record shit EVERY year has to stop. We are a better program than that, and we should demand better than that. Stop the excuses John, get your shit together and start winning at a high level. Or GTFO

Things needed to improve next year
-Proper strength and conditioning to maximize the talent....go pay LSUs strength coach a ton
-You can't have the above without proper nutrition...get someone that knows shit about eating right during offseason and during the season
-Ditch the Addidas bats; there's a reason they are one of the cheapest bats you can buy
-Go get the best damn hitting coach in the country
-this years butch reminds me of his tenure at Auburn
-finally-the intense mfing bastardized needs to show back up

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yea, I'm sick of all the bullshit excuses too. I've been one of the biggest Cohen supporters this board has ever seen...but it's time for the excuses to stop and the winning to start.

Making a Regional next year in any capacity will keep Cohen his job more than likely, but with that new stadium on the way, and our new expectations with the CWS Finals trip, this sub .500 SEC record shit EVERY year has to stop. We are a better program than that, and we should demand better than that. Stop the excuses John, get your shit together and start winning at a high level. Or GTFO

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+1

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

Ur an idiot. Imissjack is one of the most informed well liked posters on this site.

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Sorry but I just think bitching about the bench mob or beards or whatever is pretty much negligible, bitch about shit that matters like recruiting, coaching, lack of hitting/starting pitching, etc