Tookie can do better . No one from here will not transfer up there ,the place is a hell hole of a school. Plus alot of our players did not like Ray anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Tookie can do better . No one from here will not transfer up there ,the place is a hell hole of a school. Plus alot of our players did not like Ray anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
How do we know that Stansbury wants a another head coaching job. Your buddy Williams never got a another head coaching job except for the ABA. So who cares except you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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Originally Posted by Treemydawg
100% wrong. Being a head coach is not, by default, better than an assistance head coach. Not in prestiege, not in money, not in life. If that was the case, money would never be a factor in hiring. It is. If that's the case, then all assistant coaches would be tripping over themselves to take any head coaching job no matter where it is. Money is always an issue. You take somebody who is set up to pay bills that equal 45% of their income, then money will be a factor. If your bills equal 1 million per year, then you don't take a job that pays less than.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Yes, we could retain Zeigler and would in this case.
Second, you don't know the situation of Stansbury. He may have taken the position to be able to take over there. Maybe he took the position to get better stay in the game, to learn Texas, and wait for a job he wants.
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html Interesting: I watched Ray's press conference at SEMS , and their athletic director said in his opening statements that he talked to Stricklin, who gave high words on Rick Ray and that's part of the reason why he hired him. Maybe that's normal, but I was caught off guard
You know jack ****ing shit about that school and town. Cape Girardeau is a lovely town. Much better than Kosciousko or Starkville. They just suck at sports at SEMO. The party scene is just fine though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat from MSU
because he is begging and calling in every favor he can to try and get one. He did it for Auburn and Bama. He had Joe Dean do everything he could for him at Auburn and Gottfried for him at Bama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat from MSU
Sorry ,The high school my daughter goes too just took some of them up there to visit .The school is a overgrown JC. The town is nice though.Bet you would not send your kid there.Quote:
Originally Posted by missouridawg
Well there is one of his problems. Probably not the best of ideas to have a head coach previously fired at a school put in a good word for you to get the same job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Sure we all believe you ,hope your sources is not your head in the ass friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Not sure why this would be surprising. If Stricklin could operate in a vacuum I'm pretty confident Rick Ray would still be head coach at MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxedOutMaroon
Ask Shannondawg or Dawggeezer- they both know I'm right
I don't see them coming on here and backing you up. Shannon , Dawg where are you?? Sure just what I thought. You need to stick to football and baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
lol- they are old. Let them get their diapers changed. They will be around.
You're completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Don't get this constant ragging on Stans. It's ridiculous to denigrate Stans for not getting jobs that he's not even interested in. Regardless, he's still the best head coach we've ever had in basketball. He just is.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
He could have had the Northern Kentucky job if he wanted it. If he REALLy wants to be be a head coach, there won't be a shortage of mid-major opportunities. He just isn't getting any bites for high-majors and probably won't unless he goes and does well at a mid-major.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
All I know he was up for the job at Auburn until they decided to recontact the one they hired. Bama I don't know and don't give a shit about those assholes..
Apples to apples, I bet Stans is being paid more as an assoc head coach than Ray as a head coach.
Geezer is on a cruise in the pacific getting his batteries charged back up.
Close to triple.Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
Oh come on, I'm far from a stans defender, but it's obviously he hasn't pursued or shown any interest in coaching this level of basketball. Alabama hired a former NBA head coach, don't downplay it like they hired a nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You're a long time MSU supporter & for that I give you the utmost respect. I do have a question that I think I already know the answer to. With the Ben Howland hire is it safe to say that everybody is back on board with MSU Hoops that need to be on board?Quote:
Originally Posted by shannondawg
And it ain't even close...Quote:
Originally Posted by pilldawg
Not to put words in SD's mouth, but yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Yea I've heard that from some major guys everybody was back pulling in the same direction but wanted to get SD opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
I'm just yanking ya'lls chain some on the RR hire
Stands is in a tough position though and it sux for him. He has been breaking his neck trying to get a big job and just can't- and he refuses to take a lower mid-major job like Brady did. He will either stick it out the rest of his career as an addy like David Hobbs did after Bama fired him- or he will eventually see the writing on the wall and take a lower level job
I do wish ray the best. This is the kinda HC job he should have had all along to fine tune his style and get his feet wet, then if he had some good success, he would have become a target for a power conference job.
Yep, he dated the girl who is a 7-8 before the girl who is a 4. Fine for a baller, but too advanced for a beginner.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Now that's talking some shit saying Coach is relentless after all the shit I read on here about Ray the past 3 years. Pot calling kettle BLACK.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyQuid
Oh yeah, DAWG61, you are one to be saying anything about a color reference someone else posts on this board. You only see one color as good and the other as bad. SMH
What?! Where did I denigrate Stans?Quote:
Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg
The associate head coach at Kansas took the head job at Florida Gulf Coast a couple years ago. Again, if you can wait and get a better head job, then being an assistant at A&M is better than making the move to SEMS. But if you can't, then the head job is better.
But it's always about what head job you can get, at least for anyone trying to advance in their career.
Maybe I took it wrongly, but you said that the head coach of a mid major is superior to an assistant at a major conference. Maybe you weren't placing Ray over Stans there. Also, my post addresses the whole thread, not just your post. Some are creating this mythology that Stans is desperate for a HC position. I personally see Stans as the one sitting pretty is this mess we've made of our basketball program. I'm sure that many disagree with me on that. That's fine too.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Assistant at A&M is light years ahead of Head coach at directional Missouri . End of story.
Meh, I do think having extensive experience as a HC in a power conference is a huge factor. A guy with no HC experience is more likely to wanna get any HC experience on his resume, whereas a guy that had at least a moderately successful stint as a HC with a power conference program doesn't necessarily need that resume booster. Stans can make more money being an associate HC, recruit, and might land a low level power program gig in a few years. I could see him at tcu in a few years if he continues to work the Texas recruiting trail for a&m.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
What about an assistant job at Michigan state and VT?...Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
The Redhawks hired Ray after other finalists, Michigan State associate head coach Dwayne Stephens and Virginia Tech assistant coach Isaac Chew, reportedly dropped out of the running for the job.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...oach-rick-ray/
Virginia Tech assistant Isaac Chew and Michigan State assistant Dwayne Stephens were also finalists for the job.
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2184933.html
I take the dropping out as knowing they weren't gonna be hired
You and me both Coach. Especially ENDO hes Dead Weight in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I couldn't imagine anyone being against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Wrong -- SEMO beat writers acknowledge that Chew was offered and turned down the job to remain at VT.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
How often do assistants at decent major programs get decent head coaching jobs? Rarely ever.
How often do successful mid-major coaches get them?
I don't really see how someone can argue that being an assistant at a place like VT or Texas A&M is better, career-wise, than being a head coach just about anywhere. Again, unless you're simply happy finishing your career as an assistant or can potentially get a better job by waiting another year or two.
Why is it so wrong for someone to go after a job paying 2 mil?
Two sides to that coin. Would you take a 75% paycut to go to a job where no one has been successful? I wouldn't. I would wait on a better job or just stay where I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness